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Thread: Uh, this looks bad...

felipz
Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:15 pm
#131






wintersNight wrote:

lol talking to you is like bailing out water with a spoon




Why don't you answer my question ? I didn't ask who gets more harassed learn how to read, I asked what's the difference between a man getting harassed and a woman when they do.



[__Felous__]


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WinkerPeeper
Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:16 pm
#132






ThePwntR wrote:



i never said it wasn't a act of violence hahaha


That seems to imply that you aggree that it is infact an act of violence.



its your problem. not mine


That suggest that you condone it. What if a judge told you that if you were standing up for yourself in not getting harassed? Who's the fool now?






Let's be real. Verbal harassment of any kind is not violence. To call it such, devalues the impact of real sexual violence. Sexual verbal harassment, even the worst, may be wrong, hateful and, in many cases, destructive, but it is not violence.



Formerly Redyrd, MLS/MDEF/Heal 4XX4. Now L60 Shadowpriest.
ThePwntR
Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:29 pm
#133


How does saying, its your problem, not mine. make me condone sexual harshment? Condoning starts with not taking responsibility of your actions (including your inaction, evidence by: "it's your problem, not mine").



Let me break it down to you like this:


If someone broke into your house and stole everything......you call the police and they tell you "it's your problem , not mine"




OH AND WINKERPPEER : GO TELL YOUR 5 YEAR OLD CHILD THAT THEY ARE FAT, UGLY, STUPID, AND WORTHLESS FOR BEING ALIVE AND ASK YOURSELF IF THAT DOESN'T VIOLENTLY IMPACT THE MENTAL WELL BEING.



felipz
Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:32 pm
#134






ThePwntR wrote:


OH AND WINKERPPEER : GO TELL YOUR 5 YEAR OLD CHILD THAT THEY ARE FAT, UGLY, STUPID, AND WORTHLESS FOR BEING ALIVE AND ASK YOURSELF IF THAT DOESN'T VIOLENTLY IMPACT THE MENTAL WELL BEING.






THEPWNTR DUDZ U R LIEK A TOATL NUBZ ROFL WTFOWNT !



[__Felous__]


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Ameno
Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:36 pm
#135






ThePwntR wrote:


How does saying, its your problem, not mine. make me condone sexual harshment? Condoning starts with not taking responsibility of your actions (including your inaction, evidence by: "it's your problem, not mine").



Let me break it down to you like this:


If someone broke into your house and stole everything......you call the police and they tell you "it's your problem , not mine"




OH AND WINKERPPEER : GO TELL YOUR 5 YEAR OLD CHILD THAT THEY ARE FAT, UGLY, STUPID, AND WORTHLESS FOR BEING ALIVE AND ASK YOURSELF IF THAT DOESN'T VIOLENTLY IMPACT THE MENTAL WELL BEING.









well here's one for you, i'm not a law enforcement officer. There is nothing i can do about, what you let someone else do to you. you have to take those measures to protect yourself, just like i have to take mine to protect myself. And i could be wrong but the police do say "its your problem not mine", and tell you to call your insurance agency, yes, they will try and find that person and get your **edit** back, but if he sells it, the best you can do is press charges and make the f'ucker pay you. if you didn't have insurance on theft and what not THEN ITS YOUR PROBLEM and not theirs. **edit**ty eh.


FOr me to even condone these actions, would be for me to completely overlook it, and pretend like it didn't happen, which is clearly not the case. so you're just grasping at air, trying to twist worrds into something you can use. and you're failing, misearbly.






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ThePwntR
Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:48 am
#136

Ameno wrote:


oh and on a note, does it matter? unless this was about a hundred years ago then no, women have equal rights now. as much as they care to have anyways. if you can't handle someone **edit**ing with you, and you have so little self-esteem that you give a damn what someone thinks, you're a sad life form anyways.




That right there, says you condone that type of behavior & you even end the statement in a derogatory quip! PWNT!
WinkerPeeper
Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:50 am
#137






MsNiL wrote:





By the way, we're paying another price now: jedi isn't powerful anymore, it is horrible to roleplay a jedi toon where ALL the jedi have the same abilities (while even in the movies/books/comics some focused on ls, some on force powers etc), the real roleplayers (like N'Varra or Versattion Eclipse) will be even more sick than having to deal with jedi, since there will be more jedi than before.. cause a lot of the previous melee fans plan to respec to jedi, the only "true" melee profession left..


Getting rid of the BH terminal was worth that exchange. It really was. I am for a nice system that allows me to feel like I am a jedi exile, but the visibility system produced something very different from what it was intended to do.








This is why the vast amount on jedi on the board and in the game would have no truck with you as correspondent.



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Ameno
Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:51 am
#138






ThePwntR wrote:

Ameno wrote:


oh and on a note, does it matter? unless this was about a hundred years ago then no, women have equal rights now. as much as they care to have anyways. if you can't handle someone **edit**ing with you, and you have so little self-esteem that you give a damn what someone thinks, you're a sad life form anyways.




That right there, says you condone that type of behavior & you even end the statement in a derogatory quip! PWNT!






where in this sentance does it say that i condone it? because i said if you're forcing your self to dress to appeal to someone? you're a sad loser? well i stand by it, male or female. if you're dressing to be something you aren't, and you get everything that comes with it, its your problem. not mine.



Name:Tatsu
Master of Combat and the ways of the Force.
-Enlightened 8/12/04-
I am grey. I stand between the candle and the star.
I stand between the darkness and the light.
___________________________________________
?ire rains upon those who stand before me..

a Second Life for free(checkit out!)
BHM
Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:57 am
#139






MsNiL wrote:






BHM wrote:


Btw, you had a "no thanks" button: do not get visibility.


Doesnt work. You are back on the terminal after pretty much everything you do in pve.


FALSE. I didn't land on the terminals until I wanted to (knight trials). Don't spread false rumours please


Which was also considered to be "play by the rules". Or you could get visibility and deal with BHs (BHs does NOT mean harrassers: CSR should take care of them). For the same reason, when you go overt, you accept the fact that another overt could come and kill your toon. If he harrasses you or grief, you must report him.


If I go overt I say yes to pvp. If I cant handle it, I just go covert again. I do not have any option to say "no" to the terminal, nor the people using it.


You have the option: you don't put yourself on the terminals. Which is how the system used to work. It wasn't a lottery


It is the same thing: get visibility=BH comes, go overt=opp faction overt comes.


No, it's not the same.
Do a pve quest = get your position published on a terminal = be found wherever you are in the game


Only if you kill npcs. And you had the option to let your friend handle the mob and hit him once with a gun or melee attack anyway (which should be cool since your main point was that you wanted to be able to group)


Let's be honest: you want to play your jedi, show off, kill npcs, do all the "forbidden" things.


No, I do not. I play very responsibly. I deequip my lightsaber before entering populated places, I never wear robe and I disable forcerun in populated places.


In other posts you say that you want to be able to do anything the other players do tho. Which wasn't allowed, because Jedi in this timeframe are supposed to hide and fear for their lives.


By the way, we're paying another price now: jedi isn't powerful anymore, it is horrible to roleplay a jedi toon where ALL the jedi have the same abilities (while even in the movies/books/comics some focused on ls, some on force powers etc), the real roleplayers (like N'Varra or Versattion Eclipse) will be even more sick than having to deal with jedi, since there will be more jedi than before.. cause a lot of the previous melee fans plan to respec to jedi, the only "true" melee profession left..


Getting rid of the BH terminal was worth that exchange. It really was. I am for a nice system that allows me to feel like I am a jedi exile, but the visibility system produced something very different from what it was intended to do.


In your opinion. In my opinion it wasn't... this is an example of a legit thing to say, where everyoneis entitled to have his own opinion.. unlike the sexual harrasment simpathetic story










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ThePwntR
Wed Nov 09, 2005 1:58 am
#140

if you're dressing to be something you aren't, and you get everything that comes with it, its your problem. not mine.



That is not true regardless of how you feel....it is an act of violence. Do some research on the sunject!



LOL, that is the same arguement that rapist & sexual harassers use on trial to!
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