Jedi Archive
Thread: Update on the Pearl Drops
SpunkyKuma wrote:
The tuning system is so whacked, why bother with premiums? A guildie got a couple premium crystals off the DJMs before they got nerfed and both tuned like utter crap, like 45 dmg -4 or -6 or something, I have had better tunes from "good" and "quality" which are essentially much easier to get.
Another reason why I don't log my Jedi in anymore, it's just so frickin boring and it doesn't look like it's going to get any better.
Same here... I stopped playing a loooong time ago. Between the grind, get killed by a BH, then grind more again, and the CDEF Lightsabers.
I was going to return to game this week, but it looks like its not worth it. I spend hours killing NPCs to get crystals, and all I get are crap loot and color crystals, I still dont understand why are there so many color crystals in the game, is not like you make a rainbow lightsaber or anything...
Thank you for the great communication! However I disagree with your last statement. So many others have these "rare" pearls from previous farming sessions that it is unfair to the rest of the player base not to offer them anymore. It dosent matter what drops them once they are back in game they will be hunted down and snatched up as fast as possible because it is a necessary component for survival.
Tiggs wrote:
The "rare" pearls are simply ones which dropped from very high level creatures. What changed was that combat upgrade altered the levels of creatures. So where a pearl might before have been considered "premium" because it dropped from a level 287 creature, now it isn't considered premium because the creature dropping the pearl isn't level 287 any more.
The possible stats that a pearl can give you are the same, regardless of the pearl quality. The only advantage a "premium" pearl gives you is a better chance of getting higher stats. "Fixing pearls" would be a matter of changing the level ranges for different quality pearls. This would be a retroactive change which would suddenly change all the pearls in the game to be high-level pearls, increasing the power of Jedi globally and almost instantly - Unless we simultaneously lowered the advantage of premium pearls so that they don't give as much an increase to the odds of getting higher stats as they do now.
We would rather keep the premium pearls as they are - highly desirable and much better (in terms of the odds of getting higher stats) than normal pearls, but not drop them as casually as they dropped in the past. These should be rare, elite quest rewards and very high-end, elite-monster drops - not things that players "farm" from creatures that are no match for the player.
Message Edited by HOBBBY on 08-31-2005 01:18 PM
Message Edited by ArkonPhoenix on 09-01-2005 05:16 AM
if fixing existing perls makes jedi suddenly unballanced, then all the existing pre cu jedi are unballanced.
fact is ls is so weak compared to any other master level (cl54) weapon. it can't be sliced, cant be pupped, it has to be powered by rare loot drops, and you have ot make it yourself.
yet, to put post cu on the same footing as pre cu jedi would unballance the game....
the logic here confounds me.
GlargTheKelfn wrote:
i have to call shenanigans on tiggs for this.
if fixing existing perls makes jedi suddenly unballanced, then all the existing pre cu jedi are unballanced.
fact is ls is so weak compared to any other master level (cl54) weapon. it can't be sliced, cant be pupped, it has to be powered by rare loot drops, and you have ot make it yourself.
yet, to put post cu on the same footing as pre cu jedi would unballance the game....
the logic here confounds me.
YOU ARE SO RIGHT!!
with all do respect. great. just tell us what is dropping premiums/flawless?
the problem we have isn't that they are rare. The problem we are having is that they aren't there.
Subie_Smith wrote:Tiggs,There are two main problems right now besides the drops themselves:1.) Tuning is totally borked. I have tuned almost 100 crystals and pearls this past month and have never had one tune for higher than 66 damage or .13 speed or -5 Force Cost. The end result is that I've wasted countless hours hunting and tuning pearls to have a saber that is 199 DPS.2.) The overall impact of pearls and crystals completely nullifies the actual crafting of the saber. Prior to crafting my saber I stockpiled the very best resources on my server hoping to achieve a certain level of result. However the actual resources used and the process of crafting the saber has almost no bearing on the end result compared to crystals and pearls.I don't expect to have (or everyone else to have) a 750 DPS Saber with 9 Force Cost but I also don't expect to have a 199 DPS Saber with 36 Force Cost. There has to be some happy medium. You guys have to be willing to meet us half way. If Jedi are supposed to be 1.5x stronger (even though our templates cost 3000% more) then we should expect the DPS to be 1.5x stronger. For instance, if the average weapon out there is 300 DPS then it should be reasonable that the average saber is 450 DPS. If the average DPS on higher end weapons 600 DPS then the average DPS on higher end sabers should be 900 DPS.Simple Solutions:1.) Increase the current results of tuning. If only 'good' and 'quality' crystals and pearls are dropping then we should have a much higher chance of getting 'good' and 'quality' results. Right now it seems like we aren't even getting 'good' results on 'good' crystals and pearls.2.) Increase the overall impact that the actual crafting process has on sabers. Having the best resources, the highest number of experimentation points, and the best results while crafting should by itself yield a usable weapon. Adding crystals and pearls should make the difference between an average weapon (450 DPS) and an elite weapon (700 +) DPS. Right now I can only get about 200 or so DPS WITH the addition of crystals and pearls.I don't mind crystals and pearls being "rare, elite quest rewards and very high-end, elite-monster drops" but that should not preclude us from having an effective weapon. Right now they are basically stopping my ability to play a character that I've spent over two years working on.The bottom line is that sabers are the most difficult weapon in this game to acquire (and use) and therefor should be the most effective, not the least effective...
If we had 900 DPS sabers we'd be nigh-unkillable. Which, while not necessarily a bad thing (I'd like it), would be so incredibly unbalanced... While I can see why someone who (when the damn thing gets rereleased) is high in the FRS should be able to be unbeatable, basically what you're saying is anyone who gets great tunes should be better than everyone else, even those non-Jedi who spent just as much time/money making great weapons. A Jedi's strength should not be solely dependent on his weapon (like it mostly is now), but rather on his template and other skills. In conclusion-Buff up Jedi as a whole, so no one can whine about the sabers.
While this will make those of us with 700+ max 700+ DPS sabers even more powerful, honestly, I'd rather see an overall improvement to Jedi as a whole, rather than JUST fixing sabers.
Cafa wrote:
I really think that if we want some responses the trolling level needs to stop.
tiggs is the one that was trolling, but it's her job I guess, seems for the most part the responses just hit on the bait.
A troll is a time thief. To troll is to steal from people. That is what makes trolling heinous.
Trolls can be identified by their disengagement from a conversation or argument. They do not believe what they say, but merely say it for effect.
Trolls are motivated by a desire for attention by people and can't or won't acquire it in a productive manner.
Someone may be insufferable, infuriating, fanatical, and an ignorant idiot to boot without being a troll.
Also note that a troll isn't necessarily insulting, snide, or even impolite. Only the crudest, most obvious, forms of trolling can be identified so easily.
I have a pre-CU jedi with pretty good pearls in my saber. I have, since the CU, tried to tune various qualities of pearls and crystals without being able to beat anything I currently had in the saber.
I recently took roughly a five week break from SWG. I came back less than two weeks ago and in the last 4 days I have ground my alt to complete template, aquired a max damage, near max speed, near lowest SAC pistol, capped armor with armor break resist and made more money than I had in two years of playing. All from BHing.
Something strikes me as wrong with all of this. Non-Jedi can aquire everything they need in mere days if not hours if they work at it while jedi basically are screwed for now at least. My jedi is in decent shape, but I feel bad for the newer ones. I've seen the difference in post and pre CU jedi first hand by hunting them. It's a vast difference.
Armani96813 wrote:
why are people still bumping this
i dono
/bump for a laugh 
YuthuraMan wrote:
Armani96813 wrote:
why are people still bumping this
i dono
/bump for a laugh
No kidding. People actually think we're going to get pearls worth a damn... ever?? LOL