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Thread: Are there really Jedi here that think we are 1.5 times stronger than non-jedi?

BladeWaker
Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:09 am
#118




bhscum wrote:
bladewaker that video was awesome. and ppl want jedi back to precu hah




TY


and if u missed it.....


http://glug.grm.hia.no/~kristian/swg/WraithOfSin.wmv



Jedi were not good 1v1 for stackers, but very good when grouped , 10+ Jedi spamming dervish2 on one target , no matter of mitigation or ls psgs, you will drop fast, because of LS damage.


The game is exactly how it was in the "balanced" way, but just looks like a pathetic excuse for the old system...




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BladeWaker
Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:10 am
#119
OH wraithofsin is now ebayed....finally lol



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antares_Kauri
Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:48 am
#120
Some jedi definitely are, some are not. The problem with reactionary posts and replies like those in this thread is that the people who want to say they are not, and that is most Jedi, will ignore any evidence to the contrary no matter what. There are some Jedi templates that are 1.5x more powerful than most non-Jedi. There are non-Jedi templates that are no doubt almost or just as powerful. The Jedi you ask will always say "no", thinking of those couple of non-Jedi templates that will defeat most, but not necessarily all, Jedi templates. Many non-Jedi will say "yes" thinking only of those Jedi templates that are very powerful (many many Jedi have these templates).

So the real answer is: "sometimes".

antares



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Pday
Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:49 am
#121
hm is it just me or are the people who are claiming to have no problems the people with m.ls + force speed 2, + atleast 2 lines of defender? so much for template diversity.



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Willvas
Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:51 am
#122

lol those people claiming they never lost to a bh... didnt fight a real good person.. me and a few others on bloodfin... never lost to a jedi.. all different types of templates... especially the master saber and the master defender types...


i have said it in other templates... a good bh will last longer then the ole jedi force bar.. even if you pop a holocron... you will lose eventually... i will out last you... i run low on mind i toss paralyze on you... i get to sit 30 plus seconds... lol


get my mind back... pop some food again... watch you sweat till im done.. finish you off... its not hard... you do far less damage to me... i do about 1500 damage to you where you will do about 500... if that.. and we are talking about a good saber... since my armor is 8100... on top of that armor break sliced...


my mind regen reaches around 235. and with some booster blue.... lol im a vet... along with a few others... you wont beat us....


stop trying to act like you are good.....


face it.. jedi have a heal timer.... you cant keep up.... you will heal more then we will... you will fall to lack of force or because you cant heal fast enough... one or the other... you will die...






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felipz
Mon Sep 12, 2005 7:55 am
#123




Willvas wrote:

lol those people claiming they never lost to a bh... didnt fight a real good person.. me and a few others on bloodfin... never lost to a jedi.. all different types of templates... especially the master saber and the master defender types...


i have said it in other templates... a good bh will last longer then the ole jedi force bar.. even if you pop a holocron... you will lose eventually... i will out last you... i run low on mind i toss paralyze on you... i get to sit 30 plus seconds... lol


get my mind back... pop some food again... watch you sweat till im done.. finish you off... its not hard... you do far less damage to me... i do about 1500 damage to you where you will do about 500... if that.. and we are talking about a good saber... since my armor is 8100... on top of that armor break sliced...


my mind regen reaches around 235. and with some booster blue.... lol im a vet... along with a few others... you wont beat us....


stop trying to act like you are good.....


face it.. jedi have a heal timer.... you cant keep up.... you will heal more then we will... you will fall to lack of force or because you cant heal fast enough... one or the other... you will die...






Bad thing you aren't on ahazi. Mpowers / ls 0404 / enh 3402 / heal 4000 and I can put any bh / cm on a healing loop.




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Willvas
Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:07 am
#124

lol masterpowers lol...ok....


you really dont have good bhs then


you will run out of force faster then any other i face.... that is a funny template... and have faced master powers before... while you will have 1500 heal... when i do my first shot... you will takin an extra 1500 after that while you wait for your precious heal timer... lol i got first shot remember... you will go down the fastest... lol


i love how some think they are the greatest jedi but cant face the fact that the jedi heal timer is what has made them the weakest combat class in the game... not to mention the jedi heals take up more mind then doc/cm heals...


Message Edited by Willvas on 09-13-2005 12:12 AM



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JabbasFatash
Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:04 am
#125
I have yet to be completely "pawned" by any non jedi that I have fought (in fact I have won 90 percent of duels with current template). Conversely, I have yet to beat a jedi in a one on one duel (in group battles, jedi completely pawn). It could be because the Jedis that I have fought all had uber pre-cu sabers, but I doubt it. I think Jedi are about at the level they should be.




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Sandsifter
Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:24 am
#126

lol those people claiming they never lost to a bh... didnt fight a real good person.. me and a few others on bloodfin... never lost to a jedi.. all different types of templates... especially the master saber and the master defender types...


i have said it in other templates... a good bh will last longer then the ole jedi force bar.. even if you pop a holocron... you will lose eventually... i will out last you... i run low on mind i toss paralyze on you... i get to sit 30 plus seconds... lol


Wrong, you will miss most of the time with my thundercloud food and pikatta pie. And you cant sit during combat idiot. Right there proves to me you're a lier who's never really fought a jedi.


get my mind back... pop some food again... watch you sweat till im done.. finish you off... its not hard... you do far less damage to me... i do about 1500 damage to you where you will do about 500... if that.. and we are talking about a good saber... since my armor is 8100... on top of that armor break sliced...


So you have armor break slice, woopie. Think I cant still plant that on you think again. And go ahead and pop food, once that stomach fills you're toast. And maybe you can hit a non-defender for that hard but not me. No BH has ever hit me for more than 1k


my mind regen reaches around 235. and with some booster blue.... lol im a vet... along with a few others... you wont beat us....


stop trying to act like you are good.....


LOL, i love when a BH is dumb enough to use spices. And while you're going through withdrawels and puking Im kd power hitting your tail into the ground.


face it.. jedi have a heal timer.... you cant keep up.... you will heal more then we will... you will fall to lack of force or because you cant heal fast enough... one or the other... you will die...


Wrong, I also use stims and 30 sec drink. With infusion macro running, I never even need to use my 1500 force heal


I love when BH like this idiot run into me cause they get a rude awakening. I have never even been forced to use a holo cause Im not dumb enough to craft a high damage / high fc saber. With my 10fc 96 action saber I can go all day on basic attack. And guess what, you cant pop food forever, eventually your stomach will fill and its game over. However, I never need wait that long anyway. I snare, saber toss, armor break, power attack a few times and you're dead. Most of my fights last 5 minutes. I have never been beaten and Im fairly new to PvP. Since I finished my template 6 months ago Ive had maybe 75-100 BH come for me of all flavor of the month templates. Its never even close.


Simple really, you want to win pick the right template. Sure lightning and cloak are fun but they arent meant to do well in pvp. The enhancer line is the escape power set, not the tank set folks
Duedroth
Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:47 pm
#127

DigitalMice wrote:
Honestly, if you came to our server, I would beat you with my Jedi, my BH, and my Droid Engineer. I've had enough of your posts. Move along little guy. Your trolling is both annoying and ridiculous.



I'm not trolling, I'm responding to your thread. If you can't deal with honesty in a thread you created, then you might wanna ask yourself why you posted it. Getting nods by overreacting babies isn't really the reason I usually start threads, but to each their own I suppose.

I'm telling you there's no way that your noobie lowca server has ANYTHING that Ahazi hasn't seen. I know the templates you're talking about and if you don't want to take the time to figure out how to beat them and adapt then I submit that it is your server which is behind the times, not mine.



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vader1313
Mon Sep 12, 2005 9:04 pm
#128

Duedroth wrote:

DigitalMice wrote:
Honestly, if you came to our server, I would beat you with my Jedi, my BH, and my Droid Engineer. I've had enough of your posts. Move along little guy. Your trolling is both annoying and ridiculous.



I'm not trolling, I'm responding to your thread. If you can't deal with honesty in a thread you created, then you might wanna ask yourself why you posted it. Getting nods by overreacting babies isn't really the reason I usually start threads, but to each their own I suppose.

I'm telling you there's no way that your noobie lowca server has ANYTHING that Ahazi hasn't seen. I know the templates you're talking about and if you don't want to take the time to figure out how to beat them and adapt then I submit that it is your server which is behind the times, not mine.



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Duedroth
Mon Sep 12, 2005 9:09 pm
#129

DigitalMice wrote:

Duedroth wrote:
I hate the responses which state:

"You obviously haven't fought the right regular profs"
"You should come to X Server, we have Y and Z here"

Firstly, how would you know which professions I've come up against? I pvp regularly (admittedly alot less in the past 2 weeks because of a promotion at work) and duel very often. I seek out the best for duels. I know who the upper echelon melee stackers are, and I know the same of the BHs on Ahazi.

Secondly, do you honestly believe that only your server has seen an influx of these new non-Jedi templates? Are you so dense as to believe that if someone is having success with their character, they must be on a "lesser" server?

Personally, here's my answer:

I HAVE fought the templates you're talking about. Melee stacker with doc, AB resist 8K armor, the works. MBH/MCM with AB sliced armor, etc. I've fought them all.

And I still say that a full templated Jedi, even without FRS, is about 2.5x stronger than any full template (250 SP allocated to combat professions) non-Jedi. That's right, not only am I disagreeing that we're weaker than 1.5, I'm upping it to 2.5.

And no, I don't sploit.


lol

Congratulations. You have now beat the game. Please teach us other Jedi how to be like you.

Thanks,




And for the record this is where you attacked me first. It would be defined as trolling a LOT more than any of my other replies would be.



Nathan Bluewater Smuggler and Captain of the Ivory Eagle
Oberon Bluewater Twi'lek Bounty Hunter
fireonice fireonice Dark Jedi Knight
A'idan Corso Merchant Extraordinaire
Behold an YT-1300 and the one that piloted it was Nathan and Vengeance followed with him.


GeckoFighter
Mon Sep 12, 2005 9:29 pm
#130

in the beginning days we were 1.5x stronger. With master defender a jedi could tank 2 or 3 normal players and effectivly eliminate them


now with all the BHs whining we got degraded down, so now our 1.5x as strong doesnt exist.






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