Jedi Archive
Thread: IF THE NEW FRS IS PVE I am goin to *edit* lose it.
MsNiL wrote:
Oh, btw. We need a pvp server, and give you bunch your own forum where you can whine and argue who's the most powerful.
Don't worry...this won't change much...and it would be brought to the proverbial PvE forums anyway.
Like I said, I'm an ex-nightly PvPer...and the "uberness" is part of the reason why. Plus, I've come to realize I enjoy PvP far more in First Person Shooter games...it's more...authentic. And no, I did not repeatedly get "pwned' in SWG...I just got very tired of the same old scene. Not to mention the GCW being dead...but that's besides the point.
At any rate, over in Matrix Online, with the "hostile" servers, the people who played on thosewere "better" at MxO and at real life in general because theywere PvPers. Apparently not being a "carebear" elevates your status in both the digital world and the real one. 
I spent alot of time in a Quake 3 mod called "Navy Seals" that my bf played at the time.
HarlequinMK19 wrote:
Don't worry...this won't change much...and it would be brought to the proverbial PvE forums anyway.
Like I said, I'm an ex-nightly PvPer...and the "uberness" is part of the reason why. Plus, I've come to realize I enjoy PvP far more in First Person Shooter games...it's more...authentic. And no, I did not repeatedly get "pwned' in SWG...I just got very tired of the same old scene. Not to mention the GCW being dead...but that's besides the point.
At any rate, over in Matrix Online, with the "hostile" servers, the people who played on thosewere "better" at MxO and at real life in general because theywere PvPers. Apparently not being a "carebear" elevates your status in both the digital world and the real one.
Message Edited by MsNiL on 10-22-2005 10:20 PM
You have no idea the powers of the dark sideThe frs has got to be primarily pvp based, thats just how it is, but no killing bh's this time, and it has to be well designed, perhaps add more levels in the system as well.
GlargTheKelfn wrote:
Srider_Killarney wrote:
If the new FRS is not pvp based then I will throw in the towel, that would just be the last straw.
but would make the majority of the game's players who do not pvp very happy.
pvp = minority.
I would rather see the game deleted than to ever see a PvE frs.
Zinqy wrote:
Jesus are you people serious?, i will be the first to admit the old system had its problems, but pve frs ( I cant stop laughing here ) apart from the fact you will end up with a server full of jedi masters, and then what, then whats your endgame ?
The frs has got to be primarily pvp based, thats just how it is, but no killing bh's this time, and it has to be well designed, perhaps add more levels in the system as well.
You can't give me a reason why it HAS to be PvP based.
Nor can you give me one reason as to why it CANNOT be PvE based.
The only valid point you make, and I agree fully, is that it has to be well designed.
Message Edited by HarlequinMK19 on 10-22-2005 04:29 PM
Message Edited by HarlequinMK19 on 10-22-2005 04:35 PM
Message Edited by Matt0ne on 10-22-2005 03:33 PM
MsNiL wrote:
Hass1234567 wrote:
do the trials, drop urout, keep ur titleand friendly duel ppl in MO like pre cu then
This is not about me. It's about supporting 80-90% of the players instead of a small minority.
Message Edited by MsNiL on 10-22-2005 09:33 PM
80-90% of them will quit when they get bored of only pveing
MsNiL wrote:
I spent alot of time in a Quake 3 mod called "Navy Seals" that my bf played at the time.
HarlequinMK19 wrote:
Don't worry...this won't change much...and it would be brought to the proverbial PvE forums anyway.
Like I said, I'm an ex-nightly PvPer...and the "uberness" is part of the reason why. Plus, I've come to realize I enjoy PvP far more in First Person Shooter games...it's more...authentic. And no, I did not repeatedly get "pwned' in SWG...I just got very tired of the same old scene. Not to mention the GCW being dead...but that's besides the point.
At any rate, over in Matrix Online, with the "hostile" servers, the people who played on thosewere "better" at MxO and at real life in general because theywere PvPers. Apparently not being a "carebear" elevates your status in both the digital world and the real one.
We also played alot of Street Fighter II and Tekken 3 back in the days when they where popular. But now I just want some quality time with my friends instead of trying to defeat other players in the best possible template I can make.
I can pvp for fun, but pvp in SWG is not fun. There's nothing to support what I feel makes pvp fun.
I feel no purpose in the act of proving myself "better" than someone else, especially someone I dont know, when there are no prices to be won that can help me in my real-life. AllI want to do in-game really is to explore as much as possible, using badges as a track of "what I have done" and not.
I want to be better at Healing, simply so I can add to my group, help my group completing the missions/quests I begin. I look more to be known as a good pve player that other players may find useful, than building a title as a pvp player.
Some people have a diminished real-life ego that they have to build up, and they do so in a computer game. If they can be good at something, it makes them feel better, even if it's all an illusion, since in an rpg it's all about numbers. A good template and good equipment help more than skill in the long run.
Naturally they hate people who tells them the truth: that their "victories" in a rpg proves nothing... since rpg-pvp have so little to do with skill, and people who look for "balance" rather than feeding their already superpowerful template, are labeled as "carebears".
Call me carebear if you like, but I do feel sorry for some of them.
Message Edited by MsNiL on 10-22-2005 10:20 PM
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Well spoken, and pretty similar to how I feel. Yes, I could PvP nightly here...I used to. I simply choose not to because MMO PvP is "weak" PvP as far as I'm concerned. I'll jump into PvP occasionally, have my fun, and then leave...and naturally I enjoy killing Bounty Hunters, although the uber-dudes say that BH'aare not PvP...oh well, I guess they'reright.
HarlequinMK19 wrote:
MsNiL wrote:
Hass1234567 wrote:
do the trials, drop urout, keep ur titleand friendly duel ppl in MO like pre cu then
This is not about me. It's about supporting 80-90% of the players instead of a small minority.
Message Edited by MsNiL on 10-22-2005 09:33 PM
She is fairly accurate. PvPers, naturally, all tend to congregate together in-game (since they kind of have to). Any one major battle in Theed, we'll say, is naturally going to give the impression that there are a lot of PvPers, when in fact there are still plenty of people on other planets who are NOT PvPing. Furthermore, PvPers tend to use the forums a lot more than non-PvPers I noticed...most likely in the hopes of getting information on how to improve their game...so that illusion of a PvP "majority" is created again. In my personal experience, I know more people who PvE than those who PvP, and this coming from an ex-nightly PvPer.
As I said above, I would ideally like a PvE quest-based FRS to be combined with some type of PvP one. I don't see why it can't be both. Maybe just make it so that a PvE Jedi can still advance in levels, but someone who is going beyond and fighting in PvP will be more powerful (or whatever they plan on "rewarding" us with).
Matt0ne wrote:
80-90% of them will quit when they get bored of only pveing
MsNiL wrote:
Hass1234567 wrote:
do the trials, drop urout, keep ur titleand friendly duel ppl in MO like pre cu then
This is not about me. It's about supporting 80-90% of the players instead of a small minority.
I was considering quitting, but then Aurilia came, and when I was done RotW came. I am almost done with RotW and now came ToOW. I also made a Master Pilot.
lmao.
this game should be called: SWG:JTLS (jump to the last straw)
MsNiL wrote:
Matt0ne wrote:
80-90% of them will quit when they get bored of only pveing
MsNiL wrote:
Hass1234567 wrote:
do the trials, drop urout, keep ur titleand friendly duel ppl in MO like pre cu then
This is not about me. It's about supporting 80-90% of the players instead of a small minority.
I was considering quitting, but then Aurilia came, and when I was done RotW came. I am almost done with RotW and now came ToOW. I also made a Master Pilot.
I finished most of RotW the2 weeks it was out didnt enjoy it that much, this new expansion looks ALOT better really hope it is. I do wish they would add a FRS for both PvE and PvP and/or a mix of bothI think we would all find that fun
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