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Thread: Is player bounties out the door?

VickeVire
Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:14 am
#1

As the game has changed so much the last year (well, bugs are still the same has anyone considered the ”love” BHers got with the phat loot marks is because they are going to remove the player bounty missions? Some will reply it was Blixdev doing it on his spare time but come on… I don’t buy that.


SOE know the “forced” PvP concept was a bad idea that has for most part generated a lot of hate in this game. The BH/jedi issue has taken way to much focus away from the rest of the game and as a whole been nothing but bad will towards SOE and SWG.


Whatever the older jedi say about hard mode and so on is no longer valid as the power of a jedi toon has been taken away (or lets say it’s marginally better). Who can say that the path to get to a full temp jedi equal the reward, even with the now easier grind and less penalties? I myself do not.


To me it seems the “reward” is you get the choice to play a jedi IF you subscribe the 18 weeks of FS phases but hey… I might be wrong.


Well the point of this post was to ask if you think this might be the way the ship is turning?





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Huples_Cat
Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:20 am
#2

You're not an SOE stooge are you?



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VickeVire
Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:23 am
#3

actually this was just a thought I got reading alot of post this morning...





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Atzo
Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:25 am
#4

cant see player bounties being removed.



some people always want to hunt other people. less predictable/more exciting than hunting a coded/bugged npc.


and of course some people just get enjoyment out of killing knowing the xp loss.





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Durzel
Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:38 am
#5



Atzo wrote:

cant see player bounties being removed.

some people always want to hunt other people. less predictable/more exciting than hunting a coded/bugged npc.

and of course some people just get enjoyment out of killing knowing the xp loss.




Thing is, that's about as close to griefing as you can get.

Depriving someone else of XP earnt is quite different than anything else that exists in the game. It really isn't any different than having the ability to loot someones corpse in PvP after you kill them - and this has NEVER been in the game. If I stole an item from someone by offering to slice something for them, then running away - I'd quite rightly get reprimanded. If I trained some mobs onto a group who were fighting and one or more of them got killed - again, I would get called on it.

I don't really see how depriving someone of XP is any different, plus - it's a broken system anyway really as it only delays a Jedi reaching full temp - it doesn't "kill" them as the whole permadeath system originally intended.



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Turd_Ferguson523
Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:29 am
#6


VickeVire wrote:
has anyone considered the ”love” BHers got with the phat loot marks is because they are going to remove the player bounty missions?





Nope. As a matter of fact, they are working on introducing player bounties on other players/professions as well. (BTW before I get the 'where did you see that, I don't believe it blabbering, Veela (a former smuggler who also worked for a gaming magazine spoke to 2 developers at E3.)

So don't get your hopes up.

Message Edited by Turd_Ferguson523 on 09-07-2005 06:32 AM



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VickeVire
Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:59 am
#7

lol, I don't care if I get hunted or not. In 6 months as jedi I've been hunted twice. I just play the game. I admit I do not PvP much (so I don't gain alot of vis)and I guessthe fine tunedBH/MCM will probably win.


As i stated above this question just came to mind...





Turd_Ferguson523 wrote:

So don't get your hopes up.










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perfavorebasta
Wed Sep 07, 2005 5:02 am
#8

A BH that hunts a Jedi in not pvp. Pvp is when I decide to go SF and will go around looking other players that made the same decision.


BH vs Jedi is a failed attempt to keep jedi rare. Should be removed


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cloudwalker1
Wed Sep 07, 2005 5:11 am
#9






Turd_Ferguson523 wrote:




VickeVire wrote:

has anyone considered the ”love” BHers got with the phat loot marks is because they are going to remove the player bounty missions?







Nope. As a matter of fact, they are working on introducing player bounties on other players/professions as well. (BTW before I get the 'where did you see that, I don't believe it blabbering, Veela (a former smuggler who also worked for a gaming magazine spoke to 2 developers at E3.)

So don't get your hopes up.

Message Edited by Turd_Ferguson523 on 09-07-2005 06:32 AM





Never going to happen after the way jedi/BH worked, they will not implement a system were people can grief others of same lvl or possible lower.


As of now there is no reason for jedi to be forced into PvP via a BH. It does not cull the jedi population, nor does it make them less visable. Jedi are no longer the stronger profession(in fact a lot of jedi due to weapons/heals are a lot weaker). Wether or not SOE will change it i dont know. Either way I will not fight BH at the moment, If i lose i lose xp if I win I gain nothing and the BH loses nothing. SO until SOE give me a reason to fight back my fisrt attack will be a root my next move will be to cloak, then go play my second account or alt.

Message Edited by cloudwalker1 on 09-07-2005 01:12 PM





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LagSolo
Wed Sep 07, 2005 5:26 am
#10






cloudwalker1 wrote:

SO until SOE give me a reason to fight back......





Careful what you wish for.......A reason to fight back does not always equal a "reward"...it can also be fighting back to avoid a negative effect on your toon.


If xp loss is not enough....maybe SOE will realize that and reimplement skill loss.....probably never reimplement permadeath but I'm sure they could come up with something else.








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Grunzer
Wed Sep 07, 2005 5:34 am
#11






Turd_Ferguson523 wrote:




VickeVire wrote:

has anyone considered the ”love” BHers got with the phat loot marks is because they are going to remove the player bounty missions?







Nope. As a matter of fact, they are working on introducing player bounties on other players/professions as well. (BTW before I get the 'where did you see that, I don't believe it blabbering, Veela (a former smuggler who also worked for a gaming magazine spoke to 2 developers at E3.)

So don't get your hopes up.

Message Edited by Turd_Ferguson523 on 09-07-2005 06:32 AM





The developers have been saying that for 2 years now. It'll never happen, they just keep dangling the carrot to keep people interested.


The simple fact is if they haven't been able to come up with a system for player bounties that won't be exploited by now, they never will. When they said they were "working on it" at E3, all that REALLY meant is that it still comes up from time to time in meetings, and gets dropped again for the same old reasons.

Message Edited by Grunzer on 09-07-2005 05:35 AM



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Zinqy
Wed Sep 07, 2005 5:40 am
#12

I think whatever they meant to do its heading that way, removal of names from terms, removal of pve xp loss, removal of group vis, it is the only thing left to throw jedis fully into carebear / completely unrealistic land.

Thats not to say that i dont believe like others that its simply become a way of greifing lower level jedis, but whose fault is that... soe's.



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Darkvenegence
Wed Sep 07, 2005 5:46 am
#13






Atzo wrote:

cant see player bounties being removed.



some people always want to hunt other people. less predictable/more exciting than hunting a coded/bugged npc.


and of course some people just get enjoyment out of killing knowing the xp loss.






which is exactly why there should never have been player bounties in the first place,its sounds good in theory but then the griefers ruined it




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