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Thread: Sign if you think Healer should get buffs and rez

EAB
Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:11 pm
#1



I'm only 4000 healer myself (like most people), so this isnt out of personal bias. But healer is most certainly the least used proffession available to us. And the reason is simply that healer overal gives less ability / benefit then a doctor or CMwould get.



Master doctor:


2 methods of damage healing (Bacta shot, Bacta jab)


1 Heal over time (bacta infusion)


Wound healing


Drag skill (often overlooked but VERY useful in mass pvp)


Can clear states and effects(stabilizers, bandage, countertoxin, extinguish fire, disinfect)


Can give 6 types of buffs


Can rez at master


Gains defensive mods (50 melee/ranged)


And for a measly 5 skill points, a doctor can have bacta toss, and a few points more give an area heal.








Master Healer:


2 methods of damage healing (force heal, total heal)


1 Heal over time (force infusion)


Can heal while KD


Wound healing


Can clear states and effects (heal states, stop bleeding, cure poison, cure disease, force extinguish)


2 debuff skills (sap, shock)


No buffs


No rez ability


No defensive mods


No options to grow beyond this skillset as far as healing is concerned





Now, Im not of the mindset that the healing tree should get defensive mods (thats what defender is for). However it's pretty clear to me that giving the healer trees some sort of doc-style buffs, and master healer getting a rezzing ability makes a lot of sense to putting jedi healing on par with the other healing proffessions and would increase the number of jedi healers in use. I know there are lots of people who want to play the jedi healer role, but do not because the skillset isnt very functional.


Anywho theres my data and my idea, post your responses, questions, concerns, poetry and what not if you wish





Message Edited by EAB on 10-09-2005 01:14 PM



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Resourceguy2005
Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:12 pm
#2

/sign
JTF95Bravo
Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:12 pm
#3

/sign




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Wolf24601
Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:13 pm
#4

/sign


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Progettista
Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:13 pm
#5

/no



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Dbizzle5
Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:14 pm
#6






Progettista wrote:

/no






Why not?


/sign btw



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Progettista
Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:17 pm
#7

You become a jedi to be a specific profession, not be a better version of everyone else. Jedi are focused on the force, not everyday convensions. Even anakin skywalker couldn't heal other jedi from death in the clone wars, why should you guys? You are self-taught weak jedi that do not have the power of big players. Once the FRS comes out again and your a master, even then you will not be as good as fisto or windu.


Main point: Jedi is one profession not all professions beefed up



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victum
Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:18 pm
#8

I've been saying this for a while now



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ValinCalred
Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:19 pm
#9



Progettista wrote:
You become a jedi to be a specific profession, not be a better version of everyone else. Jedi are focused on the force, not everyday convensions. Even anakin skywalker couldn't heal other jedi from death in the clone wars, why should you guys? You are self-taught weak jedi that do not have the power of big players. Once the FRS comes out again and your a master, even then you will not be as good as fisto or windu.
Main point: Jedi is one profession not all professions beefed up



so what are we supposed to do? sitting around and meditating in a video game isn't my idea of a good time.




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SoloBacca1
Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:20 pm
#10


/sign ACTUALLY! Healer is the less played Mastery in the entire Game! But we get Revamp'd before FRS for sure! Thats means in about a year or soo... But me thinks it would be in November we get Revampe'd




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EAB
Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:21 pm
#11


[Edit]



To be fair, I added that jedi do have the ability to heal while KD, that is fairly significant.


And so CM's dont feel left out (since jedi do have 2 weak CMtype abilites) heres the CM breakdown for comparison:





Master Combat Medic:


3 Methods of damage healing (bacta shot, bacta spray (AoE), Bacta toss)


3 DoT attacks (neurotoxin, infect, deuterium toss)


6 debuff skills (hemhorrage, shock, traumatize, electrolyte drain, thyroid rupture, paralyze)


Can rez at master


Gains defensive mods (60 melee / 75 ranged)


For a few more skill points can increase healing efficiency and learn drag (xx4x medic)



I personally feel that drag should be in the CM pre-reqs by the way, but thats a discussion for a different topic.





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Progettista
Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:22 pm
#12






ValinCalred wrote:





Progettista wrote:

You become a jedi to be a specific profession, not be a better version of everyone else. Jedi are focused on the force, not everyday convensions. Even anakin skywalker couldn't heal other jedi from death in the clone wars, why should you guys? You are self-taught weak jedi that do not have the power of big players. Once the FRS comes out again and your a master, even then you will not be as good as fisto or windu.


Main point: Jedi is one profession not all professions beefed up





so what are we supposed to do? sitting around and meditating in a video game isn't my idea of a good time.





It is what jedi do, Master Yoda is meditating half of the time in the movies. Force comes to you through meditating, not skills (excluding meditate)



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The1Ek
Sun Oct 09, 2005 1:23 pm
#13

I think the buff part makes sense

But the rez doesnt fit imo



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