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Thread: PVP Tips Needed

kayber76
Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:28 am
#1

Ok I know this has been asked a dozen times but times change and so do moves to beat people with. I'm moving up in Jedi and I need 7 boxes till I'm done with my template. I've had some run in's with BH's and I've won a few but lost many more. So tell me what are your tricks, food, moves, what do you do to beat them.


What combo's do you use, what saber's do you usually use. I prefer my gen IV 1 handed 370 dmg saber though the FC is 21. I just want to get good at PVP soon I'll be forced into it...I want to learn how to win..that's all I want to know..




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wrrle
Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:32 am
#2

whats your template?


and you really need to step that saber down to a third gen or get some better pearls cause your going to drain yourself fast.



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IL-Vec
Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:38 am
#3

PRACTICE and get a better saber


at 4004 saber/2000 heal/ 2002 enh(and having kept Mbrawler)most jedi should be able to beat any single BH(without a LS resist ADK'd PSG)with a decent set of 3 pearls/crystals



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Rhayven
Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:38 am
#4

BEST tip i can give you...until you feel you can hold your own in pvp, DO NOT become a knight. I have seen a few good jedi leave the game simply because of making that mistake.



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kayber76
Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:43 am
#5

MLS, Healer 3223, Enhance 4xx3...My saber doesn't kill me i usually channel it back I didn't think 21 was so bad..i love the 370 fast kills...


Hard to practice if you avoid the Terminals....


No I want to go Knight, I just want to learn what people do...I use food all kinds of food KD, Brandy, Melee. I usually run around with force run try to get posture down then KD them but lately i've been told I should go straight for the mind. The saber does drain me fast I guess I have to run back around to fix up my Force...



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(Kayber Koerta - Smuggler and Freelance Pilot)
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WILDMAN_SOLO
Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:47 am
#6

Lock the door.......................



and hope they don't have blasters !





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wrrle
Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:50 am
#7






kayber76 wrote:

MLS, Healer 3223, Enhance 4xx3...My saber doesn't kill me i usually channel it back I didn't think 21 was so bad..i love the 370 fast kills...


Hard to practice if you avoid the Terminals....


No I want to go Knight, I just want to learn what people do...I use food all kinds of food KD, Brandy, Melee. I usually run around with force run try to get posture down then KD them but lately i've been told I should go straight for the mind. The saber does drain me fast I guess I have to run back around to fix up my Force...





I always have a synth in belly, and when the fight starts I will eat one vercupti. This puts my HAM at around 4800, when the steak runs out I have the choice to start popping exo or to eat another vercupti. I always keep a nuetron on hand also, 2 vercupti and a nuetron and I am around 6k HAM.


As for attacks stick a dizzy and try for posture, once postured clear your intim and beat him down. If you see small numbers coming out of his head I will use combo hit to beat the steak out, if you still see small numbers after some combo hits run because he has a PSG ADK.





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SpunkyKuma
Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:51 am
#8

Well, get some practice under your nose- finish up the trials until you reach the Giant canyon Krayt and then start practicing vs BH's or guildmates or even parcipitate a few active PVP group/events before becoming a full knight. Once you start the trials, you will no doubt be on the boards unless you keep novice marksman or brawler and use a gimped weapon while your guildies tank for you...

And that 21 force cost is FAR too high, channeling force will make it worse as your MLS attacks are 3.5x force cost (I think) and you continue to dibiliate your HAM, so you're draining close to 75 force per flurry2 attack. Drop to a 3rd gen or find some good force cost pearls/crystals.



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Aries1
Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:53 am
#9

First upgrade your saber if possible.

Second, know when to run.
BH encounters are all about advantage. The BH has all the initial advantages.
If you survive the initial attack, use the jedi warcry(FR2+ ) if you have it.
Gain yourself some time to heal up down some food and determine what type of BH(s) your dealing with.

If your successfull in putting some distance and healing up the advantage has turned to you.
You now decided when and where to attack not the BH.
The BH has 2 choices, play your game or break off the pursuit to regain the advantage at a later date.

If they chose to continue the fight:

prep your self , then time your FR so you can turn and fight with out the penalty.
Turn and fight. Stick some states, posture down , kd moves. If you get them down hit them with dervish2.
Until he is up again, then posture down,kd, devish until he goes down again.
Eat into his ham with wounds and BF, when your force is 1/2 -2/3 gone FR again. regen, heal up , Rinse and repeat.
Eventually if the BH continues he'll be be up beat up enough that the last fight will be quick.


My temp is MLS/H44x4/E44x4
I have never lost to a BH, I will some day, but so far they have died or given up the chase using these tactics.
Foods, I use brandy, stake, and have vercup for emergencies. Never needed any more then that.
Kd food is a waste your going down any way why waste the stomache space with that.

In my limited experiance the good BH when they lose their advantage break off the chase.
The bad ones keep it up until you kill them.
kayber76
Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:54 am
#10

Yeah I guess 21 is way too high but I put my decay kit on it lol so I can exchange pearls and crystals but thats' about it. I did craft it with nothing but eff points..



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(Yrag Iksniohc - Jedi Knight (aka Jedi Master) and Alliance Pilot)
(Kayber Koerta - Smuggler and Freelance Pilot)
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Lightburn
Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:57 am
#11

OK heres my guide for the Master healer templates

MLS MHEALER 4004ENHANCER


Dependant on the situation you should have different toolbars. You need 1 toolbar for 1 handed and 1 toolbar for double bladed IMO


Healing used.

Total heal self

Total heal other

force cure states

force cure states other

heal all self

heal all other

H.A.M heals

/Forcecurepoison self

/Forcecuredisease self

EXO in your toolbar (very important) macro every few seconds or click when neccessary but in your toolbar.

KD food i have this in because i forget it alot but this can we subbed for anotha command


LS Specials

KD 3

Dervish 2

Combo hit DB&1H

Flurry 2

Mind hit

Leg hit


Be aware that doing all dmg with just dervish 2 is alot more deadly than trying to knock your opponent down 4x

The first kd usually loses but can change. Dont forget try and stand even when dizzy (ONLY WHEN ON FLOOR) but dont spam use it once and afta it says you are 2 dizzy u fall down try again.


Whatever make sure you use your force before you HAM

I try and save force sumtimes and end up dieing. If you are getting beat just flee n fr2 away!


Absorb and channela are your friends espacially when FR2

DMG is nerfed but u can still try a kd and when fr2 is about to run keep spamming.





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wrrle
Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:58 am
#12

take the pearls out and delete it, you get the kit back



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kayber76
Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:04 am
#13

So Force Absorb takes force from your surroundings even people? I never use it never thought it worked...


I'm going to have to make a Gen III then Dual I've been using only 1 handed cause of the speed...and the mind hits..but you guys say Dual is better for dmg purposes?


My best pearl or crystals is -7 FC I have no -9



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"Great kid! Don't get cocky." Han Solo
(Yrag Iksniohc - Jedi Knight (aka Jedi Master) and Alliance Pilot)
(Kayber Koerta - Smuggler and Freelance Pilot)
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