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Thread: Snare Wars, 3 BH dead so far

Macshlong
Fri Oct 21, 2005 5:23 am
#1

I dont know wheather I have just been lucky enough to get 3 Bad BH's last night, but I managed to kill them all in a pretty normal amount of time (35 mins being the longest fight). The snare isvery annoyingyes but it isnt a major problem. I have Force wave and force supression, and have got into the habit of using them before the BH uses them on me so we are pretty much both snared all the way through the fight, Saber throw helps to stream steady damage on the BH if they do break away just to keep their mind ticking down.


I know that the 3 that hunted me arent the best out there, but 2 of them tried their best to keep 40-60m away from me and it didnt take too long to find something to run behind to draw them in closer.


Also I found that the BH having to use snare more often resulted in a lot less damage being taken on my part. Just so you know guys, its not the end of the world, Its very very annoying tho.


Im an average Jedi with a below average saber (450 DPS) I do PvP a lot and maybe my PvP knowledge helped a bit but this patch is by no means the Order 66 that people think it is


For the record, these are the only 3 BhI have seen in the last 2 months lol so maybe the Patch made more Bh think about hunting jedi again.




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silverback7904
Fri Oct 21, 2005 5:47 am
#2

Only had one bh since patch, was mbh/msl with some cm. He brought a droid that in the end was just about out dmging him. I agree the snare/root is not the end of things. You might have to work a bit harder and think out your fights instead of just trying to stand there and trade blows, IE: drag the fight to an area you would rather fight in with cover. Oh i'm typical tank build because it fits my play style not because ooo ooo ooo its the way to go. Mdef,Mls,Heal 3000, Enhan 0002.


Not saying I like or agree with the changes but there not the end of the world.







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Qui-Gonzalez
Fri Oct 21, 2005 5:54 am
#3

Posts like this are the sole reason I was not worried one iota about snare. So many ways around it, that there really was NO reason to panic.



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wyzyx
Fri Oct 21, 2005 5:59 am
#4

Any suggestions for a MLS/MDEF/4040 Healer? I usually dispach them quikly cuz I can get within 32 mters and KD them with Saber Throw, then Multi Combo some attacks after armor break, and using parwan when I need to catch them. Don't think this will work much anymore.



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Shaytin
Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:07 am
#5

I have had a couple i changed my template from MLS/Mdef/Heal 3xxx/Enhancer xxx2 to all the same but Enhancer 2xxx. Regen rates a lill better now anyway. I love it atm MLS + Speed + Defence.. Take the root/snare then when it breakes saber throw "knock down" FR1, Ar break ,root, power hit, leg hit, head hit.. worked great for me. Just need to time your actions better.



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Bunklung
Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:19 am
#6

It's a comforting post, but I think the frustation isn't entirely revolving around the snare changes.


As for me nothing has changed. I ran before pub 24. With rancor Aid, I'll still be running. I stocked up on nades and fireworks to give the BH some sort of entertainment. 300 dps, 500 max damage doesn't get me anywhere but a stale mate.


/stasis


/sit


/meditate


/firework


/nade


/repeat


/cloak


Talk about fun!





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WookieOgre
Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:29 am
#7

Personally the snare did not worry (aside from CM's), it's combining them with a SL buff that will show you the true form of being gimped.
Erynder
Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:33 am
#8






Macshlong wrote:

I dont know wheather I have just been lucky enough to get 3 Bad BH's last night, but I managed to kill them all in a pretty normal amount of time (35 mins being the longest fight). The snare isvery annoyingyes but it isnt a major problem. I have Force wave and force supression, and have got into the habit of using them before the BH uses them on me so we are pretty much both snared all the way through the fight, Saber throw helps to stream steady damage on the BH if they do break away just to keep their mind ticking down.


I know that the 3 that hunted me arent the best out there, but 2 of them tried their best to keep 40-60m away from me and it didnt take too long to find something to run behind to draw them in closer.


Also I found that the BH having to use snare more often resulted in a lot less damage being taken on my part. Just so you know guys, its not the end of the world, Its very very annoying tho.


Im an average Jedi with a below average saber (450 DPS) I do PvP a lot and maybe my PvP knowledge helped a bit but this patch is by no means the Order 66 that people think it is


For the record, these are the only 3 BhI have seen in the last 2 months lol so maybe the Patch made more Bh think about hunting jedi again.




Sorry. You are not killing me or any of my experieneced friends with a 450 DPS saber.



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Bunklung
Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:35 am
#9






WookieOgre wrote:

Personally the snare did not worry (aside from CM's), it's combining them with a SL buff that will show you the true form of being gimped.





I agree here too, but obvisouly any type of one hit wonders will haveto change, insta-incap is game breaking.



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Wolf24601
Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:37 am
#10






wyzyx wrote:
Any suggestions for a MLS/MDEF/4040 Healer? I usually dispach them quikly cuz I can get within 32 mters and KD them with Saber Throw, then Multi Combo some attacks after armor break, and using parwan when I need to catch them. Don't think this will work much anymore.






Therein lies the problem. The most effective ways to fight this on beta suggested that yet another FOTM template was emerging based on such a drastic core system change. This is going to need more testing, so I won't claim to know the answer yet, but it isn't looking good for some of the templates. I think I'm okay with mine, but I am hoping they allow another respec for those of you who invested millions of XP on templates that were negated this week. Go ahead and flame this for the respec point I raised...please...


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Jemok
Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:37 am
#11

Ok here is the thing about you and I and others with enhancer skills. Why should the game evolve into something that forces otehr jedi to pick up skills they want? Lots of jedi are mls mdef 4-0-4-0 healer or 4-0-0-0 healer and 1-0-0-0 enhancer. I am mls 4-0-4-0 def 4-0-4-0 healer and 3-0-0-2 enhancer. Think about the jedi that grinded their buts off to get the template they wanted durring a time when snare was different. Are they getting a respec? No, they will have to grind all over again to get enhancer skills because without them they will be kited all day, taht is not fair to them.
Bunklung
Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:38 am
#12






Erynder wrote:






Macshlong wrote:

I dont know wheather I have just been lucky enough to get 3 Bad BH's last night, but I managed to kill them all in a pretty normal amount of time (35 mins being the longest fight). The snare isvery annoyingyes but it isnt a major problem. I have Force wave and force supression, and have got into the habit of using them before the BH uses them on me so we are pretty much both snared all the way through the fight, Saber throw helps to stream steady damage on the BH if they do break away just to keep their mind ticking down.


I know that the 3 that hunted me arent the best out there, but 2 of them tried their best to keep 40-60m away from me and it didnt take too long to find something to run behind to draw them in closer.


Also I found that the BH having to use snare more often resulted in a lot less damage being taken on my part. Just so you know guys, its not the end of the world, Its very very annoying tho.


Im an average Jedi with a below average saber (450 DPS) I do PvP a lot and maybe my PvP knowledge helped a bit but this patch is by no means the Order 66 that people think it is


For the record, these are the only 3 BhI have seen in the last 2 months lol so maybe the Patch made more Bh think about hunting jedi again.




Sorry. You are not killing me or any of my experieneced friends with a 450 DPS saber.




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Macshlong
Fri Oct 21, 2005 3:55 pm
#13






Erynder wrote:






Macshlong wrote:

I dont know wheather I have just been lucky enough to get 3 Bad BH's last night, but I managed to kill them all in a pretty normal amount of time (35 mins being the longest fight). The snare isvery annoyingyes but it isnt a major problem. I have Force wave and force supression, and have got into the habit of using them before the BH uses them on me so we are pretty much both snared all the way through the fight, Saber throw helps to stream steady damage on the BH if they do break away just to keep their mind ticking down.


I know that the 3 that hunted me arent the best out there, but 2 of them tried their best to keep 40-60m away from me and it didnt take too long to find something to run behind to draw them in closer.


Also I found that the BH having to use snare more often resulted in a lot less damage being taken on my part. Just so you know guys, its not the end of the world, Its very very annoying tho.


Im an average Jedi with a below average saber (450 DPS) I do PvP a lot and maybe my PvP knowledge helped a bit but this patch is by no means the Order 66 that people think it is


For the record, these are the only 3 BhI have seen in the last 2 months lol so maybe the Patch made more Bh think about hunting jedi again.




Sorry. You are not killing me or any of my experieneced friends with a 450 DPS saber.





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