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Thread: I've always wanted feel a disturbance in the force
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Lotridus
Sat Sep 24, 2005 6:59 pm
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I was thinking about this the other day as I lay dead after being killed with one shot, as I had not being paying attention to my radar.
How about having the message "You feel a disturbance in the force" flash for 5 seconds when a PvPenemy (BH, Special ops Rebel/Imp Jedi) comes within 100 m. (or even when a CL 94 critter/NPC spawns right on top of you
)
I know that the best friend of BH's is the element of surprise and all, but since they are hauling ass on their swoop to get to you, by the time you wouldsee "You feel a disturbance in the force", he's already off his swoop and using KD on you.
If it makes you feel better, they could make this a force sensitive skill, or replace the Ranged Defense Tree with the Force Danger Sense tree so that you have to spend skill points on it. The higher the Danger sense mod, the furthur the range of the Danger sense... 55m, 100m, 250m, 500m...
I think it would add to the ambiance of being a Jedi if you could be like Obi Won and Anakin guarding Padmeh(or however you spell her name) in Episode II, where they both sensed the poisonous worms used to try to assasinate the senator... They didn't sense it quicker because they were too busy arguing... 
Anyway, just my 2 cents on an Idea that my friends thought was pretty cool... Feel free to play around with the idea...
Message Edited by Lotridus on 09-24-2005 09:08 PM
Real-Folk-Blues
Sat Sep 24, 2005 8:00 pm
#2
Yeah, I agree. Im still not jedi yet but would love for this to be implemented... (curse my pityful spelling)
Botchie
Sat Sep 24, 2005 8:01 pm
#3
Don't get me wrong brother, I agree and would enjoy a feature like this. Actually I have been thinking of a way to implement something like "You feel a disturbance in the force.... A hostile entity is coming for you." Maybe a system message that can appear on screen and shows your attacker on the mini map as an orange dot or something different from the other color codes. But honestly.... there's a few other factors involved in it that kinda negate its probability for actuall release. 1)Any smart/decent BHwill stalkyou, plot, plan, use the element of surprise, and tho it makes sense and would be a fun feature for jedi, the BH community wants us to remain their **edit** and content. Funny actually, they can ask for Permadeath and skill lost, but if we ask for something making us more powerful i.e. a JEDI like saber damage or precognition heck even removalof player bounties for NPCs is too "extreme" it makes sensebut ooooh no that would force jedi toactually be jedi again and not the Bounty Hunter Contentprofession.Either way tho besides thenegative influence of bounty huntersone would also have to consider the pracitcal use of it, it might work for just BH > Jedi but one error or anothermightbug it easily with aggro in the game. Again good idea, but needs a bit more evaluation and planning behind it before the devs see your post, realize its a good idea, and put it in the next day 
Real-Folk-Blues
Sat Sep 24, 2005 8:13 pm
#4
Botchie wrote:
Don't get me wrong brother, I agree and would enjoy a feature like this. Actually I have been thinking of a way to implement something like "You feel a disturbance in the force.... A hostile entity is coming for you." Maybe a system message that can appear on screen and shows your attacker on the mini map as an orange dot or something different from the other color codes. But honestly.... there's a few other factors involved in it that kinda negate its probability for actuall release. 1)Any smart/decent BHwill stalkyou, plot, plan, use the element of surprise, and tho it makes sense and would be a fun feature for jedi, the BH community wants us to remain their **edit** and content. Funny actually, they can ask for Permadeath and skill lost, but if we ask for something making us more powerful i.e. a JEDI like saber damage or precognition heck even removalof player bounties for NPCs is too "extreme" it makes sensebut ooooh no that would force jedi toactually be jedi again and not the Bounty Hunter Contentprofession.Either way tho besides thenegative influence of bounty huntersone would also have to consider the pracitcal use of it, it might work for just BH > Jedi but one error or anothermightbug it easily with aggro in the game. Again good idea, but needs a bit more evaluation and planning behind it before the devs see your post, realize its a good idea, and put it in the next day
Hmmm, i see your point. Maybe if you just got the message, and no indication of what it meant. (IE: no dots on radar, just a message that states that danger is lurking near-by) That would give you a chance to prepare... but BH's wouldnt want that... Anyways i could probably go into deep thought about it cause im bored out of my mind but I'll try not to.
TraceAntilles
Sat Sep 24, 2005 8:17 pm
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The Ranger gets that ability, why not the Jedi?? I mean for crying out loud has anyone watched the movies? That is afterall what drives this game's sales.
I certainly didnt hear about this game before I saw it on the wal mart shelves. And I didn't buy it cause of some fascination with what MMORPGs has to offer.
That is an AWESOME idea dude, screw what others say. They definitely need this implemented in the ranger revamp especially since the Cloak is getting the old nerf bat using the ranger revamp as an excuse for it.
Botchie
Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:01 pm
#7
Ok then, other profession complaints aside, if it was just a matter of its installation, I would have to say it would be in the defender tree, maybe in Pretanatural or however thats spelled, forgive me. xxx4 giving you full precognition to detect when a seeker droid is tracking you, and then a second message saying "YOU ARE IN IMMINENT DANGER!" when the BH comes within 300m and it adds a +50mod to jedi state defenses to the next attack you recieve, or more likely for a buff session of 15 seconds. also making you very difficult to be stasis'd or KD'd.
Erahth
Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:19 pm
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Botchie wrote:
Ok then, other profession complaints aside, if it was just a matter of its installation, I would have to say it would be in the defender tree, maybe in Pretanatural or however thats spelled, forgive me. xxx4 giving you full precognition to detect when a seeker droid is tracking you, and then a second message saying "YOU ARE IN IMMINENT DANGER!" when the BH comes within 300m and it adds a +50mod to jedi state defenses to the next attack you recieve, or more likely for a buff session of 15 seconds. also making you very difficult to be stasis'd or KD'd.
Now you're going too far for it to be workable. I do like the "You feel a disturbance in the force around you" system message...they're so easy to miss with everything else going wrong. At least that would give you half a chance for you to get your aura and infuse on, if you've got them, or whatever else you use for defence.
DrCobra01
Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:22 pm
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ive gotten this system message before, but it was sort of at a live event lol. me and some guild friends were in our player city on lok talking with a csr and we asked him if he could spawn some mobs. we all got a system message that said "you feel a disturbance in the force. a large dark presence is heading your way". then waves of djms anddjks appeared on top of us
it was crazy.
EnderLucy
Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:36 pm
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Yeah, what would be really cool and realistic would be if a Jedi on your friends list died it would say something like "You feel a disturbance in the Force, a scream suddenly silent. An ally has fallen." like in A New Hope when Ondaran blows up and Obi-Wan senses them all dying. Great idea though.
Message Edited by EnderLucy on 09-24-2005 09:37 PM
dudeskis
Sun Sep 25, 2005 1:04 am
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this should be something lower lvl jedi have.
full temps dont need anything like this, infact bh need the element of suprise to win. ofcourse there are those bh with crazy loots that kick ass no matter what, but on avg bh need it.
so maybe as you progress your radius of detection grows smaller. would make sense from an rp stand point as many jedi become arrogant as they grow in power.
full temps dont need anything like this, infact bh need the element of suprise to win. ofcourse there are those bh with crazy loots that kick ass no matter what, but on avg bh need it.
so maybe as you progress your radius of detection grows smaller. would make sense from an rp stand point as many jedi become arrogant as they grow in power.
Botchie
Sun Sep 25, 2005 4:21 am
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KammaRocca wrote:Shouldn't you already feel a disturbance in the force when you see a dot coming toward you on the radar? There are some Jedi skills that you as a player need to develop. The amazing skill of checking your radar is one of those.
Ever hear of aHuurton lair?Savage Quenker?voritors? Nightsisters? Ya know anything that may show up red on a radar. OH YA! I forgot, BH get to attack us first and don't con red, they get element of surprise anyway. But having such an interesting, unique, and damn good skill that all jedi should be able to have would only make sense and add an element of fun to our already dying if not dead profession. But alas ohhhh no, I am not entirely unsympathetic to your cause. I do realize that all BH take an oath at MBH to troll the jedi forums in an effort to discourage and stunt the professions growth. Congratulation, the one productive, decent, ideal topic in maybe 100,000 threads and you managed to somehow bring one truely negative post. Keep up the good work. you are truely the epitome of the BH/troll ideology.
In respone to the rest of the thread. Only new thing I can think of to add in concept is +15 Jedi precognition in every tier of Pretanatural. at tier2 you recieve the "You sense a disturbance in the force... You are in imminent danger!" system message, or "You sense a disturbance in the force.... <insert friends name here> has fallen." I'm not too sure what the friends list thing would do, but it would just be a neat little feature, and hopefully something whine and flame proff from other professions. Maybe a good feature for master/apprentice relationship if you can sense your partner is in danger then a waypoint is brung up on your screen to their location. At tier4 Pretanatural you are able to recieve the "You sense a disturbance in the force... An entity wishes to do you harm." message. I'm thinking maybe you will recieve this message whenever a bounty hunter takes your mission or locates you with a seeker droid. It is obvious many BH will not appreciate this because many marks can just plop down a house and ld before you even get to them and I can just imagine the bullshyt complaints from them now. but as a tier4 skill only taken on by low lvl padawans and master def templates they really shouldn't have too much a reason to compain and it would be a very good skill. maybe even change the name of the tree to match Valor. we'll call it "Battle Precognition" tree.
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