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Thread: Focus Thread: Lightsaber

Baciacca
Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:35 am
#1

Focus Thread: Lightsaber

Okeveryone this is your chance to let me and the rest of the community know what is going on with your Discipline (Notice I did not say Profession). I realize that there are certain issues that may or may not be considered exploits that have recently brought up, please send me PMs if you have any questions about this. DONT post them in this thread! Lets here what needs to be done with Lightsaber to improve and/or balance it.




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tihsmai
Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:38 am
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cchabot
Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:41 am
#3

My personel #1 issue would be the aparent speed bugs with lightsaber's as i attempted to document here


The second one would be the lack of impact that states have (stun, dizzy, blind all seem to do 'something' but so little of it their hardly worth the effort)


Lastly its sad that MLS has one of the worse 'master' boxes around .. dervish is a nice move, but cost/dmg wise its not something that says "Master at lightsaber" to me.. Combined with lacking boost from the speed mods, and 4th gens being available without having to go MLS, the title "Master lightsaber" means suprisingly little.. I would love to see some splendor brought back to it! By introducing a new single target high damage move or something





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Niccolado
Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:42 am
#4



Baciacca wrote:
Focus Thread: Lightsaber
Ok everyone this is your chance to let me and the rest of the community know what is going on with your Discipline (Notice I did not say Profession). I realize that there are certain issues that may or may not be considered exploits that have recently brought up, please send me PMs if you have any questions about this. DONT post them in this thread! Lets here what needs to be done with Lightsaber to improve and/or balance it.





needless to say:

Premium and Flawless is needed for internal balance (between jedi) and external balance (between other professions; specially BHs)




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Poktal
Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:44 am
#5

#1 thing off the top of my head is that Krayts need to be fixed drops need to be fixed we need some decent pearls to make a viable weapon to start with...

That so called fix didnt happen Krayts only spawn after a sever reset besides the ones in the graveyard


So all in all the Krayts arent fixed the drops arent fixed and crystals / pearls arent fixed it dont matter the lvl of krayt you kill you only get a *good* pearl



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grzmo
Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:45 am
#6

I would like to see a good Single Critical Hit in the Master Lightsaber Box (like the Critical Hit Bounty Hunters have), as well as better overall damage on Lightsabers that comes from the base stats of the crafted saber rather than from crystals or pearls (on par with a good Rifle). Premium and Flawless Pearls should be brought back, which is probably the biggest issue for new Jedi today.

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-Fred-
Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:46 am
#7

I'd say that 4x4x lines need some sort of equivelant to Power attack/armor break, having them both in x4xx is slightly unbalanced imo.



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delanstarrunner
Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:49 am
#8

Recently back from a break, I like the force costs on sabers. However, like mentioned above states seem to do little. I think the biggest concern I have is the poor quality of pearls that drop. I have only looted one clear/damage crystal since the CU.



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Mandrim
Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:51 am
#9


Niccolado wrote:


Baciacca wrote:
Focus Thread: Lightsaber
Ok everyone this is your chance to let me and the rest of the community know what is going on with your Discipline (Notice I did not say Profession). I realize that there are certain issues that may or may not be considered exploits that have recently brought up, please send me PMs if you have any questions about this. DONT post them in this thread! Lets here what needs to be done with Lightsaber to improve and/or balance it.





needless to say:

Premium and Flawless is needed for internal balance (between jedi) and external balance (between other professions; specially BHs)





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What I will mention is the INSANE amounts of new finished template Jedi out there looking for pearls (cause anyone can grind afk from 0->250 jedi sp).

Message Edited by Mandrim on 07-24-2005 03:53 PM



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QuintrixVanquish
Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:53 am
#10



The biggest issue I have seen so far seems to be that of Line Of Sight Errors.


Example:


BH attacks on mountanous terrain on tat for example...result= constant screen message with every special move attempted on BH 'cannot see target'


Example:


BH attacks on even terrain, I usepower attack at point blank range...result= constant on screen message 'too far away'


This issue is serious and can cause our friendly neighbourhood BH to actually win a battle, a thing none of us want. Can others confirm or deny if they are also suffering this bug.


Note: I used BH's a example but this is also happening on pve

Message Edited by QuintrixVanquish on 07-24-2005 06:53 AM

EvilAztec
Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:54 am
#11






  1. Our "weapon" has the lowest overall damage. I can build a rifle with a higher damage range.

  2. No high end pearl/crystal drops limits us, even as we spend more (money and time)on crap drops.

  3. 5th Gen saber removed? Why? For Balance? Sabers now top out at 800 if you're lucky, Rifles over 1000.

  4. Fix the tuning system to be a bit less random. It's pathetic a fair crystal tunes nicer than a premium pearl!

Message Edited by EvilAztec on 07-25-2005 11:13 AM



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JohnP
Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:59 am
#12

As a master saber the only thing slowing me down is action Iv got a pre CU saber with 4 -9 +120's and i get the cool speed boost at master but what good is it if i have no action? its like 4 to 5 hits then im slow as a noob! this is with the speed hack job fix we have to do.


so as a master we get extra speed that is no good because we have no action after 5 moves and one bogus move? oww and iv been a master saber for over 6 months and i have used only a 2 hand saber for 14 months + its sad I now look like a FTW saber user as 1 hand and pole suck!...



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Narut0
Sun Jul 24, 2005 7:00 am
#13

i would like to see a 5th gen saber tree, also there are 7 forms of light saber dissaplin last time i checked. not rembering the names however but i relise that only few jedi have mastered the 7th windu & depa beeing an exsample, even yoda only achived the 6th disiplin with regreat that the 7th may lead to a darker path due to its verosity.

now LS in general is a good fun weapon to look at now. But has no were near the dmg of some quest rewards n crafted weapons. and due to the combo skills of MBH/MDOC or MBH/MCM we have a problem with self buffing self healing BH who can more or less outlast any attack from a jedi and after force is depleated this becomes a big problem.

LS was a weapon that above all else when mastered could be used as a shield and a weapon, my oppion would be to create a better system for mastry

you would have saber techniques, saber disiplins (1 to 6), saber craft & finaly saber defences.

::saber techniques will focus on your speed & attacks
::disiplins on your saber accuracy and also have advanced attacks.
::saber craft will focus on the saber types you are able to make.
novice gen 1 1st tier gen 2 2nd gen 3(also 2h saber),
3rd gen 4 4th will be advanced models (ie dual blade)
& master will give gen 5 sabers

Saber crafting will be split in to more sub parts then now

you will have the saber core, saber energyconverter, saber focuse lense & saber hilt.
experementation will play more of a bigger part as you progress up the craft tree. also you will be able to craft more advanced parts as you go up the tree, the saber core will be your dmg energy converter your speed foucuse lense your FC and the hilt will be the crystal container at each tier you get a diffrent hilt moduel and each hilt will have a range of looks and styles.

saber hilts will go
1h - basic
2h - basic
Dualblade - basic
1h - inhanced
2h - inhanced
dualblade - inhanced
1h - advanced
2h - advanced
dualblade - advanced

then you will have master blades after aquireing master tree.


then again this is so full of plain rubbish it will probbly not work



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