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Thread: 12 Points of Inate Jedi armor or 35 points of melee defense?

Ase
Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:06 pm
#1

Since the shocking truth of ranged def being useless to melee types I want to drop defender 4440 for defender 4044. Whats worth more? 12 points of inate armor or 35 points of added melee defense? Any and all opinions are very welcome. Thank you.
Hulke
Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:09 pm
#2

Just to make sure you know that Improved Valor will still help against ranged attacks. The ranged def skills dont help but at least valor itself does.



MaxSmart
Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:15 pm
#3

We ran some very simple tests with our Jedi and defense lines,there was a difference between a Jedi with


4040 and 4440 and melee and ranged attacks, 25 pts dmg I believe give or take.


So a Jedi with 4440 Defender with no buffs no food and no cloths was hit with a saberby a MLS for 493 dmg


Same MLS hit a different Jedi that is 4040 for 519.


I guess it depends on weather you care about the additional dmg?


I am not the expert on this though just thought I would share with you what I have seen.






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Ase
Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:25 pm
#4

Part of my question has been answered. But i still need to know if the35 points of melee def. you get from the 0004 line in defender is better than the 12 points of IA you get with the 0400 line. And yes improved valor is very good. But I was thinking more in terms of overall defenses.
Sidalo
Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:25 pm
#5






MaxSmart wrote:

We ran some very simple tests with our Jedi and defense lines,there was a difference between a Jedi with


4040 and 4440 and melee and ranged attacks, 25 pts dmg I believe give or take.


So a Jedi with 4440 Defender with no buffs no food and no cloths was hit with a saberby a MLS for 493 dmg


Same MLS hit a different Jedi that is 4040 for 519.


I guess it depends on weather you care about the additional dmg?


I am not the expert on this though just thought I would share with you what I have seen.





The damage difference shown here was because of the Innate Armor, not the Ranged Defense given in x4xx.


There was not even a ranged person attacking or a ranged weapon being hel d in that test, as you describe it.



To the poster, the Ranged Defense is worthless now, but it wont be when they get around to fixing it.


Do you have issues with BH? If yes then take the xxx4 for specific valor and block, if not then take the x4xx, for the more well rounded and more Innate Armor




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Sidalo
Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:26 pm
#6






Ase wrote:
Part of my question has been answered. But i still need to know if the35 points of melee def. you get from the 0004 line in defender is better than the 12 points of IA you get with the 0400 line. And yes improved valor is very good. But I was thinking more in terms of overall defenses.




No it is not, especially if you already have xx4x and run Force Aura. The extra 35 will not take you much higher and the +12 Innate is much more valuable to you



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Sidalo
Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:29 pm
#7

As a note, the +12 going from +42 to +54 will raise your actual Armor Resist % from 37.38% to 44.82%


+35 to melee defense will not give you anything close to that.



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CloverRidge
Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:35 pm
#8

If you're just talking about Innate Armor vs the 35 melee....you'd be better off with the additional Innate armor.


With Aura Running plus your additional defenses you will probably be high enough defense wise to put someones damage at the min range of their weapons min/max. 35 more defense isn't going to make that much of a difference. You would see a greater return in taking less overall damage from the additional innate armor.


This though leaves out the Block gained from valor but since you were just asking about the innate armor vs the extra defense that's all I talked about in my post.



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MaxSmart
Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:35 pm
#9

You are correct and I am lazy for not typing that, I was just trying to show some actual numbers with certain defense lines that some players have.



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blademaster30
Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:55 pm
#10

armor



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Ase
Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:28 pm
#11

Thanks all for your advice and opinions. I will keep my 12 points of inate. I havent had any problems with BHs i was just curious if I should keep a tree I tho I didnt need. My main concern is Jedi vs Jedi pvp. Currently im MLS/Def 4440/Healer 4000/Enhancer 3002. I got anice 1.2 646-708 720 dps 10 FC 97 SAC Gen 4 Double Blade Saber, but its hard to hit those damn Mdef temps and really hurt them.
Ase
Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:29 pm
#12

What is the verdict on MDef/MLS healer 4040 or 4004? Will they fix regen enough to drop channel?
AvataroftheSith
Thu Sep 29, 2005 3:23 pm
#13






Ase wrote:
What is the verdict on MDef/MLS healer 4040 or 4004? Will they fix regen enough to drop channel?





Hope so, but i doubt it.



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