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Thread: Ok, I have seen it several times now, .... and I still dont get it.

Jedi_Xan
Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:42 am
#1

How jedi feel that that they are not powerful. I watched a guildmate jedi (mdef/mls enh xxx2/heal 3xxx) take down what was Sunday his 29th straight win against a BH. In none of the fights was he ever in trouble. I have the benefit of hearing him on ventrilo, and he literally wiped the floor with these guys. Ok, well, I am used to seeing this from him. I guess he is just really good at his template... but then, on Saturday, I saw another Jedi with avery different template (not sure of template, but he had powers and enhancer for sure) wipe the floor with a bh. So after deliberating over the events that I watched, I concluded that....


I don't understand why some of you have such a problem against BH's while others don't even sweat them. The problem seems to me that the ability to beat a bh is not in the template? It would appear to me that the ability to kill any given template bh rests strictly in the players abilities. Not in the template they have. So, to put it bluntly, if you cant beat a bh, you just need to practice learning your template.



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weaponxr
Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:44 am
#2

what his dmg on his saber?



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Atz_Breh
Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:49 am
#3

i don´tknow why ppl have problems too...


after i got full templ. (MPowers,0400saber,4404 enh,4000healer,nov. def.) i only got killed by BH´s3 times:

1st while running out of a cave with 1% force and about200 health

2nd while helping younglings grinding and spinning a Lair of pickets(didn´t even see the BH )

3rd while AFK...
Jedi_Xan
Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:49 am
#4

Which one? Hissaber is adequate but not uber. He uses different one's though, so it is not in the saber. It is in his tactics. I swear he looks like a shepperd herding sheep where the bh is concerned. They go only where he wants then to go, when he wants them to go there. I see this in every fight.He seems old school to me. He can be really harsh on the new jedi, and kinda "suck it up and deal with it" attitude. But, he teaches us alot, and is a real mentor. He is so my hero, and I hope as a jedi, I learn alot from him.


I would give his name, but for hisprivacy sake (and my a55) I wont.


I fear this jedi, and would never want to be on the wrong side of his saber.







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EvilHomerSimpson
Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:50 am
#5

It's the difference between Pre and Post CU sabers. Post CU you need to have 4 - 100+ pearls to compete. W/O that no MLS is gonna be able to beat BHs who are good PvPers, no matter how skilled they are in PvP.



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gera
Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:51 am
#6


Devs know it, we know it, BH know it and some still insisting they are not powerful even having best DPS sabers.






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Atz_Breh
Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:52 am
#7






weaponxr wrote:

what his dmg on his saber?






doesn´t matter, a full templ. jedi should kill any BH even with the crapiest tunes, it´s all about skill...
Atobe
Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:53 am
#8





Jedi_Xan wrote:

How jedi feel that that they are not powerful. I watched a guildmate jedi (mdef/mls enh xxx2/heal 3xxx) take down what was Sunday his 29th straight win against a BH. In none of the fights was he ever in trouble. I have the benefit of hearing him on ventrilo, and he literally wiped the floor with these guys. Ok, well, I am used to seeing this from him. I guess he is just really good at his template... but then, on Saturday, I saw another Jedi with avery different template (not sure of template, but he had powers and enhancer for sure) wipe the floor with a bh. So after deliberating over the events that I watched, I concluded that....


I don't understand why some of you have such a problem against BH's while others don't even sweat them. The problem seems to me that the ability to beat a bh is not in the template? It would appear to me that the ability to kill any given template bh rests strictly in the players abilities. Not in the template they have. So, to put it bluntly, if you cant beat a bh, you just need to practice learning your template.





Well, in reference to the highlighted portions of your post, I'd say the the fundamental key is right there: learn your template, and practice, practice, practice.


(Albeit, the MLS Jedi may also have been using very nice saber, equipped with some sweet pearls.)



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trajen2
Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:57 am
#9






Atz_Breh wrote:

i don´tknow why ppl have problems too...


2nd while helping younglings grinding and spinning a Lair of pickets(didn´t even see the BH )







doesnt this suck? I have died twice to BHs and both times its been Pikets, not the BH, that has beat me. . .





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PhatDhad
Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:58 am
#10

I agree here....I have seen a full temp jedi time and time again....pvp bh till they just gave up his mission...he could not do enough damage with his max dam 460 saber.


He never lost...just never won. if he had a decent saber.......many bh would be dead.


I attribute his never losing to his pvp ability, I salute this jedi for learning his temp and using it to the max...despite his crappy saber.





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Jedi_Xan
Tue Sep 06, 2005 8:59 am
#11






EvilHomerSimpson wrote:
It's the difference between Pre and Post CU sabers. Post CU you need to have 4 - 100+ pearls to compete. W/O that no MLS is gonna be able to beat BHs who are good PvPers, no matter how skilled they are in PvP.






I know that is not true because all his latest sabers are created using pearls he got after CU. I was with him on many of those hunts.


Here is the deal with pearls/crystals. The tunes do come. You tune 100 pearls/crytstals and you will get 4 that are good saber material. It is a numbers game. Don't get 3 or 4 expecting to get an uber saber.




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Atz_Breh
Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:03 am
#12






Jedi_Xan wrote:





EvilHomerSimpson wrote:
It's the difference between Pre and Post CU sabers. Post CU you need to have 4 - 100+ pearls to compete. W/O that no MLS is gonna be able to beat BHs who are good PvPers, no matter how skilled they are in PvP.






I know that is not true because all his latest sabers are created using pearls he got after CU. I was with him on many of those hunts.


Here is the deal with pearls/crystals. The tunes do come. You tune 100 pearls/crytstals and you will get 4 that are good saber material. It is a numbers game. Don't get 3 or 4 expecting to get an uber saber.







are u aware that he can take his preCU pearls from his old saber and put them in the new ones?
majorslappy
Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:05 am
#13

So your sample of data is two people? If I picked two people out of a large group I could "prove" anything. Given good PvP skills and knowledge of any template BH or jedi or any other, a player can play well and fight well and take on opponents much more "powerful" than they.



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