Jedi Archive
Thread: Open letter to the Devs (please read)
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Saruun_Mortuus
Sat Jun 04, 2005 12:26 pm
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Which ones, cause I'm a TKM/Swordsman and retired Pikeman, and none of those hit harder and faster than a Jedi's saber. Sure TKM is faster, but very low damage. Swordsman is higher damage, but low speed, MUCH slower than any saber I've come up a against. (Higher SAC too.) As for pikeman... they definetely don't equate to a decent saber. I will concede that a good melee player can beat and average Jedi in combat, but when two combatants of the same skill battle I'd give it to the Jedi and his lightsaber every time.
I wish you luck in learning how to properly use your Jedi template and weapon, and when you do you'll know what I'm talking about. (And BTW don't ask me about Jedi, I'm not one, I just like to duel them.) My biggest point when responding to your post is that Jedi is designed so you have to pick up certain specializations in order to create your template, the Jedi specializations are not regular professions, they are different branches of the Jedi template. In other words, if you don't have enough defense get some Defender, not enough offense get some Lightsaber, and so on...
Anyway, I understand your frustration, my first mastery was Smuggler...
I wish you luck in learning how to properly use your Jedi template and weapon, and when you do you'll know what I'm talking about. (And BTW don't ask me about Jedi, I'm not one, I just like to duel them.) My biggest point when responding to your post is that Jedi is designed so you have to pick up certain specializations in order to create your template, the Jedi specializations are not regular professions, they are different branches of the Jedi template. In other words, if you don't have enough defense get some Defender, not enough offense get some Lightsaber, and so on...
Anyway, I understand your frustration, my first mastery was Smuggler...
Vehon
Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:49 am
#2
This isn't a debate on weither flurry has exploiters (keeping thought to self) but weither we should have something. Heck even if they fixed the speed mods that would be great.
Zoner2002
Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:56 am
#3
Damian-j wrote:
Opie76 wrote:
Flurry is full of exploited powerhammers and other numerous weaopons right now. Exploited due to transfering servers with a powerup on them. I'm not going to name names, but I've seen the screen shots.
Ho'mer
Screenshots aren't worth crap man, no offence.I mean we ALL saw the screenie where Wahee admitted to exploiting his Lightsaber and PVPing with it. Did he get banned? No he did not. And I am not talking about sploited Hammers, I am talking about regular damage capped Hammers in the hands of a Master Swords who has +25 Gen Melee speed and +25 2 Handed weapon speed. DEADLY COMBO.
Message Edited by Damian-j on 10-20-2005 12:53 AM
Wahee did get banned, just not forever, I agree with what ur saying Vehon, Jedi needs a revamp badly, in what way, only the dev's will decide, but Jedi is not the same profession when we picked it up, I am ashamed of what it has become
cahn-a-licious
Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:59 am
#4
Damian-j wrote:
Saruun_Mortuus wrote:
There are too many Jedi for them to be that powerful. Putting armor/defense in the lightsaber trees would make Lightsaber too powerful. Just my opinion, but I think others share it.
There are alot more BH's than Jedi, and last time I checked they seem to be doing not too badly in the "Powerful" situation. Every Publish only widens the gap further.
but that is fair...."jedi are too strong, there should not be an alpha class." "now i have an alpha class so now it is fair"
amazing how "fair" is when it is to their advantage and "unfair" is to anothers advantage
Saruun_Mortuus
Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:45 am
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Damian-j wrote:
Saruun_Mortuus wrote:
There are too many Jedi for them to be that powerful. Putting armor/defense in the lightsaber trees would make Lightsaber too powerful. Just my opinion, but I think others share it.
There are alot more BH's than Jedi, and last time I checked they seem to be doing not too badly in the "Powerful" situation. Every Publish only widens the gap further.
Wait a second? Widens the gap? If BH were getting more powerful then the gap would be closing. I certainly hope you are not going to argue that a normal full template BH is more powerful that a normal full template Jedi... but if you are don't expect a reply to any response you make here, 'cause I don't think I could stay civil.
Vehon
Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:03 pm
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Dear Devs
I'm not one to post on the Jedi fourms but today I will. The things you have done up till now are good. I don't agree with doctor and CM healing (think they should clock down on the same time when any of them are used.) but that is another story. With the changes to movement and Squad Leader, I think its time to change the profession of Jedi a bit. Something must be changed, like you could give us our 24 skill points back and let us really be Jedi. You could take away force cost from saber specials except saber throw. Putjedi armor and defense in the saber tree (this is my fave because we would be more like a real profession instead of a buffet style) I'll even take letting us use a Power up on our sabers, heck let us make our own or something with LS resources or something. But don't leave us in the dark here.
Jedi is to be something special, for months of work you put into it. Which it can now be over shadowed by someone that grinds for 2 days and has some credits (swordsman, Squad Leaders, Combat Medics). I'm not requesting god mode here, I'm requesting a tweek of some kind.
Example if you were to move Jedi armor, melee, and ranged defense into the lightsaber tree. Then this would open up more stuff for us. Put AI and valor and aura into enhancer and either tweek force armor or remove it from enhancer so it doesn't upset balance. Or take out AI and just put aura and valor in Lightsabers since TK and other professions have center of being. That would leave stuff like enhancer and healer open and those are not over powered. Force armor would need to be tweeked but force run is nerfed, you would have a root and a snare like most professions.
But that is just an example. But our profession needs some kind of payoff instead of a glow stick. Before anyone goes off saying get a better saber or you can't win so you are crying. Check the the address in my sig that is just a fraction of the BH that have gone down and I have one of the better sabers on the server.
Its 3 am so I'm not spelling checking this. Thank you for your attention and good night
darkhalosider
Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:08 pm
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A revamp would be nice so we could have alittle more points to work with or what your suggesting, dont think it will happen as they seemed determined to just kill jedi off. Something for sure needs to be done but until it happens im on break or strike lol. Ill come back if or when they do something that make jedi worth playing until then see ya
Vehon
Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:11 pm
#8
Yeah I'm playing my BH for the loot and that is about it. Only time my jedi will get on is if we are in a place like the Corvette or Avatar.
Damian-j
Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:11 pm
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Vehon you nub, there isn't a server big enough to fitscreenies of all the BH's I've killed over the last 9 months 
But yeah dude I agree, we have been nerfed for a months of Sundays and its about time we got something back. Pre CU Jedi were feared (mostly), now we are laughed at.
Saruun_Mortuus
Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:14 pm
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There are too many Jedi for them to be that powerful. Putting armor/defense in the lightsaber trees would make Lightsaber too powerful. Just my opinion, but I think others share it.
Vehon
Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:18 pm
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I dont' think it would, seeing that most melee professions hit much harder and faster than we ever will. And damian that is why I said its a fraction
lost all my BH kills when I reformated
Message Edited by Vehon on 10-20-2005 12:18 AM
Message Edited by Vehon on 10-20-2005 12:19 AM
darkhalosider
Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:19 pm
#12
You should be powerful, forced pvp makes it where we should be able to take as a full template any average bh. That being said is not the case anymore with armor that 8k uber rifles armor break sliced armor and all the new and upcoming nerfs
Damian-j
Thu Oct 20, 2005 12:19 pm
#13
Saruun_Mortuus wrote:
There are too many Jedi for them to be that powerful. Putting armor/defense in the lightsaber trees would make Lightsaber too powerful. Just my opinion, but I think others share it.
There are alot more BH's than Jedi, and last time I checked they seem to be doing not too badly in the "Powerful" situation. Every Publish only widens the gap further.
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