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Thread: MLS or MDEF

MasterMith
Fri Oct 07, 2005 9:31 am
#1


Can anyone tell me why MLS is better than MDef....at least when you compare it this way:


mdef, ls -444


mls, def 444-



I just don't understand., I only hit slightly faster, but i take alot more damage. I did a test with a buddy and we have very comparable sabers,


AS a Mdef I would have 627 dmage for a power hit, no aura or foods


As a MLS and DEF 4440 he would get 750points of damage.


I am not sure if my testing is vailid but it seems MLS is still not good




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Mythrindir
Fri Oct 07, 2005 9:49 am
#2






MasterMith wrote:


Can anyone tell me why MLS is better than MDef....at least when you compare it this way:


mdef, ls -444


mls, def 444-



I just don't understand., I only hit slightly faster, but i take alot more damage. I did a test with a buddy and we have very comparable sabers,


AS a Mdef I would have 627 dmage for a power hit, no aura or foods


As a MLS and DEF 4440 he would get 750points of damage.


I am not sure if my testing is vailid but it seems MLS is still not good






ranged KD, speed. always factor in aura...



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Rouge_Jedi
Fri Oct 07, 2005 9:54 am
#3

I would also like to know what people think is better...I'm debating right now, whether to keep MDEF or drop it to get MLS.



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Heruler
Fri Oct 07, 2005 9:56 am
#4

i couldnt decide so i took both mls and mdef lol
works nicly for me

MasterMith
Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:36 pm
#5

Is there anyone that can give a good scientific reason as to why MLS is better than MDF or vice versa.


I started some testing and this is what I came up with.


Using similar stats for Lightsaber a guildee and I tested the following.


Power Hit:

Temp 1:MLS Def 4440 Hit for 627 with Aura not turned on.


Temp 2:Mdef LS0444 Hit for 750 with Aura not turned on.


Head Hit

Temp 1: Hit for 546

Temp 2: Hit for 678


Based on that testing it shows that Mdef is the better choice. I think next I will do some testing with Armor break and Aura.






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blademaster30
Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:37 pm
#6

i love def



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DW-Acer
Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:49 pm
#7

no one ever killed a BH with MDef.


want my very simplistic approach?


PvP=MLS, PvE=MDef





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Jediknight2k1
Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:51 pm
#8






MasterMith wrote:


Can anyone tell me why MLS is better than MDef....at least when you compare it this way:


mdef, ls -444


mls, def 444-



I just don't understand., I only hit slightly faster, but i take alot more damage. I did a test with a buddy and we have very comparable sabers,


AS a Mdef I would have 627 dmage for a power hit, no aura or foods


As a MLS and DEF 4440 he would get 750points of damage.


I am not sure if my testing is vailid but it seems MLS is still not good





MLS kills things and MDef doesnt. MLS 444- Def is a very nice combo.




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DW-Acer
Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:51 pm
#9

okay, i'm feeling bad for my slacking answer here.


MLS get more attacks, a ranged KD with good damage, and overall the DPS is greatly increased.


MDef consume less force with heals, absorb more damage, and AI for a small amount of time.


overall, you'll probably see a bigger benefit going with MLS over MDef, unless you're heavy into high-end PvE





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TonieStark
Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:52 pm
#10






DW-Acer wrote:

no one ever killed a BH with MDef.


want my very simplistic approach?


PvP=MLS, PvE=MDef







I have killed BHs with MDEF



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DW-Acer
Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:56 pm
#11






TonieStark wrote:





DW-Acer wrote:

no one ever killed a BH with MDef.


want my very simplistic approach?


PvP=MLS, PvE=MDef







I have killed BHs with MDEF






not what i meant. I meant that the skills given in Master Defender were not responsible for the kill. You have no offensive moves in Defender. I in no way was implying that if you have MDef in your template you can't kill a BH.





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Veng3fulSaint
Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:58 pm
#12






Jediknight2k1 wrote:





MasterMith wrote:


Can anyone tell me why MLS is better than MDef....at least when you compare it this way:


mdef, ls -444


mls, def 444-



I just don't understand., I only hit slightly faster, but i take alot more damage. I did a test with a buddy and we have very comparable sabers,


AS a Mdef I would have 627 dmage for a power hit, no aura or foods


As a MLS and DEF 4440 he would get 750points of damage.


I am not sure if my testing is vailid but it seems MLS is still not good





MLS kills things and MDef doesnt. MLS 444- Def is a very nice combo.





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TonieStark
Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:00 pm
#13






DW-Acer wrote:





TonieStark wrote:





DW-Acer wrote:

no one ever killed a BH with MDef.


want my very simplistic approach?


PvP=MLS, PvE=MDef







I have killed BHs with MDEF






not what i meant. I meant that the skills given in Master Defender were not responsible for the kill. You have no offensive moves in Defender. I in no way was implying that if you have MDef in your template you can't kill a BH.







Got it..sorry ...half asleep right now LOL



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