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Thread: What do you all think about the new debuff system on the expansion test center.

EVILxWARLOCK
Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:24 am
#1








For the most part it makes enhancer useless.


Will remove any type of speed buff doc or enhancer + add the debuff. So you not only have your buff removed but you will have the debuff added on top of that.

1. Snare will remove force run, then the snare will be applied.

2. Any type of weapon speed buff removed, then the speed debuff is applied.


NPCs will be able to do this to you also.

Message Edited by EVILxWARLOCK on 10-12-2005 08:45 AM



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Chillwillzx
Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:42 am
#2
Are you saying force speed or adrenalin buff is removed when you get hit by thyroid rupture?
I can live with snares cancelling force run but if speed buffs are removed too thats just **modbot**ed up.
If this is the case then reapllying your buffs should cancel the snares or debuffs. 



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EVILxWARLOCK
Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:43 am
#3




Chillwillzx wrote:
Are you saying force speed or adrenalin buff is removed when you get hit by thyroid rupture?
I can live with snares cancelling force run but if speed buffs are removed too thats just **modbot**ed up.
If this is the case then reapllying your buffs should cancel the snares or debuffs.




Correct. Also you get the speed debuff on top of that.

Message Edited by EVILxWARLOCK on 10-12-2005 07:44 AM



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enemy that outnumbers us 29:1. They can't get away from us now!"
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Chillwillzx
Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:49 am
#4
OMG ok i think its a good thing other games are coming out soon cause i have a feeling my jedi will be put into hibernation for a couple months till they stop with all these nonsense "fixes". 



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WCjtace
Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:52 am
#5
I don't think that's the way it works, check the tka forum, I think I saw the correspondant there clearing that up. I think that force run is the only one that works that way, the speed buffs and such don't. But more information would be good to find.
VaainEldritch
Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:54 am
#6




EVILxWARLOCK wrote:





Chillwillzx wrote:
Are you saying force speed or adrenalin buff is removed when you get hit by thyroid rupture?
I can live with snares cancelling force run but if speed buffs are removed too thats just **modbot**ed up.
If this is the case then reapllying your buffs should cancel the snares or debuffs.




Correct. Also you get the speed debuff on top of that.

Message Edited by EVILxWARLOCK on 10-12-2005 07:44 AM





That can't be right.


It just... can't.


So one debuff will do all that? That must be a mistake or a "work in progress gaff".


Entire templates, Jedi or not, are built around certain skills and buffs. This will change the entire way combat is fought.


*boggles*





Va'ain

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Qwad
Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:56 am
#7
So they're making force run useless? Good to know.

Anyways.. back to GuildWars.




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sm1550
Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:57 am
#8
If it applies to all buff/debuff combinations, I wonder how well Improved Sap will work against the CM's out there.

Dbizzle5
Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:58 am
#9

So if you are hit with a debuff will reapplying your buff work? Or will you get some message saying you can't? Just seems a lil odd that debuffs are going to be giving that much power. The snare I can live with as a Master Enhancer I can't use force run in battle anyway without a dmg reduction. Thyroid is bad enough with force speed 2 on. I dont even want to imagine what it will be like if it cancels force speed + our broken saber speed.



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Saereth
Wed Oct 12, 2005 7:58 am
#10
as it is the 2+ minute electrolyte drain that can instantly be reapplied totally canceling force run is lame enough.




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Malicious1
Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:00 am
#11

leave it to the devs to read our advise and our corr. and come up with this crapola.


pre-orders cancelled subs cancelled till this is dealt with guess i get to play other games for a few months or always





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Nastypope
Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:00 am
#12
Man wonder what mmo I should start thinking of getting now?



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EvilHomerSimpson
Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:03 am
#13

FR shouldnt be canceled by a snare. Maybe it should be like this:



Snare applied: FR3 becomes FR2, FR2 becomes FR1, FR1 becomes Burstrun.


There really needs to be some perspective on this.



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