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Darkvenegence

Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:19 am

I've been looking at the jedi boards,server boards alot lately,and seems like everyday theres another person who has quit the game,mainly vets and its all for the same reasons,they're unhappy with the way we have been and are being treated by the developers of SWG and the implementation of the CU which in many peoples eyes will be the death of this game

i decided to do some surveys on different server forums,my own kauri,the big 2 ahazi and bria as well as the jedi forums,the survey was asking what peoples preferences were pre-CU or post CU,the answer was almost unanimous,at least 98% of the replies were for pre-CU the occasional chef or something would post and say he/she prefers the CU but that was definetly the exception and not the rule,now,my point is people are leaving the game on a daily basis and the ones that are hanging around for the most part are miserable and dont enjoy what the game has degenerated into,so i ask you this,how much longer will the massive amounts of players who are unhappy keep on paying to play a game that they dont enjoy?,imho its only a matter of time till the massive of amounts of players left that are unhappy wake up one day and decide that this game is no longer worth the money and time it consumes

basically that means we have a major problem,SWG is on a ticking timebomb of destruction unless the devs use their common sense,and realise this,and not only realise it but act on it ASAP to save the loyal players that are left from cancelling their subscriptions,for that to happen some major changes need to be implemented which im going to outline,ill be honest,some of these suggestions are based on personal preference,others are based on what i truly beleive will help save our beloved SWG

in my opinion the CU has brought some good things,mainly bad but some good things too,so my proposal is we get a game that is merged with the good elements of the CU and pre CU combined,ill also state that this list isnt set in any specific order,im just gonna type it as it comes to me

1) fix premiums and flawless to drop so everyone has a fair chance at the brass hoop,franky i dont care if the developers dont want us farming them,we pay to play this game and if we want to farm krayts for high end loot then that should be our decision,not theirs,if thats what we enjoy doing then we should be allowed to

2) give us back the combat queue

3) get rid of the combat level and damage multiplier so we can solo again if we want to,i beleive alot of the resentment towards

SOE now comes from the fact that we've been forced to group to do anything worth doing,no-one likes being forced to do anything or being told what to do

4) get rid of elemental damage or at least bring in ALL the other named crystals,seeing nothing but sunriders and banes hearts is so reduntant now

5) give us back the old combat system,this root and snare system is a joke and makes no sense whatsoever,the speed of it too is mindnumbingly slow,however the one thing that should be kept from this system is the need to use other specials so we dont have to spam dervish over and over,a little variety will make the pre CU system better than its ever been imho

6) bring back TEF's for everthing,this to me was the first step in the wrong direction that SOE took,if a BH jumps my friend,its so unrealistic to expect me to stand there and watch and not do anything about it,also if someone comes to my city covert and kills my NPCs for faction and loot its lame that i cant kill him for it if im overt,if someone makes their faction affilitation so readily apparent then they should be in danger from the enemy,this is supposed to be a war not a carebear fest

7) bring back the FRS asap,beinga full template jedi with nothing to do is the most frustrating thing ever

8 ) i know alot of people are going to flame this but remove jedi from the GCW in favour of light vs dark wars,this would be a fair trade for us having our power returned and it would eliminate us from beating on the little guys,as far as the BH/jedi encounter goes,simply give them back their lightsaber resist PSG's since those would be the only normal proffesion we would need to fight,that way we could still be balanced with them

this is all i can think of for now,im sure ill amend this and update it when i think of more things, and please by all means add suggestions and opinions,but i ask you to please keep the flames to a minumum,we have hundreds of other threads we can flame on without doing it on this one

thank you for reading this,i sincerly hope that the developers heed these words before its too late

Message Edited by Darkvenegence on 09-08-2005 05:05 AM

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Dinchamion

Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:26 am

#2

Uhm... except the first and last... no.

My 2 cents.

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GeckoFighter

Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:28 am

#3

good thoughts, saber tefs might have to be more elaborated on, but i like the ideas and i deffinatly like bringing the old system back

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Darkvenegence

Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:32 am

#4

GeckoFighter wrote:
good thoughts, saber tefs might have to be more elaborated on, but i like the ideas and i deffinatly like bringing the old system back

thats a little hard to gauge right now,for any type of saber TEF to be implemented we would need to know how jedi are going to fit into the GCW when the FRS returns,i.e are we going to be permaovert like we were before,if so then jedi wont need any kind of a tef sincewe will be in essence "perma-tefed"

Message Edited by Darkvenegence on 09-08-2005 02:45 AM

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Soulcaster

Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:21 am

#5

I think they are all good ideas EXCEPT the 1st.

Farming pearls all day so you can have an "uber" (god this word is slutted around now) saber would not be good for the game. I realize there are no premium drops now, but if they brought it back and people were farming it, Jedi would WAY to unballanced with everyone having a 900DPS saber and rediculous dmg, spd, etc. There should only be a few jedi who have rediculous sabers, and this should not be something that once you jedi, you are garaunteed to get.

I dont blame you for wanting a great saber, i mean hell i'd love to have one. But in retrospect to the game...having premiums drop all the time nad seeing 20 jedi killing krayts at any given time would just be retarded and would unbalance the game. surely you see that?

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Darkvenegence

Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:33 am

#6

Soulcaster wrote:

I think they are all good ideas EXCEPT the 1st.

Farming pearls all day so you can have an "uber" (god this word is slutted around now) saber would not be good for the game. I realize there are no premium drops now, but if they brought it back and people were farming it, Jedi would WAY to unballanced with everyone having a 900DPS saber and rediculous dmg, spd, etc. There should only be a few jedi who have rediculous sabers, and this should not be something that once you jedi, you are garaunteed to get.

I dont blame you for wanting a great saber, i mean hell i'd love to have one. But in retrospect to the game...having premiums drop all the time nad seeing 20 jedi killing krayts at any given time would just be retarded and would unbalance the game. surely you see that?

what i see is a massive amount of people who are unhappy with the game now,if balance equals not being able to do what we want for enjoyment then give me an unbalanced game,besides in this scenario we're talking about pre-CU when jedi were decidedly stronger than the average proffesion, and even the worst sabers were to be feared,where was the balance there?..there was none but it equaled fun and enjoyment which is all people really want

on top of that 900 DPS is impossible to get,even with perfect pearls,also i strongly disagree with tigg's statement that the implementation of premium pearls would make jedi stronger globally and instantly,i say big freakin deal,thats what people want,thats what jedi needs because as it stands right now we're dangerously underpowered

dont you see?..everyone was much happier before,as it stands right now SWG is on a countdown to complete and utter shutdown,what would you rather?..the old system that was fun,fast paced,although slightly unbalanced or SWG being gone forever?

Message Edited by Darkvenegence on 09-08-2005 03:38 AM

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RogueLeader05

Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:36 am

#7

1)It's the top issue right now for Jedi & SOE knows.They however are not gonna have them brought back as they were before it appears & actually,maybe have them become a high end quest reward,but even then not have them be farmed.

2)I miss that myself

3)You can still solo a ton of stuff in this game.Groups are also very fun & a must to keep around or places like the DWB won't be what it once was.Join a Guild or get regular Hunting parties with friends.

4)I agree on allowing a new crystal to become the craze & brought into the game via quest rewards or high end rare random loot.1 new kind each month.

5)Old system was great,needed a few things to improve upon/combat spam to go bye bye,but overall should've been just focused on with fixes because CU,to this day,is still bugged up itself

6)We should not be able to jump in a fight with a Bounty Hunter whos trying to bring his mark to justice in this game.If you want that back,then i'm sure the Bounty Hunters would love for Saber TEF back.That way,if you want to help out your friend in public,then everyone around you should have the chance to pounce on you as well.

7)FRS?.....Bah,another myth

Message Edited by RogueLeader05 on 09-08-2005 03:36 AM

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Darkvenegence

Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:43 am

#8

RogueLeader05 wrote:

1)It's the top issue right now for Jedi & SOE knows.They however are not gonna have them brought back as they were before it appears & actually,maybe have them become a high end quest reward,but even then not have them be farmed.

2)I miss that myself

3)You can still solo a ton of stuff in this game.Groups are also very fun & a must to keep around or places like the DWB won't be what it once was.Join a Guild or get regular Hunting parties with friends.

4)I agree on allowing a new crystal to become the craze & brought into the game via quest rewards or high end rare random loot.1 new kind each month.

Message Edited by RogueLeader05 on 09-08-2005 03:36 AM

maybe soloing some things is possible,but it takes forever,besides my point is no-one likes having to get regular groups together to do anything,as it stands right now the only thing that drops good loot is necrosis,i resent the fact that i need a group to kill him,if anything else dropped good loot and i needed a group to kill it we would resent that too,it isnt fair to make us depend on each other for enjoyment because the vast majority of the time it just isnt possible to get a reliable group together,and you end up doing nothing,im sure everyone would prefer being stronger so we can things when we want instead of standing around doing nothing,which i find myself doing alot of the time,alot of the goodbye posts ive read have echoed these opinions

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RogueLeader05

Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:54 am

#9

Darkvenegence wrote:

maybe soloing some things is possible,but it takes forever,besides my point is no-one likes having to get regular groups together to do anything,as it stands right now the only thing that drops good loot is necrosis,i resent the fact that i need a group to kill him,if anything else dropped good loot and i needed a group to kill it we would resent that too,it isnt fair to make us depend on each other for enjoyment because the vast majority of the time it just isnt possible to get a reliable group together,and you end up doing nothing,im sure everyone would prefer being stronger so we can things when we want instead of standing around doing nothing,which i find myself doing alot of the time,alot of the goodbye posts ive read have echoed these opinions

I added more feedback,but DWB has more incentive to group up and play in than Necrosis.Jetpacks/Mandalorian armor.......High end loot to obtain along the way.

The only person to ever be able to fight General Grevious and stand a chance was the Chosen One (The Most Powerful Jedi ever) with Obi-Wan Kenobi(2 people who have been the only 1s to ever defeat a Sith Lord in thelast 1000 yrs)& then Kenobi went on to defeat him (solo) later on.The fact remains that he was the most feared Jedi killer before Vader enters the scene & should not be abled to be solo'd.

Only reason Kenobi did such a feat is because he was a Jedi Master (none exist right now,everyone is a Padawan in this game at moment) who was a member of the Council & most likely 1 of the 3 best jedi,ever.

You also want to force people into PVP it sounds,yet you claim to call for wanting to be allowed to solo in this game......Which is it?How are you gonna solo NPC's for fun & loot if a group of 8 or so come along by chance and jump you,forcing you into PVP?

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KingoftheGrind

Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:01 am

#10

/agree on everything except the first and last . Pearls should never be flawless again , it will definatly unbalance the game, an occasional premuim from krayte ancients would be ok though .

" DO NOT bring back the FRS untill it is fully designed to be the coolest thing ever. I am hoping for fun and content as i make my way to master jedi " .

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Darkvenegence

Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:07 am

#11

RogueLeader05 wrote:

Darkvenegence wrote:

maybe soloing some things is possible,but it takes forever,besides my point is no-one likes having to get regular groups together to do anything,as it stands right now the only thing that drops good loot is necrosis,i resent the fact that i need a group to kill him,if anything else dropped good loot and i needed a group to kill it we would resent that too,it isnt fair to make us depend on each other for enjoyment because the vast majority of the time it just isnt possible to get a reliable group together,and you end up doing nothing,im sure everyone would prefer being stronger so we can things when we want instead of standing around doing nothing,which i find myself doing alot of the time,alot of the goodbye posts ive read have echoed these opinions

I added more feedback,but DWB has more incentive to group up and play in than Necrosis.Jetpacks/Mandalorian armor.......High end loot to obtain along the way.

The only person to ever be able to fight General Grevious and stand a chance was the Chosen One (The Most Powerful Jedi ever) with Obi-Wan Kenobi(2 people who have been the only 1s to ever defeat a Sith Lord in thelast 1000 yrs)& then Kenobi went on to defeat him (solo) later on.The fact remains that he was the most feared Jedi killer before Vader enters the scene & should not be abled to be solo'd.

Only reason Kenobi did such a feat is because he was a Jedi Master (none exist right now,everyone is a Padawan in this game at moment) who was a member of the Council & most likely 1 of the 3 best jedi,ever.

You also want to force people into PVP it sounds,yet you claim to call for wanting to be allowed to solo in this game......Which is it?How are you gonna solo NPC's for fun & loot if a group of 8 or so come along by chance and jump you,forcing you into PVP?

Message Edited by RogueLeader05 on 09-08-2005 03:57 AM

all valid points and well thought out for sure my friend,however this game threw star wars continuity out the window when the first jedi unlocked,people seem to care more about what equals enjoyable gameplay and is money well spent for their online gaming experience than thinking that they really shouldnt be able to dosolo something likenecrosisbecause they arent one of the best 3 jedi ever in the star wars galaxies,besides,necrosis is dead,i wanna solo his clone not him

Message Edited by Darkvenegence on 09-08-2005 04:08 AM

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destrkta

Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:08 am

#12

If your intention is to bring back premium pearls and everyone or almost everyone havea perfect sabre then the cap's on normal weapons should all be raised by at least 200min/max dmg to compensate, the best thing that sabres having going for it that nothing else does is the huge minimum dmg meaning defences on high end mob's and defence stackers means nothing to them. Who cares about the max dmg when ur min dmg is so high.

If premium pearls are to drop again to balance this minimum damgage should not be included in pearls/crystals but instead during crafting you should be able to reach 450min dmg( same as every other weapon) opposed to 700min, hell i would love a rifle with 700min unfortunately they don't exist.

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on the note of high end loot dropping yes i agree bring back exceptional level loot weapons!!!

Message Edited by destrkta on 09-08-2005 10:09 PM

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RogueLeader05

Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:22 am

#13

Darkvenegence wrote:

all valid points and well thought out for sure my friend,however this game threw star wars continuity out the window when the first jedi unlocked,people seem to care more about what equals enjoyable gameplay and is money well spent for their online gaming experience than thinking that they really shouldnt be able to dosolo something likenecrosisbecause they arent one of the best 3 jedi ever in the star wars galaxies,besides,necrosis is dead,i wanna solo his clone not him

Message Edited by Darkvenegence on 09-08-2005 04:08 AM

Thanks.Yes,i agree,that more......ALOT more content needs to be added to this game

You mention that you would like to solo his clone though & not him in the logic that his clone would be weaker in some respect,but in following with this game,you yourself should already be a clone of your former self by now

"Continuity" you say in respect to the population of Jedi......Agreed,however that can be addressed easily by SOE if they would only change the Timeline to what it should've been all along.......Set during the time between ep3 & ep4 where many Jedi were in fact still around & being hunted down in this 20 yr time frame.In fact,the Live Star Wars T.V series that will be coming out is set in this time frame as well.

I still don't know why SOE has us set in the time where only 3 yrs go by & no Jedi are around,save for a couple.1 more yr and this game itself is at the 3 yr mark,then what,go into the time of Return of the Jedi or will they finally go into the time frame where they should've been all along

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