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Thread: ANOTHER Idea about Perma-Death

Soulcaster
Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:38 am
#1

Ok hear me out here. Because i know 90% of you will not like this idea. LOL


Ok BHsget 3 types of missions on their terminals instead of just 2. The original two are either Jedi missions and NPC missions of course. Here is my idea for a 3rd BH mission type from the terminals.


BHs can now get a 2nd type of Jedi mission. This jedi mission is unique. This 2nd type of Jedi mission will be a perma-death mission. Once a BH accepts a jedi's mission...all other missions on the terminal will be removed, no questions asked. Therefore there will be NO way of having multiple BHs after you. Now, a BH can hunt jedi one on one. If the BH kills the Jedi, the jedi is dead (after having died 3x to one of these BH Perma-death missions), gone from the game forever. His name can never be re-used in another character and his character becomes a blue glowie on the character selection screen, never to come into the game again. Now for the kicker.....if the BH dies, and the jedi kills the BH...the BH will lose his character in the same manner. The BH will be perma-dead. All items, weapons, etc will be lost on a dead character. (and an adorn will be given of any player that someone perma-deaths. IE: "...has slain the mighty Kryptis Soulcaster.")


* Only jedi who have MAXED their visibility will show up on this perma-death terminal.

* Only jedi who have full temp jedi and have 0-5 sps left over will be able to make it on this terminal mission.

* For clarification: You get 3 deaths from this perma-death idea, before you are gone for good.

* BHs will be able to collect a $300,000 reward for succesfully killing a jedi under this "perma-death mission type"

....however JEDI will collect the $300,000 bounty from a BH if the jedi kills the BH, and will be able to "loot" the corpse for this cash.


This is a good idea for a few reasons i think, and a bad idea for a few reasons as well.


Good things about this idea:

- This is an OPTION BHs have...so they do not HAVE TO take these perma-death misisons if they dont want to.

- Will give the BHs new missions and exciting content

- Will give Jedi new content and a reason to kill the BHs...this will give jedi the ability to save their character and eliminate the top BHs from the game.

- You get 3 permadeath mission deaths, before you are gone for good, not just a one shot deal.

- new PvP content to the game.

- Fights will be 1 on 1. no other way around it.


Problems with this idea:

- Good items from the game may be lost forever if a BH has themon him, and then the jedi kills him...his uber rifle may be lost forever, etc.

- Jedi have no way of knowing which BH has their "perma-death" mission or their regular mission...which give the BH an extreme edge.




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TruGhostFaceOfBestine
Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:46 am
#2

you're kidding right?




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wvsom
Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:47 am
#3

Give it up....


Perma Death will never return in any shape or form.





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Soulcaster
Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:51 am
#4

Lol i think this is a great idea =)


Just think, you'll be able to kill off those pesky BHs





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Kakov
Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:53 am
#5

I'm not sure that this idea will be welcomed by either side. I certainly don't like the idea of perma-death, especially from forced PvP.

How would u have a perma-death on a normal account? Would that inturn delete the character from the server, and would they then have to start a character from scratch? How would this affect things like structure and/or factories/harvesters?


I hope that the Devs don't give this serious thought, cos i wouldn't like it to happen...





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CURBhater
Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:54 am
#6

Forced PVP= Awesome
Perma-death = Lame




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Soulcaster
Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:59 am
#7

I realize the Forced PvP is a bit crappy, i haven't over looked that fact. But you will be given the chance to perminantly kill off BHs.


Also, when a character dies (under my idea here) you WILL be given another unlock to start another character over again from scratch of course.


The harvestors and houses, etc could be a problem. Perhaps once you die you will be able to enter the name of a character that can acess all of yoru stuff. And you can even access the name of a character that isn't in the game yet. This way, when u die, you can enter the name "Hanz" and hten any character with that name can access your old houses and harvestors. This way you can then create a second character "hanz" and still get all of ur houses and items back...just not any items that were on the dead character.



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Soulcaster
Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:05 am
#8


How about if a System Message appeared when a BH accepted your "perma-death" mission???


Some of you might think that this wouldn't give the BH 1st strike advantage...but it still does, since u dont know WHO has ur mission. Plus it would tip you off to the fact that Force PvP might be coming...and it will give u a chance to prepare for a possible final battle. (ie: get anything important off of u). This might eliviate "forced PvP"


You guys like that idea better? Or without knowing the system messgage?


Please keep in mind the fact that i said you can only get perma-death missions against you when u MAX out ur Visibility. And are a full temp. So if you mangaged to stay off the terms or keep low vis, you wouldn't ever have to worry about this.


Message Edited by Soulcaster on 10-14-2005 10:07 AM



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TehTeleCaSteR
Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:09 am
#9


Sorry but um... This idea sucks




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Bountyzhunter
Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:13 am
#10

no, just no, permadeath is, always was, and always will be an incredibly stupid idea in *ANY* mmo. You dont build your character for months and years for it to just go poof.



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EvilAztec
Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:18 am
#11

The only problem with this (other than the fact that it deletes a character) is the following math:


Jedi = 6+ months to get Padwan + grind time and we're not in Dbl XP la-la-land


BH = at most 3 weeks (if you're lazy) grind time


BH will also transfer money/uber items tosecondary character(s) and use slightly less uber gear, unless their ego is astounding.


I like my option better (clicky in sig) because it move the penalty for Vis enforcement to the system, and still lets BH have their own little PvP system. Not only that but it also fixes the GCW mess while giving us content in it that matters equally.





Soulcaster wrote:

Ok hear me out here. Because i know 90% of you will not like this idea. LOL


Ok BHsget 3 types of missions on their terminals instead of just 2. The original two are either Jedi missions and NPC missions of course. Here is my idea for a 3rd BH mission type from the terminals.


BHs can now get a 2nd type of Jedi mission. This jedi mission is unique. This 2nd type of Jedi mission will be a perma-death mission. Once a BH accepts a jedi's mission...all other missions on the terminal will be removed, no questions asked. Therefore there will be NO way of having multiple BHs after you. Now, a BH can hunt jedi one on one. If the BH kills the Jedi, the jedi is dead (after having died 3x to one of these BH Perma-death missions), gone from the game forever. His name can never be re-used in another character and his character becomes a blue glowie on the character selection screen, never to come into the game again. Now for the kicker.....if the BH dies, and the jedi kills the BH...the BH will lose his character in the same manner. The BH will be perma-dead. All items, weapons, etc will be lost on a dead character. (and an adorn will be given of any player that someone perma-deaths. IE: "...has slain the mighty Kryptis Soulcaster.")


* Only jedi who have MAXED their visibility will show up on this perma-death terminal.

* Only jedi who have full temp jedi and have 0-5 sps left over will be able to make it on this terminal mission.

* For clarification: You get 3 deaths from this perma-death idea, before you are gone for good.

* BHs will be able to collect a $300,000 reward for succesfully killing a jedi under this "perma-death mission type"

....however JEDI will collect the $300,000 bounty from a BH if the jedi kills the BH, and will be able to "loot" the corpse for this cash.


This is a good idea for a few reasons i think, and a bad idea for a few reasons as well.


Good things about this idea:

- This is an OPTION BHs have...so they do not HAVE TO take these perma-death misisons if they dont want to.

- Will give the BHs new missions and exciting content

- Will give Jedi new content and a reason to kill the BHs...this will give jedi the ability to save their character and eliminate the top BHs from the game.

- You get 3 permadeath mission deaths, before you are gone for good, not just a one shot deal.

- new PvP content to the game.

- Fights will be 1 on 1. no other way around it.


Problems with this idea:

- Good items from the game may be lost forever if a BH has themon him, and then the jedi kills him...his uber rifle may be lost forever, etc.

- Jedi have no way of knowing which BH has their "perma-death" mission or their regular mission...which give the BH an extreme edge.










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Vegitaa
Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:20 am
#12

Permadeath will never return because in the current system my Jedi is my original character not a 2nd character slot.


When permadeath was in-game it was not as bad because your Jedi was your Alt, not your original toon.


No way in hell would the Dev's get away with perma-killing a toon that someone has had since launch. If we were still using our 2nd slot as our Jedi then maybe it could return but I know I've been playing my toon since day 3. If they ever introduced permadeath on that character I would quit the day I see it in the test center patch notes.





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AtamPolaris
Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:40 am
#13

never gonna happen, everyone that loses would cancel their account
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