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Thread: msaber nerfed, mheal nerfed, mdef nerfed, mpowers nerfed, menh? NEXT
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freak88
Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:31 pm
#1
so as we move along to nerf the next jedi professsion, menh, and stasis, a 45 second root. how do you feel about this? you know its coming, a 45 second root? every other jedi master box has become worthless and nerfed, now its menh s turn.
how do you think it will happen, a huge force cost/self imposed "snare like the rest ? lets be honset here, if cloak and run was a bad thing, and ai and run was a bad thing, what h3ll is stasis "45 second root/headstart" and force 3 considered?
that a awful lot of imbalance there i have to say. you see my professions have already been nerfed.
but to watch a jedi throw a stasis on a bh , or a jedi, or a regular profession, and simply force run 3 away, is ridiculous.
menh is the only master box without a self imposed snare, guess whats up on deck next. you have to admit tho, it is far worse then any of the other ones, it is a automatic getaway. i see it already, huge force usage plus a snare.
LexMythero
Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:35 pm
#2
I hate to say it but its probably true. Well now we can blame you for bringing it up.
ApostleBishop
Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:39 pm
#4
freak88 wrote:
so as we move along to nerf the next jedi professsion, menh, and stasis, a 45 second root. how do you feel about this? you know its coming, a 45 second root? every other jedi master box has become worthless and nerfed, now its menh s turn.
how do you think it will happen, a huge force cost/self imposed "snare like the rest ? lets be honset here, if cloak and run was a bad thing, and ai and run was a bad thing, what h3ll is stasis "45 second root/headstart" and force 3 considered?
that a awful lot of imbalance there i have to say. you see my professions have already been nerfed.
but to watch a jedi throw a stasis on a bh , or a jedi, or a regular profession, and simply force run 3 away, is ridiculous.
menh is the only master box without a self imposed snare, guess whats up on deck next. you have to admit tho, it is far worse then any of the other ones, it is a automatic getaway. i see it already, huge force usage plus a snare.
I will be honest to say dont post stuff like this until you actually do research on your topic to see first. Master Enhancer is bugged, and has been nerfed several times before defender. Stratis , speed, FR3 was just nerfed less than a month ago. So to answer your question!! NO master enhancer ha gotton the nerf bat far too many times. Not to leave out anything, but it got some love just to say "this is going to hurt me worser than it will hurt you.
KJFett3
Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:40 pm
#5
MEnh was nerfed first. It doesn't have any reason to be next. It has been nerfed more than any other class I bet.
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xEPICx
Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:40 pm
#6
freak88 wrote:
so as we move along to nerf the next jedi professsion, menh, and stasis, a 45 second root. how do you feel about this? you know its coming, a 45 second root? every other jedi master box has become worthless and nerfed, now its menh s turn.
how do you think it will happen, a huge force cost/self imposed "snare like the rest ? lets be honset here, if cloak and run was a bad thing, and ai and run was a bad thing, what h3ll is stasis "45 second root/headstart" and force 3 considered?
that a awful lot of imbalance there i have to say. you see my professions have already been nerfed.
but to watch a jedi throw a stasis on a bh , or a jedi, or a regular profession, and simply force run 3 away, is ridiculous.
menh is the only master box without a self imposed snare, guess whats up on deck next. you have to admit tho, it is far worse then any of the other ones, it is a automatic getaway. i see it already, huge force usage plus a snare.
So by your logic.. Concussion shot would have to be nerfed too right?
concussion shot + burst run = oh noez?!
Message Edited by xEPICx on 09-22-2005 05:42 PM
freak88
Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:40 pm
#7
i lost mdef, which mainly was for grouped pve. now its worthless. i wasnt a cloaker, but i really didnt like it because it was like bringing back the old "covert" status, that i thought we got rid of. you know, 1 sf, regular profession, 10 cloakers waiting gank squad. samething as the old 1 over, grouped with 19 coverts, i dont miss that at alll.
as a matter of fact, you should either be sf, or on leave, or nuetral. what the h3ll is this combatant nanny nanny boo boo crap?
while 50 sf players watch 1 caombatant shoot their turrets out. thats is so wrong.
Nezodon
Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:43 pm
#8
Ive stopped grinding my jedi i dont have a clue what skills to take any more because i was 2 box's off master powers till my template got nerf'ed and made usless and i cant be bothered to finish master powers because it is now horribly gimped, yes it was gimped before though with cloak it had tactics now its just an alpha strike followed followd by getting a pounding and them getting killed because powers jedi sacrafice defences for this template.
I have no doubt enhancer will be made usless again it seems nerfing is all the devs know how to do and it also seems other players enjoy watching other professions get nerf'ed until its their profession in the sights then its an outcry, when people except these nerf's even on other professions youexcept the nerf's to your professions when they have to balance the gimped skill with other players.
I managed to log on for a totalof 5 minutes today and realised i have several things i can do, stand around looking pretty with my smuggler waiting for someone to want something or grind my jedi. Ive ground out all but a few box's on my jedi and looking at how much i need to regrind to change my template i just cant be bothered with any more.
Right now im realising that they have no intention no make this game anything other than a grindfest and if you grind out a template which you can use and you enjoy they will alter it to keep you grinding to take away at a new profession and im working to pay for this game not play this game to work.
I also think nerf's will hit lightsaber still and their is still alot of defender they can nerf too, trust me they wont stop now its the only way they can implement jedi since they are a pvp professions rather than one based on content and RP, but people arnt willing to see this so lets just watch as this whole game inevitably spirals into death.
ventilador
Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:01 pm
#9
we grinded our master box,
we got what we deserve, why nerfing it?
freak88
Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:11 pm
#10
i ground my msaber , and mdef box, why did it get nerfed, I DUNNO,
right now menh has a i win getaway, a 45 second root stasis, and force 3 getaway, im sure the bh s are happy about this.
i no longer care about nerfs anymore, everything i played for, made collected, has all been destroyed, made useless, nerfed, poofed, or simply had a snare applied to it. LOL
i no longer try to do anything to advance my toon in game, no matter what i do, it will just get the nerf bat anyway.
meanwhile over at WOW, im having a great time.
Opie76
Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:44 pm
#11
THe Devs already see Enhancer skills as Escape abilities. There is no reason to nerf this . SO quit bringing this up. YOu guys are freaking retarded to keep brining up nerf calls. I and other Jedi report Jedi nerf calls on BH boards and they get deleted. Now we have our own jedi askiing or suggestiong nerfs. I smell BH in disguise.
MsNiL
Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:44 pm
#12
Why people people missed that Master Enhancer is the most nerfed of all Jedi professions?
I mean, are you blind?
Not only are they the most frequently nerfed Discipline,t hey are the most frequently nerfed profession in the entire game.
Not even Healer had as much powers nerfed as Enhancer have so far.
mdef and mpow... god... you had it easy.
Nerf List, Enhancer Edition (only post-cu)
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Channel Force.............check (cooldown increased, and indirectly nerfed with the mindcost for heals)
Force Armor.................check (protection reduced from +45% to +28%)
Force Drain..................check (cooldown trippled)
Force Meditate.............check (must sit down to meditate)
Force Run....................check (severly reduced in speed and added 15 % action, ForceRun1 no longer available)
Force Shield................check (protection reduced from +45% to +28%)
Force Speed................check (reduced from 25% to 20%)
Force Suppression......check (Added mind/action cost)Force Wave.................check (Added mind/action cost)
Stasis...........................check (Added mind/action cost and 20sec "rage" cooldown)
Transfer Force.............check (cooldown trippled)
Not Yet Nerfed List, Enhancer Edition
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Force Absorb
Force Feedback
Force Resist BleedingForce Resist Disease
Force Resist Poison
Force Resist States
Regain Conciousness
Defender: ***bwaaah, i had avoid incap nerfed***
Wielder: ***bwaaah, i had cloak nerfed***
Enhancer: Guys, I got 11 of my powers nerfed.
Seriously... Jedi need no more nerfs, but dont believe you are the worst nerfed just becouse you had snare added to one of your powers.
Message Edited by MsNiL on 09-23-2005 03:00 AM
Skwall
Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:58 pm
#13
MsNiL wrote:
Defender: ***bwaaah, i had avoid incap nerfed***
Wielder: ***bwaaah, i had cloak nerfed***
Enhancer: Guys, I got 11 of my powers nerfed.
Seriously... Jedi need no more nerfs, but dont believe you are the worst nerfed just becouse you had snare added to one of your powers.
Right, because Defender or Wielder were good pre-CU right???
Not to mention that Enhancer has the most moves out of any tree I believe, other than lightsaber but then again you only use 4-5 moves at most from there.
Defender has 4 moves, Taunt (worthless), AI (meh), Valor (meh), Aura (great but easily dabbled). And if you've forgotten Aura was also nerfed leaving 1 useless move and Valor.
Weilder, well lets not talk about wielder....
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