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Thread: LS Crafting Tool [0.00, 5 or 20 Guaranteed Critical Assemblies] how thats works, what that do ?
Setth wrote:
LS Crafting Tool [0.00, 5 or 20 Guaranteed Critical Assemblies] how thats works, what that do ?
how much diference that do when i craft mine saber wich it ?
How much this worth ?
Worth a lot, pretty rare due to the limited amount given at that phase. Not many people have concrete numbers w/ these tools due the rarity of them, so it might be interesting. I'd say it'd be marginal at best.
Noordy wrote:
Well I have (2) different ones that I obtained with my crafter alt. +5 Critical Assemblyand a +20 Critical Experimentation
(at least I think that is what they are called).
I do not have concrete numbers for you as I am not willing to waste their uses for testing purposes and I have not crafted enough lightsabers in a controlled environment to give any basis or stats to go by.
I have used both now at different stages of my LS crafting.
The +5 Critical Assembly allowed for a better 'assembly' during the crafting. The base stats for the saber (before experimentation) were higher than the base stats of the saber I crafted using the same exact resources in the same crafting location and a normal +14.9 LS crafting tool.
The +20 Critical Experimentation gave me all Amazing Success experimentation results when I used it. From reading I understand that these 'amazing successes' may actually be something more than amazing, but from my limited uses so far, I do not find that to be the case.
I have used the +20 Crit. Exper. in two different locations.
1) In a research city + Bespine + best resources in my galaxy + LS crafting suit (+22 I think)
2) In a non-research city + No bespine + very good (not the best) resources
In both cases, the experimentation on the lightsaber gave amazing successes.
I hope this sheds a little light on the issue, albeit with no concrete numbers.
-Noordy
what u make wrong to not get +20 Critical Assembly ?
Can u give me some tips about how get a +20 Critical Assembly and +20 Critical Experimentation ?
All i know is that
CM - Technique - Quharek (5247, -4032) - LS Crafting Tool [0.00, 5 or 20 Guaranteed Critical Assemblies]
**Must have Novice Artisan**
Note this quest is capped, only the first X people may take the quest
[For exact step by step instructions with pictures check out this]
Contribute 10 Items (Reinforced Wall Module, Small Turret and Refined X count as items) to the village crafting project. To contribute, get a schematic, or check the status, talk to the binary load lifter droid QT-QC [Located at (5193, -4196)]. This is where those unstackable resource loots from Sith are used. It seems the bare minimum will be 200 resources. These resources are found are from looting Sith (so talk to people doing combat missions), additionally anyone who did the Eozlin Survey quest this phase should have gotten 7 of them as well (one per successful survey). As of yet no rewards have been handed out.
Reinforced Wall Module: 10 Similar Endrine Ore, 10 Similar Rudic Ore, [optional] 1 Reinforced Wall Module
Small Turret: 1 Turret Hardware, 1 Turret Electronics
Turret Electronics: 5 Similar Rudic Ore, 10 Similar Ardanium II Energy, [optional] 1 Turret Electronics
Turret Hardware: 5 Similar Endrine Ore
Refined Ardanium II: 20 Similar Ardanium II Energy
Refined Endrine: 20 Similar Endrine Ore
Refined Rudic: 20 Similar Rudic Ore
Village Defenses: 1 Refined Endrine, 1 Refined Rudic, 1 Refined Ardanium II, 1 Reinforced Wall Module, 1 Small Turret[Note, this item is uncraftable]
The reward seems to have 20 uses if you won a category (most quality or quantity overall, most quality or quantity on a single item) and 5 uses if you didn't. According to what I've read, a Critical Success is above Amazing, and may allow you to go over hard caps, may only affect one line, may affect all of them, still waiting to here back from people actually using them.
CM - Experimentation - Quharek (5292, -4108) - LS Crafting Tool [0.00, 5 or 20 Guaranteed Critical Assemblies]
**Must have Novice Artisan**
Note this quest is capped, only the first X people may take the quest
Contribute 20 Items to the village crafting project. To contribute, get a schematic, or check the status, talk to the binary load lifter droid QT-QC [Located at (5193, -4196)]. This is where those unstackable resource loots from Sith are used. It seems the bare minimum will be 200 resources. These resources are found are from looting Sith (so talk to people doing combat missions), additionally anyone who did the Eozlin Survey/Luck quest this phase should have gotten 7 of them as well (one per successful survey). We believe that rewards will be handed out at phase shift, if you win a category (Quantity/Quality) your reward will have more uses. Using a component back in itself improves its quality, but does not cause the component to count as 2 items (Have had some reports of this not working with Unit Computers).
Power Supply: 2 Similar Ostrine Ore, 3 Similar Endrine Ore, 5 Similar Wind Crystal Energy, [optional] 1 Power Supply
Primary Computer: 4 Similar Rudic Ore, 3 Similar Ardanium II Energy, 3 Similar Wind Crystal Energy, [optional] 1 Primary Computer
Regulator: 5 Similar Rudic Ore, 5 Similar Ostrine Ore, [optional] 1 Regulator
Shield Connections: 10 Similar Ostrine Ore
Shield Housing: 5 Similar Endrine Ore, 4 Similar Rudic Ore
Unit Computer: 4 Similar Rudic Ore, 6 Similar Ardanium II Energy, [optional] 1 Unit Computer
Endrost Alloy: 8 Similar Endrine Ore, 1 Ostrine Ore, 1 Wind Crystal Energy
Village Shields:1 Endrost Alloy, 1 Shield Housing, 1 Power Supply, 1 Unit Computer, 1 Regulator, 1 Shield Connections, 1 Primary Computer[Note, this item is uncraftable]
I think that critical assemblies is not more than amazing success on assembly. I get amazing quite often having force assembly trained. It's more worth the amazing success in the experimentation.
Opith
what u make wrong to not get +20 Critical Assembly ?
Can u give me some tips about how get a +20 Critical Assembly and +20 Critical Experimentation ?
I personally use the Assembly tool and it did absolutely nothing for me. It did not raise the percents, nor did it improve stats on the assembly.
The experimentation one is the one you want and the one that is worthwhile.
If you get an assembly one sell it for all you can
how much would on cost?
Sidalo wrote:
I personally use the Assembly tool and it did absolutely nothing for me. It did not raise the percents, nor did it improve stats on the assembly.
The experimentation one is the one you want and the one that is worthwhile.
If you get an assembly one sell it for all you can
GBLoneWolf wrote:
how much would on cost?
what u make wrong to not get +20 Critical Assembly ?
Can u give me some tips about how get a +20 Critical Assembly and +20 Critical Experimentation ?
The original idea i believe was that the critical success tools were in fact supposed to give you a "critical success". A critical success as was discovered by several armor and weaponsmiths actually means that your craft will break the caps that the resources you use have set.. But the problem with these tools is that both of these tools will only guarantee you "Amazing Successes". I guess a critical success was supposed to give a similar resultto the new resource % buffs you can get from entertainers.
Setth wrote:
what u make wrong to not get +20 Critical Assembly ?
Can u give me some tips about how get a +20 Critical Assembly and +20 Critical Experimentation ?
Umm.. Dont you get the +20 use tools for being the Overall winner for Quality or Quantity for the phase?
And the +5 use tool is if you have won (quality/quantity)in any one category?
Kiarna Jinx
Message Edited by Kiarna on 09-20-2005 12:14 PM