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Thread: 31 tunes -synopsis of results

Andreil
Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:53 am
#1

Tuned 23 good pearls and 8 fair crystals.


Best tune 96 -.25 -6fc(good pearl)



Three tunes over 90 damage(pearls)


5 tunes over 80 damage(pearls)


All fairs tuned to total crap-I have had some luck with these before but not tonight.



Tuned at a force shrine while meditating with the paddy robes on.



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Kev0r
Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:55 am
#2






Andreil wrote:


Tuned at a force shrine while meditating with the paddy robes on.






Hehe, first time I tried this old rumour, pre CU, I got a 50/50 -9FC and I was convinced it was true. But 15 or so premium tunes later, and one got to -2/-2 0FC....so pretty sure it doesn't help


Otherwise, nice post. Too many of the crybaby jedi here moan that good tunes are impossible. I dunno about anyone else, but +90 tunes sound good to me



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Andreil
Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:01 am
#3

Yeah I was happy-espeacilly with the good tune-that was the only one good enough to go in the saber. My saber is post cu and and pretty good. 630 damage and I forgot the speed but really quick all my tunes in it are -.2 or better and 24FC. I know it doesn't compare to a perfect one at all but pretty good for what drops now



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Elisar
Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:06 am
#4






Kev0r wrote:





Andreil wrote:


Tuned at a force shrine while meditating with the paddy robes on.






Hehe, first time I tried this old rumour, pre CU, I got a 50/50 -9FC and I was convinced it was true. But 15 or so premium tunes later, and one got to -2/-2 0FC....so pretty sure it doesn't help


Otherwise, nice post. Too many of the crybaby jedi here moan that good tunes are impossible. I dunno about anyone else, but +90 tunes sound good to me





not when you consider that most pre-cu jedi are packina set of 120+ -9 sabers.. thus often outdamaging post -CU jedi by 100pts or more. And we wont discuss the SAC cost on those sabers... this time. Pre-cu jedi may have tuned dozens of pearls to get their perfect sabers... but we post CU will likely tune hundreds if not thousand to get anywhere NEAR the damage they put out.


See, for a little perspective, I do pretty darn well in 1v1 combat... with ANYONE... i dont always win and sometimes get beaten in short order.... BUT when a pre-cu jedi can hot a master defender 4 times and he's incapped... while running aura AND healing and buffed.. and doped up.... something is just plain wrong.


We NEED those pearls to drop again. And we need to adjust the HAM and force cost of SABER attacks as well.



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Kev0r
Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:11 am
#5






Elisar wrote:


not when you consider that most pre-cu jedi are packina set of 120+ -9 sabers.. thus often outdamaging post -CU jedi by 100pts or more. And we wont discuss the SAC cost on those sabers... this time. Pre-cu jedi may have tuned dozens of pearls to get their perfect sabers... but we post CU will likely tune hundreds if not thousand to get anywhere NEAR the damage they put out.


See, for a little perspective, I do pretty darn well in 1v1 combat... with ANYONE... i dont always win and sometimes get beaten in short order.... BUT when a pre-cu jedi can hot a master defender 4 times and he's incapped... while running aura AND healing and buffed.. and doped up.... something is just plain wrong.


We NEED those pearls to drop again. And we need to adjust the HAM and force cost of SABER attacks as well.





I agree, but until the FRS hits this won't be an issue. The only issue for me regarding pearls and crystals right now is the jedi/BH relationship. I want all my jedi friends in game to have good enough sabers to fight off at least 80% of the hunters they face, so that's why I farm crystals for them. I frarely even charge them for it, if I know they have a rubbish saber. I have helped a friend get to 650 mac damage on a post CU saber; one of the crystals I got for him is 105/105.


Once the FRS starts again, all jedi will have the same opportunities as each other to excel. Until then we just sit and wait, and have what fun we can





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OSWC
Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:34 am
#6






Kev0r wrote:





Elisar wrote:


not when you consider that most pre-cu jedi are packina set of 120+ -9 sabers.. thus often outdamaging post -CU jedi by 100pts or more. And we wont discuss the SAC cost on those sabers... this time. Pre-cu jedi may have tuned dozens of pearls to get their perfect sabers... but we post CU will likely tune hundreds if not thousand to get anywhere NEAR the damage they put out.


See, for a little perspective, I do pretty darn well in 1v1 combat... with ANYONE... i dont always win and sometimes get beaten in short order.... BUT when a pre-cu jedi can hot a master defender 4 times and he's incapped... while running aura AND healing and buffed.. and doped up.... something is just plain wrong.


We NEED those pearls to drop again. And we need to adjust the HAM and force cost of SABER attacks as well.





I agree, but until the FRS hits this won't be an issue. The only issue for me regarding pearls and crystals right now is the jedi/BH relationship. I want all my jedi friends in game to have good enough sabers to fight off at least 80% of the hunters they face, so that's why I farm crystals for them. I frarely even charge them for it, if I know they have a rubbish saber. I have helped a friend get to 650 mac damage on a post CU saber; one of the crystals I got for him is 105/105.


Once the FRS starts again, all jedi will have the same opportunities as each other to excel. Until then we just sit and wait, and have what fun we can






The problem with that is that Pre-CU Jedi (well excluding me and those that unlocked just prior to CU for fear of the unknown) will have a huge head start if we just "sit and wait" until the frs comes out. So if the FRS came out with TOW and they also fixed the pearls/crystals then we would have to devote a lot of time trying to upgrade our sabers just to catch up. Hell I spend almost all my playing time hunting Krayts have killed between 750-1000 I am sure and still only have a 636 max damage 16 FC saber. I know it is better than some but until they fix the tuning(if they refuse to drop premium crystals/pearls) atleast give the good pearls/crystals a slightly better chance of tuning perfect. I don't believe any Jedi that says they have tuned a post cu "good" pearl/crystal to 120 -9FPC -.25. Maybe they have tuned high damge but low FC or low speed. I have a 109 -5 but the speed it an eye popping -.01. That makes a huge difference in the speed of a saber. Oh well I guess I could try ebay..........




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OSWC
Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:38 am
#7

Actually now that I think of it I am sure I have killed over 1000 Krayts..... I have tuned over 100 pearls gotten over 200 tissue probably another 100+ scales and 150+ slicking components 50+ crappy weapons of some poor soul that the Krayt ate and this doesn't include the more often than not empty Krayt. These are conservative figures too as I don't like to exaggarate.



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Anistasio
Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:45 am
#8






OSWC wrote:





Kev0r wrote:





Elisar wrote:


not when you consider that most pre-cu jedi are packina set of 120+ -9 sabers.. thus often outdamaging post -CU jedi by 100pts or more. And we wont discuss the SAC cost on those sabers... this time. Pre-cu jedi may have tuned dozens of pearls to get their perfect sabers... but we post CU will likely tune hundreds if not thousand to get anywhere NEAR the damage they put out.


See, for a little perspective, I do pretty darn well in 1v1 combat... with ANYONE... i dont always win and sometimes get beaten in short order.... BUT when a pre-cu jedi can hot a master defender 4 times and he's incapped... while running aura AND healing and buffed.. and doped up.... something is just plain wrong.


We NEED those pearls to drop again. And we need to adjust the HAM and force cost of SABER attacks as well.





I agree, but until the FRS hits this won't be an issue. The only issue for me regarding pearls and crystals right now is the jedi/BH relationship. I want all my jedi friends in game to have good enough sabers to fight off at least 80% of the hunters they face, so that's why I farm crystals for them. I frarely even charge them for it, if I know they have a rubbish saber. I have helped a friend get to 650 mac damage on a post CU saber; one of the crystals I got for him is 105/105.


Once the FRS starts again, all jedi will have the same opportunities as each other to excel. Until then we just sit and wait, and have what fun we can






The problem with that is that Pre-CU Jedi (well excluding me and those that unlocked just prior to CU for fear of the unknown) will have a huge head start if we just "sit and wait" until the frs comes out. So if the FRS came out with TOW and they also fixed the pearls/crystals then we would have to devote a lot of time trying to upgrade our sabers just to catch up. Hell I spend almost all my playing time hunting Krayts have killed between 750-1000 I am sure and still only have a 636 max damage 16 FC saber. I know it is better than some but until they fix the tuning(if they refuse to drop premium crystals/pearls) atleast give the good pearls/crystals a slightly better chance of tuning perfect. I don't believe any Jedi that says they have tuned a post cu "good" pearl/crystal to 120 -9FPC -.25. Maybe they have tuned high damge but low FC or low speed. I have a 109 -5 but the speed it an eye popping -.01. That makes a huge difference in the speed of a saber. Oh well I guess I could try ebay..........






pre-cu will have a huge head-start on what? have you heard something bout the frs? why would you think that you would start at the same place as gaurdian pre-cu? has something been posted?honestly i dont care either way anymore, just wondering what information your using. one thing i have learned though..we should all be careful what we ask for. an example..jedi used to complain that all they were is healers with flashlights....now we just have flashlights.



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OSWC
Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:49 am
#9






Anistasio wrote:





OSWC wrote:





Kev0r wrote:





Elisar wrote:


not when you consider that most pre-cu jedi are packina set of 120+ -9 sabers.. thus often outdamaging post -CU jedi by 100pts or more. And we wont discuss the SAC cost on those sabers... this time. Pre-cu jedi may have tuned dozens of pearls to get their perfect sabers... but we post CU will likely tune hundreds if not thousand to get anywhere NEAR the damage they put out.


See, for a little perspective, I do pretty darn well in 1v1 combat... with ANYONE... i dont always win and sometimes get beaten in short order.... BUT when a pre-cu jedi can hot a master defender 4 times and he's incapped... while running aura AND healing and buffed.. and doped up.... something is just plain wrong.


We NEED those pearls to drop again. And we need to adjust the HAM and force cost of SABER attacks as well.





I agree, but until the FRS hits this won't be an issue. The only issue for me regarding pearls and crystals right now is the jedi/BH relationship. I want all my jedi friends in game to have good enough sabers to fight off at least 80% of the hunters they face, so that's why I farm crystals for them. I frarely even charge them for it, if I know they have a rubbish saber. I have helped a friend get to 650 mac damage on a post CU saber; one of the crystals I got for him is 105/105.


Once the FRS starts again, all jedi will have the same opportunities as each other to excel. Until then we just sit and wait, and have what fun we can






The problem with that is that Pre-CU Jedi (well excluding me and those that unlocked just prior to CU for fear of the unknown) will have a huge head start if we just "sit and wait" until the frs comes out. So if the FRS came out with TOW and they also fixed the pearls/crystals then we would have to devote a lot of time trying to upgrade our sabers just to catch up. Hell I spend almost all my playing time hunting Krayts have killed between 750-1000 I am sure and still only have a 636 max damage 16 FC saber. I know it is better than some but until they fix the tuning(if they refuse to drop premium crystals/pearls) atleast give the good pearls/crystals a slightly better chance of tuning perfect. I don't believe any Jedi that says they have tuned a post cu "good" pearl/crystal to 120 -9FPC -.25. Maybe they have tuned high damge but low FC or low speed. I have a 109 -5 but the speed it an eye popping -.01. That makes a huge difference in the speed of a saber. Oh well I guess I could try ebay..........






pre-cu will have a huge head-start on what? have you heard something bout the frs? why would you think that you would start at the same place as gaurdian pre-cu? has something been posted?honestly i dont care either way anymore, just wondering what information your using. one thing i have learned though..we should all be careful what we ask for. an example..jedi used to complain that all they were is healers with flashlights....now we just have flashlights.






No they get a head start by having a much bettersaber to start with. That is all I am saying. I don't think sabers should be nerfed at all I think they just need to tweek the tuning process.



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Anistasio
Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:58 am
#10






OSWC wrote:





Anistasio wrote:





OSWC wrote:





Kev0r wrote:





Elisar wrote:


not when you consider that most pre-cu jedi are packina set of 120+ -9 sabers.. thus often outdamaging post -CU jedi by 100pts or more. And we wont discuss the SAC cost on those sabers... this time. Pre-cu jedi may have tuned dozens of pearls to get their perfect sabers... but we post CU will likely tune hundreds if not thousand to get anywhere NEAR the damage they put out.


See, for a little perspective, I do pretty darn well in 1v1 combat... with ANYONE... i dont always win and sometimes get beaten in short order.... BUT when a pre-cu jedi can hot a master defender 4 times and he's incapped... while running aura AND healing and buffed.. and doped up.... something is just plain wrong.


We NEED those pearls to drop again. And we need to adjust the HAM and force cost of SABER attacks as well.





I agree, but until the FRS hits this won't be an issue. The only issue for me regarding pearls and crystals right now is the jedi/BH relationship. I want all my jedi friends in game to have good enough sabers to fight off at least 80% of the hunters they face, so that's why I farm crystals for them. I frarely even charge them for it, if I know they have a rubbish saber. I have helped a friend get to 650 mac damage on a post CU saber; one of the crystals I got for him is 105/105.


Once the FRS starts again, all jedi will have the same opportunities as each other to excel. Until then we just sit and wait, and have what fun we can






The problem with that is that Pre-CU Jedi (well excluding me and those that unlocked just prior to CU for fear of the unknown) will have a huge head start if we just "sit and wait" until the frs comes out. So if the FRS came out with TOW and they also fixed the pearls/crystals then we would have to devote a lot of time trying to upgrade our sabers just to catch up. Hell I spend almost all my playing time hunting Krayts have killed between 750-1000 I am sure and still only have a 636 max damage 16 FC saber. I know it is better than some but until they fix the tuning(if they refuse to drop premium crystals/pearls) atleast give the good pearls/crystals a slightly better chance of tuning perfect. I don't believe any Jedi that says they have tuned a post cu "good" pearl/crystal to 120 -9FPC -.25. Maybe they have tuned high damge but low FC or low speed. I have a 109 -5 but the speed it an eye popping -.01. That makes a huge difference in the speed of a saber. Oh well I guess I could try ebay..........






pre-cu will have a huge head-start on what? have you heard something bout the frs? why would you think that you would start at the same place as gaurdian pre-cu? has something been posted?honestly i dont care either way anymore, just wondering what information your using. one thing i have learned though..we should all be careful what we ask for. an example..jedi used to complain that all they were is healers with flashlights....now we just have flashlights.






No they get a head start by having a much bettersaber to start with. That is all I am saying. I don't think sabers should be nerfed at all I think they just need to tweek the tuning process.





i believe they are working on a solution on how to properly implement them into the game. krayts as they are now are too easy to farm and when they were very high levels would one-hit kill you. they'll figure something out..i wouldnt worry to much bout that. i know crappy sabers suck..just hang in there. i would venture to guess that the younger ones will have it much better off in the end, though i know its hard to see atm.



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Kev0r
Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:03 am
#11






Anistasio wrote:
i believe they are working on a solution on how to properly implement them into the game. krayts as they are now are too easy to farm and when they were very high levels would one-hit kill you. they'll figure something out..i wouldnt worry to much bout that. i know crappy sabers suck..just hang in there. i would venture to guess that the younger ones will have it much better off in the end, though i know its hard to see atm.






Not enough people are making a fuss about the AI improvements due in the future. This could be the key to finally having good loot return.


As it stands now, only BH Boss marks, and very few mobs such as the Dark Adepts and Black Sun mobs have been balanced to anywhere near a "fun combat" level. Everything else in the game is either insanely easy (all NS) or impossibly hard and boring (DJM, really high end Krayts). Once mobs become more like the current BH marks, the game will be less easy to "beat" and therefore loot will have some value again.



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therealrosh
Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:12 am
#12






Elisar wrote:






Kev0r wrote:





Andreil wrote:


Tuned at a force shrine while meditating with the paddy robes on.






Hehe, first time I tried this old rumour, pre CU, I got a 50/50 -9FC and I was convinced it was true. But 15 or so premium tunes later, and one got to -2/-2 0FC....so pretty sure it doesn't help


Otherwise, nice post. Too many of the crybaby jedi here moan that good tunes are impossible. I dunno about anyone else, but +90 tunes sound good to me





not when you consider that most pre-cu jedi are packina set of 120+ -9 sabers.. thus often outdamaging post -CU jedi by 100pts or more. And we wont discuss the SAC cost on those sabers... this time. Pre-cu jedi may have tunedhundreds of pearls to get their perfect sabers... but we post CU will likely tune hundreds to get anywhere NEAR the damage they put out.


See, for a little perspective, I do pretty darn well in 1v1 combat... with ANYONE... i dont always win and sometimes get beaten in short order.... BUT when a pre-cu jedi can hot a master defender 4 times and he's incapped... while running aura AND healing and buffed.. and doped up.... something is just plain wrong.


We NEED those pearls to drop again. And we need to adjust the HAM and force cost of SABER attacks as well.





fixt for you


i dont know where you go the dozens figure from, but as a friend of mine put it, when she asked how many crystals she would need A YEAR BEFORE she unlocked, she was told it depends on luck, but averages out to about 350 or so. so she hoarded crystals in the bank, in storage houses, in droids until the magic 350 number was reached. post cu unlockers who didnt put this type of preperation into what they were doing dont deserve better sabers.


i tuned over 200 pearls/crystals pre-cu, still dont have the perfect saber, i could boost the damage by 15 or so, maybe knock .1 from the speed if i wanted to tune 200 more(which i dont) so stop whining and start farming all you post cu unlockers. you would think you were suprised by the unlock the way your going on about this.





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OSWC
Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:53 am
#13






therealrosh wrote:






Elisar wrote:






Kev0r wrote:





Andreil wrote:


Tuned at a force shrine while meditating with the paddy robes on.






Hehe, first time I tried this old rumour, pre CU, I got a 50/50 -9FC and I was convinced it was true. But 15 or so premium tunes later, and one got to -2/-2 0FC....so pretty sure it doesn't help


Otherwise, nice post. Too many of the crybaby jedi here moan that good tunes are impossible. I dunno about anyone else, but +90 tunes sound good to me





not when you consider that most pre-cu jedi are packina set of 120+ -9 sabers.. thus often outdamaging post -CU jedi by 100pts or more. And we wont discuss the SAC cost on those sabers... this time. Pre-cu jedi may have tunedhundreds of pearls to get their perfect sabers... but we post CU will likely tune hundreds to get anywhere NEAR the damage they put out.


See, for a little perspective, I do pretty darn well in 1v1 combat... with ANYONE... i dont always win and sometimes get beaten in short order.... BUT when a pre-cu jedi can hot a master defender 4 times and he's incapped... while running aura AND healing and buffed.. and doped up.... something is just plain wrong.


We NEED those pearls to drop again. And we need to adjust the HAM and force cost of SABER attacks as well.





fixt for you


i dont know where you go the dozens figure from, but as a friend of mine put it, when she asked how many crystals she would need A YEAR BEFORE she unlocked, she was told it depends on luck, but averages out to about 350 or so. so she hoarded crystals in the bank, in storage houses, in droids until the magic 350 number was reached. post cu unlockers who didnt put this type of preperation into what they were doing dont deserve better sabers.


i tuned over 200 pearls/crystals pre-cu, still dont have the perfect saber, i could boost the damage by 15 or so, maybe knock .1 from the speed if i wanted to tune 200 more(which i dont) so stop whining and start farming all you post cu unlockers. you would think you were suprised by the unlock the way your going on about this.






Not up to you who "deserves" what. Maybe some of us liked playing and not holo grinding or maybe some of us liked pvp'ing much more than we did farming krayts. Hell I didn't even decide to go Jedi until I heard about the cu. I unlocked pre cu but didn't have time to grind fs and hunt krayts at the same time. I have been playing for aslong if not longer than you and for you to tell me what I deserve and not deserve because of how I liked to play the game is idiotic. Nobody saw the nerf coming to pearls not exactly like SOE gives anyone warning when they decide to nerf something. Don't go around telling people you don't know and don't know how they played what they deserve and don't deserve.




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