Jedi Archive
Thread: So whats the jedi's problem
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Laney_1uk
Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:57 am
#1
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=1214189
Just readthis thread basicallly saying i'm a full template whats your win rate against bh's. Most jedi there are like an average of 15/1 in favour of wins. Some boasting 445 -1 and stuff. My question is this what the heck is you guys problem as its painfully obvious that little or no BH's can touch you. HArdly anyone has lost or had to run. Soquestions are:
Why are some of you saying jedi isn't balanced
Why are you saying BH's/MCM's are overpowered
Why are you saying that jedi is not an alpha class
I consider myself a good Bounty Hunter and kill an average of 50/50 with some running, me dying, them dying and afk jedi. However i have not got ratings anywhere near yours. IF that thread is to be believed then you (my jedi)are still 1.5 times stronger imo.
Edited *** I know i've been known lately to bash the jedi profession even though i'm a jedi but over the last 1/2 a year i've taken time out of the jedi profession to broaden my outlook and have discovered some alarming things. First off most are elitest, arragant, rude, hateful, clickyand out right poor game players. I have been many different templates on many different servers and you are very much a strong profession but you contradict yourselfs in so many ways. You cannot say you'll pwn someone or indeed pwn everyone then complain your profession is weak!!!!
Orran Behime (flurry)
Message Edited by Laney_1uk on 09-21-2005 02:14 AM
Atzo
Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:58 am
#2
ask all those that completed the thread who has a pre-cu saber.
if you dont you are stuffed. (pretty-much)
Drodig
Wed Sep 21, 2005 1:59 am
#3
I know a couple jedi who have never won a fight that they didn't run from.
Laney_1uk
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:00 am
#4
Thats not my issue. I have a POST CU saber with a 39 fc and dps of around 400. There are only a handful of BH's i can't beat and the rest either die fast of get worn down.
Ryle80
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:00 am
#5
Laney_1uk wrote:http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=1214189ÂJust readÂthis thread basicallly saying i'm a full template whats you win rate against bh's. Most jedi there are like an average of 15/1 in favour of wins. Some boasting 445 -1 and stuff. My question is this what the heck is you guys problem as its painfully obvious that little or no BH's can touch you. HArdly anyone has lost or had to run. SoÂquestions are:ÂÂWhy are some of you saying jedi isn't balancedWhy are you saying BH's/MCM's are overpoweredWhy are you saying that jedi is not an alpha classÂI consider myself a good Bounty Hunter and kill an average of 50/50 with some running, me dying, them dying and afk jedi. However i have not got ratings anywhere near yours. IF that thread is to be believed then you (my jedi)Âare still 1.5 times stronger imoÂOrran Behime (flurry)
People exaggerate, also players who get repeatably beaten by bh are not going to post their stats. I have read the same kind of thing on the bh boards, how bh have huge win rates. I myself do ok on my bh, having beaten 11 jedi now in 17 tries (dont hunt often, but only 1 of these was not a finished temp).
Edited for spelling
Message Edited by Ryle80 on 09-21-2005 10:02 AM
vtg
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:01 am
#6
pre-cu saber and0 wins post cuever as jedi!
lotss of crashes, and only when playing my jedi mind you, to log back in dead.
0 losses pre jedi, and pre cu.
1 loss and more wins than i can remember on my alt.
Laney_1uk
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:02 am
#7
Ryle but this is my point. You guys (visa versa for BH's) whine that we can't win then post contradictary posts saying you sloughter us.
You can't have your cake and eat it guys. You either get stuffed or you stuff Bh's. Which is it ?
Orran Behime (flurry)
Atzo
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:05 am
#8
never been hunted (either careful, lucky, or smart - as soon as I see a blue dot Im running).
Due to limited playing time my saber is 300DPS. which is rubbish.
I was concentrating on MPowers which now seems to be a mistake.
I would have 0 chance of winning against a BH (template is still tkm). Hence I avoid them.
Drodig
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:07 am
#9
Laney_1uk wrote:
Ryle but this is my point. You guys (visa versa for BH's) whine that we can't win then post contradictary posts saying you sloughter us.
You can't have your cake and eat it guys. You either get stuffed or you stuff Bh's. Which is it ?
Orran Behime (flurry)
You say "you guys".
I am willing to bet that most of the Jedi saying they own all the time are not complaining about being weak
I am willing to also bet that the ones complaining about being to weak are not the ones who talk about how they own.
There are a lot of jedi in here, with a lot of different templates and pvp skills, not to leave out weapon qualities. Can't say "you guys" doing anything in this fashion. Our profession is too diverse.
Laney_1uk
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:09 am
#10
Our profession is too diverse.
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Well I can say you guys as 100% of the jedi here (of which i assume are all DIVERSE RANGE OF TEMPLATES lmao) have all 15/1 up to 445/1 win rates. IF the jedi are as diverse as you say then what ever the template according to this thread you are 1.5 times and more stronger.
I agree at some stages and pearls are an issue. BUt you cannot tell me all of those posting on this thread are pre cu jedi or have weak templates. Seems to be they are all pretty much strong to me
Ryle80
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:11 am
#11
Laney_1uk wrote:
Ryle but this is my point. You guys (visa versa for BH's) whine that we can't win then post contradictary posts saying you sloughter us.You can't have your cake and eat it guys. You either get stuffed or you stuff Bh's. Which is it ?Orran Behime (flurry)
Personally only 2 bh have come close to killing me post-cu. However i consider myself a pretty capable pvper, add in the fact that i have an 826 dps saber compared with the newer jedi who have closer to 400-500 dps sabers (my second jedi has 476) and i can totally understand that newer jedi are going to struggle. It all comes down to the individual players, bh or jedi both in pvp skill and weapons. Take two average players, a bh and a jedi and i would expect the jedi to win, so yes i agree jedi is stronger. I think the point to remember is that most bh are skilled pvpers with top of the line equipment, so are going to give an average jedi pvper a hard time.
Ryle80
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:13 am
#12
Having said all that, i dont believe we are 1.5 times more powerfull. More powerfull yes but not 50% more so.
Parnakido
Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:16 am
#13
Laney_1uk wrote:
Ryle but this is my point. You guys (visa versa for BH's) whine that we can't win then post contradictary posts saying you sloughter us.
You can't have your cake and eat it guys. You either get stuffed or you stuff Bh's. Which is it ?
Orran Behime (flurry)
A bh with 7100+ -8100+ Energy 75% Armor with healing ability should not get slaughtered by ANY jedi. If a bh is getting slaughtered, he/she may want to QC their equipment, skill and tactics.
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