Items And Loot Archive
Thread: Anti Decay Kit + Looted Weapons
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Sehera
Wed Mar 16, 2005 7:18 pm
#1
Hi fellow players,
anyone noticed the damage done to the live game by ADK put on exceptional weapons?
Everywhere whereI go to find nice loot, Nyax, Krayts, Acklay´,GDKs, ...
There are some players with there T21s doing 15k dmg appearing everywhere throught out my galaxy outdamaging everyone.
While before ADK they used theire weapons rarely and didnt waste it on PVE they now only use this weapons.
I feel this undermines the whole idea of excpetional weapons which had most likely a very low cond and were meant to disappear sooner or later. And that u had to think twice before using it... Now players even drop powerups on them...
Iam not saying ADKs have to go. Iam saying:
Limit ADKs on player crafted Items!
With out these changes, going out for high level content, where I have to group with some ppl to kill my target, is crap cause your outdamage by ONE single player, whos not even going to risk death, because he kills a acklay for examplein 15s. (Thats confirmed: Libster on Farstar with a LVA with 1.6k max dmg.)
So, anyone else feels this is like a legit exploit??
Devs should seriously think about this problem. As its damaging all aspects of live game play. Community, Economy, Fun, etc...
Sehera
Spinnthrift
Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:00 pm
#2
Sehera wrote:
I don't have an ADK'd Exceptional Weapon.Get rid of them.
Sehera
At least that's how I read it, but that's just paraphrasing, so please read on.
*sighs*
Now - I don't have an ADK'd exceptional weapon either, and while I wish at times I did (I hate being outdamaged on certain mobs by the *same* person day in day out)- there's nothing stopping me put the effort into creating a character to go loot high end stuff (which I have done and can now solo ancient krayt in about 15 - 20 minutes) - giving me a shot at exceptional and legendary weapons too. Do I see a problem with them? In all honesty, not really - they are owned by a *minority* of the populace, who cannot be in all places at once.
Secondly - with the upcoming CU - many of the weapons *should* become obsolete overnight - effectively resetting the playing field for everyone.
While they are game inbalancing - the *majority* of players don't have them, and won't do elevendy damage to the majority of NPC's. Secondly, many high level NPC's can be found if you look elsewhere - they Krayt GY spawns are *huge* - covering well over 2k diameter at least. Can every single Krayt be consumed by an exceptional weapon?
ADK's made the game more fun, people can use their trophy weapons without fear now. I'd love to loot an exceptional or legendary weapon and go hunt with one... I gotta put the effort in to get one sure, but - that's half the fun.
I don't feel like it's an exploit - I feel like it gave the game some much needed character. What however is needed also - is a reason to play classes other than Rifleman/Swordsman/Commando/TK/BH/Jedi (depending on your PvE style). Many mobs need a reworking so they don't require a Jedi to kill.
Much like the hotly debated PSG topic, I think they're a brilliant addition - an extra layer of protection on the Vette, a safeguard against Jedi for BH (who's armours do nothing for LS). I gave away an exceptional survival knife today to my fencer tank friend- so he'd survive better, he still won't deal damage (but he's not meant to). I'd love to see him ADK that weapon as it'll really help us both in the long run.
That's my two pence for the topic.
BobaFettish
Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:20 pm
#3
Exactly as stated above.....!!!
These Weps are Truly rare.
LEgendary weps are but 1 of each weapon type per server. Exeptional Weps are about 1 in 100,000 or so.
The number of Hight end weps like this per server is but a grain of sand in a desert.
I Have myself been trying to loot a Exeptional DXR Tenloss Rifle in the Geo Bunker for nearly 8 weeks now & have yet to see anything over 500 Max Damage drop into my pack.
I'm in there 3 days a week for 9 hrs & the rest of the time about 3hrs a day.
"I Know i have no life"...heheheeh
But the ppl who have these weapons, Have truley worked hard to get them, either Grinding up the Credits to buy them or Slaying enough GKD's, NS' SMC, Rancors, Geo's, MErcs etc...,
SO if i see someone running round - outdamaging everyone in the dungeon "Includiing me", then so be it.,...!!! This person put in the work to find the wep & He/She deserves to have a little fun!!
Personally, if i get a wep like this eventually, i will prolly not use it in a Dungeon, I will put my ADK in it, but it will be striclty a Jedi Hunting PvP Wep...
Well.....OK....., Mabe i'll give it a try in the Geo Labs, DW Bunker or on Lord Nyax 1st to see how it Pans out... but that will be just a once off session....hehehe
Honestly it will...!!
Anyway, instead of crying about getting owned by other players with Uber guns &Calling for theirremoval, why don't you put in a little effort yourself & go out & find one to Even the odds.
Message Edited by BobaFettish on 03-16-2005 07:25 PM
Teioh
Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:06 am
#4
we're about to have an exceptional 2500 dmg powerhammer being used to jedi on our servers. 3 hits and we're dead.
BobaFettish
Thu Mar 17, 2005 3:18 am
#5
Being a jedi & getting owned by a BH with an Uber wep like that, must feel about the same as 5 BH's getting owned by a single Jedi..
Things have a way of evening out like this..hehe
But if you dont want to get owned by a 1200+ Hammer, go out & do some haed Camping & Get some parts for your own Exeptional LS...Simple as that.
dmameld
Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:02 pm
#7
The new weapons will fix this. A PH isnt so bad without AP2. Or Ap3 rifle.And there will soon be no more Ap come Combat upgrade. . Wait till the acid sword comes to see MR acklay.or Mr Nyax. 
-Talon-
PitchControl
Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:25 pm
#8
go hunt ns, they drop execptional weapons... or are you scared 
Kakabus
Fri Mar 18, 2005 1:25 am
#9
Who doesnt camp the merc room for that one chance of looting that one in 100,000 (I think it actually greater than that or there would me more out there) Exceptional DXR..
Also you can get that same Exceptional/Legendary weapon off juvies and canyons and giants canyons even...not to mention the witches of dath.
BobaFettish
Sat Mar 19, 2005 12:19 am
#10
You would be quite correct there, you cannot get Exeptional Lightsabers.
However, you can get Exeptional parts, for light saber Construction.
Just like the "Exeptional" Geo Cubes, Scales, Etc..
With those items, you can craft a LS with nearly as much Killing Power as the hammer...!!
The real question is though....
Are you prepaired to put in the work to go out & find these items, Like the PPL with Uber Guns have done?
Message Edited by BobaFettish on 03-18-2005 11:22 PM
BobaFettish
Sat Mar 19, 2005 6:01 am
#11
As i said earler, i do not have any Uber Guns, nor do i have even 1 single, CA or AA..
I Could Cear less about Attatchments, but i would like to get me an Uber DXR.
I Admit i doStay for sometimes 2 buff sessions in a row at the Geo Labs, in the merc room, but after quite a few weeks doing this i have gotten mabe 15 guns all up & the highest was 520 Max.
Unlike some Goofball standing next to a crate & Looting it every few minuits, i have to contend with Some Massive battles...
"Strafe Shot 2 FAN here"...hhehehe, Massive damage, but nearly everything within range (Even stuff on the other siide of a wall), will Agro me.
Staying alive in there is not that easy.!!!
If I doget a gun eventually, I think i will have earned it, reguardless what anyone says...!
I see no difference in the ammount of work i put in at the labs, to someone Collecting Ranco Bile & Teeth, or Kryat tissue, or Killing the 100's of Stormies in Mos Espa for hours on end.
For some, this game is about collecting items & resources, & this is why NPC's & creatures Drop Stuff.
But getting back on track, if i get me a super wep, i will use my ADK & there it will stay.
If the time comes that the Cmbt Upgrade makes my wep ussless to 80% of the critters ingame, then so be it...!!
I can either delete it & go buy some guns that are Half-arsed crafting attempts, withCrappy 10MIN /50MAX (Cause i cant be stuft getting the Resources to make a good gun, but will sell thislot fior 300K each anyway,eventhough it only cost me 10 creds to make),
This is acctually the entire reason i'm out there hunting Uber guns to be honest.
If theres a chance for me to get one of these & Make some $$ on the side by selling other loot i find, trhen I'll do it.
The alternative is what, 99.9% of the Crafted guns in this game are made by losers who don't have a clue & just slap anything togeather & then sell them for prices nobody can afford.
The average stats on most crafted DXR's are just pitiful.. I would be hard pressed to kill Meatlumps with a crappy DXR with 60 MIN 210 MAX & a high HAM cost to boot!
This also applies to all crafted weps..!!
Which brings me to wonder about another thing, Would you be Bitching about someone using their ADK on a Crafted DXR with 220 Min 560 MAX With a 35% Slice & a 33% Max Dam P-up.
It is possible "with a little time & effort" to craftWeps this high...& thats not much Lower than the 1400 Exeptional Hammer mentioned earlier, so whats the difference...?
Do we need to have Crafted Uber weps removed too?
Perhaps SOE should limit all weapons in the game to a 210 max so that everyone is 100% even!!
Fellstaff
Sat Mar 19, 2005 10:26 am
#13
Kakabus wrote:
Who doesnt camp the merc room for that one chance of looting that one in 100,000 (I think it actually greater than that or there would me more out there) Exceptional DXR..
Also you can get that same Exceptional/Legendary weapon off juvies and canyons and giants canyons even...not to mention the witches of dath.
Mercs don't drop exceptional or legendary, the only exceptional and legendary drops have come from Krayt, DJK/DJM's and other HIGH END Npc's. Mercs aren't high end ..
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