Items And Loot Archive
Thread: Looting system: BH world vs Non-BH World
Since this date, i killed a lot of NPCs (elite class or not), alone or with friends.
And i looted nothing except rubbishes.
Recently, for the first time of my SWG life i choosed to become Bounty Hunter.
When grinding the Investigation skills branch, i looted white good quality crystals, jedish or not clothing attachments and so on.
I gained millions of credits selling these loots in a few days.
The NPCs who looted these items were white or yellow condition and in fact not really hard to beat.
The looting system is really imbalanced....
Non BH players are actually considered as insignifiant in the looting point of view.
Message Edited by Billou21 on 09-04-2005 10:07 AM
Eleutherios wrote:
In terms of time invested, I could get more loot by hunting Krayts. As an MBH, I can get many missions in a row that just drop a smuggler component (worth about 10k) or a jar of foraged bugs. A damage crystal 1 in 15 maybe, CA 1 in 20 or higher. Considering that each hunt can take up to 20 minutes each, it's more time-efficient to hunt Krayt dragons.
Yeah you can get more hunting krayts, but I would argue the loots are worse... you said damage crystal 1 in 15, I would say pearl drops are similar to that. The majority of Krayt drops are smuggler components as well (Delicate Trigger Assembly, Interframe). To my knowledge Krayt scales are kind of worthless (at least I know that they don't sell very well on my vendor for 10k). I'm not sure how krayt tissues compare to some of the components frombh marks but I've heard they are better in a lot of cases. And to date I haven't looted an attachment from a krayt (which I would argue is really what most people want from the currentlooting situationin the first place).
In terms of quality I think mbh missions win hands down. In my opinion attachments are the hot commodity these days, but getting them is a pain in the butt if you aren't a mbh at the moment. 
Scruffylooking69 wrote:
Eleutherios wrote:
In terms of time invested, I could get more loot by hunting Krayts. As an MBH, I can get many missions in a row that just drop a smuggler component (worth about 10k) or a jar of foraged bugs. A damage crystal 1 in 15 maybe, CA 1 in 20 or higher. Considering that each hunt can take up to 20 minutes each, it's more time-efficient to hunt Krayt dragons.
Yeah you can get more hunting krayts, but I would argue the loots are worse... you said damage crystal 1 in 15, I would say pearl drops are similar to that. The majority of Krayt drops are smuggler components as well (Delicate Trigger Assembly, Interframe). To my knowledge Krayt scales are kind of worthless (at least I know that they don't sell very well on my vendor for 10k). I'm not sure how krayt tissues compare to some of the components frombh marks but I've heard they are better in a lot of cases. And to date I haven't looted an attachment from a krayt (which I would argue is really what most people want from the currentlooting situationin the first place).
In terms of quality I think mbh missions win hands down. In my opinion attachments are the hot commodity these days, but getting them is a pain in the butt if you aren't a mbh at the moment.
Yeah, that's fine. 1 in 15 sounds right for a Krayt. But compare this:
BH Mission
---
Pull a mission.
Drive outside Kadaara.
Call an Arakyd.
Wait at the starport.
Go to the planet.
Drive up to 8k from the nearest starport.
Kill the guy.
Drive back.
Total Time: Approximately 20 minutes.
Krayts
---
Snare/root it.
Kite until dead.
Total Time: About 5 minutes solo.
So yeah, the drop rates are approximately the same, but Krayts are 4 times faster to kill, and much easier to find (you don't have to take any missions or launch any droids, one minute of driving in circles around the POI finds you one.)
Sure it takes longer to do bh missions. But I think there is no comparison when it comes to the quality of BH mission lootsversus the quality of Krayt loots. Most players would probably rather have 2-3 rare lootsfrom a days work instead of 20-25mediocre loots. For me it's a quality versus quantity kind of think. I prefer quality whereas someone else might like the quantity. The problem is getting those 2-3quality loots a daythat I can usewithout having to be a bounty hunter to get them.
Eleutherios wrote:
Scruffylooking69 wrote:
Eleutherios wrote:
In terms of time invested, I could get more loot by hunting Krayts. As an MBH, I can get many missions in a row that just drop a smuggler component (worth about 10k) or a jar of foraged bugs. A damage crystal 1 in 15 maybe, CA 1 in 20 or higher. Considering that each hunt can take up to 20 minutes each, it's more time-efficient to hunt Krayt dragons.
Yeah you can get more hunting krayts, but I would argue the loots are worse... you said damage crystal 1 in 15, I would say pearl drops are similar to that. The majority of Krayt drops are smuggler components as well (Delicate Trigger Assembly, Interframe). To my knowledge Krayt scales are kind of worthless (at least I know that they don't sell very well on my vendor for 10k). I'm not sure how krayt tissues compare to some of the components frombh marks but I've heard they are better in a lot of cases. And to date I haven't looted an attachment from a krayt (which I would argue is really what most people want from the currentlooting situationin the first place).
In terms of quality I think mbh missions win hands down. In my opinion attachments are the hot commodity these days, but getting them is a pain in the butt if you aren't a mbh at the moment.
Yeah, that's fine. 1 in 15 sounds right for a Krayt. But compare this:
BH Mission
---
Pull a mission.
Drive outside Kadaara.
Call an Arakyd.
Wait at the starport.
Go to the planet.
Drive up to 8k from the nearest starport.
Kill the guy.
Drive back.
Total Time: Approximately 20 minutes.
Krayts
---
Snare/root it.
Kite until dead.
Total Time: About 5 minutes solo.
So yeah, the drop rates are approximately the same, but Krayts are 4 times faster to kill, and much easier to find (you don't have to take any missions or launch any droids, one minute of driving in circles around the POI finds you one.)
Scruffylooking69 wrote:
.Sure it takes longer to do bh missions. But I think there is no comparison when it comes to the quality of BH mission lootsversus the quality of Krayt loots. Most players would probably rather have 2-3 rare lootsfrom a days work instead of 20-25mediocre loots. For me it's a quality versus quantity kind of think. I prefer quality whereas someone else might like the quantity. The problem is getting those 2-3quality loots a daythat I can usewithout having to be a bounty hunter to get them.
Eleutherios wrote:
Scruffylooking69 wrote:
Eleutherios wrote:
In terms of time invested, I could get more loot by hunting Krayts. As an MBH, I can get many missions in a row that just drop a smuggler component (worth about 10k) or a jar of foraged bugs. A damage crystal 1 in 15 maybe, CA 1 in 20 or higher. Considering that each hunt can take up to 20 minutes each, it's more time-efficient to hunt Krayt dragons.
Yeah you can get more hunting krayts, but I would argue the loots are worse... you said damage crystal 1 in 15, I would say pearl drops are similar to that. The majority of Krayt drops are smuggler components as well (Delicate Trigger Assembly, Interframe). To my knowledge Krayt scales are kind of worthless (at least I know that they don't sell very well on my vendor for 10k). I'm not sure how krayt tissues compare to some of the components frombh marks but I've heard they are better in a lot of cases. And to date I haven't looted an attachment from a krayt (which I would argue is really what most people want from the currentlooting situationin the first place).
In terms of quality I think mbh missions win hands down. In my opinion attachments are the hot commodity these days, but getting them is a pain in the butt if you aren't a mbh at the moment.
Yeah, that's fine. 1 in 15 sounds right for a Krayt. But compare this:
BH Mission
---
Pull a mission.
Drive outside Kadaara.
Call an Arakyd.
Wait at the starport.
Go to the planet.
Drive up to 8k from the nearest starport.
Kill the guy.
Drive back.
Total Time: Approximately 20 minutes.
Krayts
---
Snare/root it.
Kite until dead.
Total Time: About 5 minutes solo.
So yeah, the drop rates are approximately the same, but Krayts are 4 times faster to kill, and much easier to find (you don't have to take any missions or launch any droids, one minute of driving in circles around the POI finds you one.)
ummm 15 krayt pearls 8-9 hours maybe(solo for me), um when all it takes is 1 good loot from a bh mark. My friends first bh mark he did he got a +12 gen melee spd, 30 min later +8 1h ls spd, and I know he stocks his vendor often. Krayts, the only thing worth looting is the GOOD pearls, they sell on my server for 1-1.5 mil. and everything else is worthless, tissues suck (because of power cells, oh from bh mark, again) scales totally worthless. You as BH have it made and are waisting your time doing krayts, your loss, they'll nerf BH soon.
Imperial Shock Trooperthere not and acctually your have rougthly the same chance of getting a sea off of a force npc the only real diffrence being that bh get a waypoint to there npc's spawn
on the other had there are some unbalancing issues in the quality of bh loot mainly that powercells are far superior to krayt tissues as they have sac reduction and generaly only drop 150 plus damage
sohokerv wrote:
hmm ok the thing annoying me atm is people saying bh are the only profesion to get sea and that they are garientied per mission
there not and acctually your have rougthly the same chance of getting a sea off of a force npc the only real diffrence being that bh get a waypoint to there npc's spawn
on the other had there are some unbalancing issues in the quality of bh loot mainly that powercells are far superior to krayt tissues as they have sac reduction and generaly only drop 150 plus damage
I must have done over 50 NPC missions and have not yet looted one power cell.
You all are talking about how it was before this last publish.
As an MBH... I've been getting next to squat over the last week.
Paintings, furniture, warm hats, and smuggler loots.
NO CAs, or AAs, or anything of value. 
But in addition, as you start speaking about the reward topic, BH missions are well rewarded by comparison with classic hunting missions.
Even for less rewarded master BH mission.
Killing a white con target for 30K is really imbalanced by comparison with killing a pack of white con mobs for 11K
Those who never played a BH would be really really surprised to discover that BH PVE mission job is really rewarding better than classical PVE missions.