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Thread: Barc -vs- Varactyl

LostPharoah
Tue May 31, 2005 2:55 pm
#1

Barc -vs- Varactyl

Ok Someone please explain to me the logic as im just not understanding the communitys logic..

I Have 3 accounts of the 3 I decided to opt for the digital download version of ROTW. This was b4 it was announced that the people who opt for the DDL version recieave the Varactyl and those who chose the shelf version (The Total Experience) recieaved the Barc.

Now that all said over the past few I have been trying to work out a trade of one of my spare varactyl's in exchange for a barc speeder. well I had figured this was a fair trade ..... apparently not so I was run into the "no chance newb" etc etc flames for even offering such a trade stating i was crazy and would be ripping peopl off... To say the least I was astonished as anyone who knows me (ign jafar or Amonseti) Im certain can attest that im defenataly not about ripping people off.. Soo I took the time to evaluate the fairness of the trade and have come to a much diffrent conclusion..


Rarity

first the DDL incentive i beleave is over .. so new varactyls being introduced into the community will stop sharply . even if you can still get the DDL version with the incentive.. The total experience has replaced the original shelf item so in the future any new commer will have a barc with them thus introducing many into the community until this package is replaced with a new expansion package of the like (which I assme will be well over a year b4 another compolation package needs to be made).


Functionality

Obviously the barc is faster then the Varactyl (but just as fast as a common swoop) however it can barly be used in places like kash, The Varactyl Is a super fast pet mount, no other pet mount can compair to it "not by a long shot" and it can roam most area's of kash. the Varactyl also has no maintence fees and is safer to have out when travercing area's where spawns like to take out what your riding.


Coolness

Both are pretty kewl this is about the only reason i wanted a barc as far as vehicals go it is the coolest.. BUT ... same can be said for the Varactyl it is also the coolest as far as ridable pets is concerned so these draw about even to me.


Lets evalute now.

For rarity: over time the Varactyl will be much more difficult to obtain. Varactyl wins this catigory..

For Functionality: other then speed comparison between the 2 Varactyl wins again its just more diverse..

For coolness: Both are uber cool so I call this one a draw.


Tabulate the score and the Varactyl wins 2.5 to the Barc's .5


So in closing I just dont see how my offer could be considered unfair when realisticaly Id be ripping myself off..

However thats is only my opinion and the reason I made this post to see what others think. and to make sure my thinking is not off the wall.



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JeebusCrisp
Tue May 31, 2005 3:29 pm
#2

...and as he walked away, the fox said to himself, 'I didn't want those grapes anyway, they were very likely sour.'



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MasterArtisanPell
Tue May 31, 2005 9:45 pm
#3

I got the DDL as well. I woundn't trade my Varactyl for the world. There are plenty of them IG now, but as you said, there won't be as many in a few weeks. I understand that they are not as fast as the BARC or anything else, but I like it as a collectors item.






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Klaiten
Tue May 31, 2005 10:02 pm
#4






JeebusCrisp wrote:
...and as he walked away, the fox said to himself, 'I didn't want those grapes anyway, they were very likely sour.'




it certainly came off that way, eh?
Broxolm
Wed Jun 01, 2005 7:17 am
#5

Hmm...very nice argument. The value scales tip considerably toward the BARC when you consider your bias toward the Varactyl and the durability of both mounts.


Consider the Varactyl's durability against a BARC's:


Sure the Varactyl is safer to use in dangerous situations, but eventually (after a VERY long time) it will die like all other pets. You could use a vitality pack to keep it alive, but eventually even its vitality status will become 0 and it will be unusable.


The BARC on the other-hand may explode in an ungodly torrent of flame and destruction, but unlike other mounts, it can be un-disabled using a Master Artisan BARC kit. This could be repeated indefinitately without limit. So the only way a BARC could ever truely be destroyed would be if a newbie /deleted it without knowing it could be repaired.


In the FAR distant future Varactyls will become scarce and thus more valuable, but it will not be as an effective mountas the BARC. I do believe that trading a BARC for a Varactyl is a fair enough, but like the RIS suit has taught us; just because its rare and valuable doesn't mean ithas a viable function.


Tuscanspeed
Wed Jun 01, 2005 7:24 am
#6

my varactyl has died MANY times with no loss to vitality.



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captenjonny
Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:05 am
#7






LostPharoah wrote:

.....

Lets evalute now.

For rarity: over time the Varactyl will be much more difficult to obtain. Varactyl wins this catigory..

For Functionality: other then speed comparison between the 2 Varactyl wins again its just more diverse..

For coolness: Both are uber cool so I call this one a draw.


Tabulate the score and the Varactyl wins 2.5 to the Barc's .5


So in closing I just dont see how my offer could be considered unfair when realisticaly Id be ripping myself off..

However thats is only my opinion and the reason I made this post to see what others think. and to make sure my thinking is not off the wall.





Tell you what. I have three accounts 2 Varactyl and one BARC. I would GLADLY trade those two crappy, waddeling turkeys for BARCs. I'm on Sunrunner BTW.

Message Edited by captenjonny on 06-01-2005 12:05 PM



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clowdvailo
Wed Jun 01, 2005 10:00 am
#8

i am the oldest CH on kauri, i have been a master since the second week of the game release. I still have a few of myoriginal pets and use my pets in everything i do. NEVER have i lost a pet because of vitality. my pets are all still alive, and i love the varactyl. if you bring into account kashyyk, he is way more valuable then a speeder.



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Broxolm
Wed Jun 01, 2005 4:27 pm
#9






clowdvailo wrote:
i am the oldest CH on kauri, i have been a master since the second week of the game release. I still have a few of myoriginal pets and use my pets in everything i do. NEVER have i lost a pet because of vitality. my pets are all still alive, and i love the varactyl. if you bring into account kashyyk, he is way more valuable then a speeder.





I did say it would take a very long time.......but your pets will die of vitality loss eventually. If you pet does not lose vitality points when it dies, then you got some kind of /bug'ed uber pet lol
atat9619
Wed Jun 01, 2005 7:28 pm
#10

Varactyl kis cute and i prefer it over the money stealing barc.



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CardinalTRE
Thu Jun 02, 2005 7:22 am
#11

I liked my Varactyl when he didn't make any noise



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Katalepsis
Thu Jun 02, 2005 7:37 am
#12






MasterArtisanPell wrote:

I got the DDL as well. I woundn't trade my Varactyl for the world. There are plenty of them IG now, but as you said, there won't be as many in a few weeks. I understand that they are not as fast as the BARC or anything else, but I like it as a collectors item.









/agree

Is the BARC cool? Sure. Is the Varactyl much more practical and will it be five times rarer than BARCs in a few weeks and months? Yup. Varactyl for teh win...BARC for teh n00bs.



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simba-dimba
Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:19 am
#13

A pet cares for it's master because it is also living


.... where as a vehical is just a machine with no mind or soul of it's own




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