Items And Loot Archive
Thread: Kill Stealing!!!!
xthejedix wrote:
i find this rather funny. u dont own any npc's or creatures in this game therefore how can it get "stolen"?I have seen this same exact question asked in 50 diffrent forms and I will answer it again. IfI am out searching for a rare mob and finally stumbleupon one after 2 hours and form my hunting partyme and the MAJORITY of the other people that play this game would like to consider that "are mob"i mean, yah if ur out attacking something for half an hour and someone comes up and kills it that is kinda bogus,Im glad you agree and would consider this act "bogus" How about doing me a favor and just calling it a"kill steal"but like the other day, i was at fort tuskan. i am runnin around killin tuskans like always. i c a warlord that no one is attacking so i shoot at it (i am pistoleer) and then this other guy starts attacking it and tells me to beat it, which i dont and i killit,and then heclaims i stole his kill cuz he "called it" or something childish like that. i mean seriously, calling a creature as ur own? he told me he was gonna follow me around and "steal" my kills, which he couldnt cuz i out damaged him by far, but thats not the point. Im glad you realized that "that is not the point" after you told us that irrelivant story...I have concluded that you just wanted to tell this short story to boast a little taleBut i will go ahead and tell you that in your short story IF there was some sort of mob locking that WOULD of never happened and if he was in fact there before you he would of had it locked on. for everyone who thinks steal killing is a prob, grow up. its a game, quit complaining. if u were there for a while, then ask nicely, This is pretty much the funniest alternative I have read on this thread. but if u get there at the sametime, dont call it as ur own, cuz that is bogus.Never argued that point because you are correct but how about we put something ingame to make the decision for us on who actually got there first. and if they dont leave u alone, then either report them for harassment (if they follow u and harass u), then go somewhere else.
NowI want to ask you one question.. What exactly would be wrong WITH a system that locks mobs to the first attacker?...Obviously this system wouldnt be EXACTLY from eq2 or ff11 but SIMULAR in the sence that kill stealing is all but non existant.
Inchow wrote:
I have always thought people who scream kill stealing is such BS! #1 NONE of the NPCs have YOUR specific name on them do they? Is this the same question in a diffrent form? I think it is....Quit whining about this already and go kill stuff! If some 12 year old kid is just faster than you, you just need to learn the mechanics of the game.Explain to me whatI need to learn? I knowa guy with a greater weapon can kill steal a whole group those are real balanced mechanics.I have people trying to "Kill Steal" stuff from me all the time. The ones who are actually decent might get "MY" stuff maybe 1 or 2 times out of every ten things I kill.Please postprofession and damage of weapon and I'll come to my own conclusion of if you are even dealing with this problem or part of it.Because "maby" 10-20% of the timeyou lose a kill ? That seems awfully lowcompairing towhatI have been facing...Ihave always prided myself in useing good equipment. I knowI dont own what is considred to be the best of the best butIhave better equipment than the AVERAGE player by a long shot andI STILL get outdamaged 80% of the time by the same profession...Rifleman and with the same exact shot...Advanced Strafe....I pay my monthly $15 and I can kill what I want to! Your stuff!? Bah. It is whoever gets it first!Youfinally AGREE!!! IAPPLAUD you for comming fourth and admitting that if you get to it FIRST it should indeed be yours.If your profession totally sucks, get a new one! This is what me and the community are striving AGAINST...and again thanx for pointing that out as well.
I think you got me all wrong. I am not saying you should play the game ANY way but the way you want to. Ohh you mean the "If your profession totally sucks, get a new one!" has nothing to do with forcing people toplay the game a certain way? remember the days of me being a NOOB and spending like 5 minutes on a single Tusken Raider just to have someone come by and kill it in one hit! Was I upset? Oh yeah! But it made me want to also know how I could do the same thing.Basically got outdamaged..looked at his profession and said..IfI want to compete for lootI need to be his profession.I LEARNED this game from my friends and reading the forums. I LEARNED how to play this game and have helped tons of my friends to learn this game also. As far as the Combat Balance, bring it on! Fair play is fine with me! I don't have +25 two handed melee tapes on me, I sure wish I did! If I see a NOOB working on a creature or an NPC, I leave them alone, plain and simple. Wish everybody felt this way BUT the fact is that it doesnt..and people do what the can get away with...thats why we have to create boundries...some people just dont know how to behave in a mmorpg. If they ask for help I jump in and give it to them! =) Learn the game, play the game! "Don't hate the player, hate the game!" LMAO! =) =p We are all expressing that we hate the current system which is the game. But we also hate the guys that will come and use a EXCEPTIONAL T21 and outdamage you because it was a ns elder and has the possibility to strike it RICH..So why wouldnt he do it IF it was accepted within the soe guidlines.As a matter of fact I am guilty of TRYING to kill steal and actually kill stealing..Why wouldI do such a thing you ask?..because the same person kill stole or tried to kill steal me and it is ok to do it anyways ...supposedly.
I know I missed somethingbutthe one alternativeI would have to agree on that doesntNOT include a "locking mob" system is tocome up with some type of "group damage" system so a group of guyscan outdamage a kill stealer. I am personally sick to my stomach over acklay campers and elder/krayt stealers.I am begging the devs to take a peak at this thread andstart a constructive postfor GATHERING IDEAS on how we could come up with a better SYSTEM that is in eq2 and ff11...
Message Edited by Beyaco on 03-22-2005 03:54 PM
destrkta wrote:
i call it competition, if i can win all good, if i can't i walk away no complaint's This is your alternative?...Soyou do not see anythingwrong with haveingspawns cammped such as the acklay and nyax?...loli know i've been down to nyax and often enough their is a group that is doing more dmg than me so i leave. quite simple you can't win and your only their for the loot just leave and try again later. And that is the same reason anybody would be at trying to kill Nyax..For loot. After finding out he drops good aa's and ca's I have never seen it not cammped. Later never comes for Nyax I have totally given up on him..Is that what the devs intended?
