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Thread: People are getting too carried away about Krayts

Israth
Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:18 pm
#27






Skuzz wrote:
I to am getting tired about the cries over the pearl problem. Correct me if im wrong but pearls are not MANDATORY for jedi, they are just preferred. Crystals are the main component thats needed, and these are still dropping like mad on Lok. I know cuz ive gotten many and given them to jedi in my guild (some tuned really nice even). So its not like jedi cant play the game just because pearls arent dropping or are dropping but are exceedingly rare. Maybe im off base here but this argument would be similar to a normal player screaming bloody murder because he was recieving less then the absolute best SEA's from a mob, when he should be greatful for ANY at all. Am i wrong here?





Yes, pearls are just a luxary. You can use power and color crystals without the need for pearls. It's just a flawless pearl has the potential to tune better than a crystal.
Milgram
Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:30 pm
#28

People aren't pissed about krayts being nerfed, they are pissed that everything is nerfed. No night sisters are droping crystals. If it was just krayts, we would all sell our houses on tat, and start looking for a nice neighborhood on dath. The mercenaries on lok aren't a perticularly good source of crystals, and only drop good crystals at most. Making premiums no longer available is going to create a huge rift between established jedi with four well tuned and brand new jedi.


The pearl/crystal nerf is the equivelant of Paemos saying "Sheesh, I have no idea what the fudge those experiences mean. No way I am going to be able to help you understand those. Sorry, can't help you mate." People grinding are going to be so gimped when they get to jedi that what is the point?




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JLMRacing
Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:00 pm
#29

People are getting carried away because they go out and Tackle the Giants and the Aincents for buff session after buff session and come home with NADA....so irritated by that , they Head to Dath and try their hands at NS and after 3 hrs of Slaughtering them they come home with NADA....... nothing is dropping...thats why ppl are going crazy......



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fny
Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:06 pm
#30

Skuzz, i totally agree with u.. Why not destroy all weapons but cdef types over-night for all who dont want to be jedi? To quote u alittle regarding the pears: "...pearls are not MANDATORY for jedi, they are just preferred..." What kinda reason is that?? If u feel thats a good reason here's another "good" reason to do something about weapons in general: Eliminate all but cdef type weapons (and similar dmg type weapons for non- shooters) as "all the other types of weapons for non jedi arent MANDATORY- they r just preferred. That would perhaps "balance" the game again and wouldnt be any different to whats happened with jedi's ls! And when people get pissed about that mabey then u wanna complain cause then it hits u and not only alot of other ppl??

Mabey u can catch the sarcasm here?
Sure, pearls should be rare. BUT- there is a HUGE difference when it one day drops all around (more or less) and the next day its close to ZERO total pearl drops for entire servers!

To mention something else as a last note: Instead of getting angry that there r so many jedis.. Why not look at the reasons there r so many? One reason is that unless u wanna have at least 2 accounts 2 pay for u can only have ONE char on a server- while if u get a jedi that doubles the amount of chars u can have on the same server!
Sure, u can only use 1 char at a time- so what?? Having more chars on the same server makes them busier and thereby increases the feeling of this being a online game because with more chars to choose from ppl will have several chars with various profs that they can get out instantly as well as that it will result in more non- fighters, more trade, more roleplaying (when fighters get bored of PvE), more ppl on a server= higher demand of everything but also higher supply of everything so prices will at worst stay the same.
Jagbar
Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:06 pm
#31






Skuzz wrote:
I to am getting tired about the cries over the pearl problem. Correct me if im wrong but pearls are not MANDATORY for jedi, they are just preferred. Crystals are the main component thats needed, and these are still dropping like mad on Lok. I know cuz ive gotten many and given them to jedi in my guild (some tuned really nice even). So its not like jedi cant play the game just because pearls arent dropping or are dropping but are exceedingly rare. Maybe im off base here but this argument would be similar to a normal player screaming bloody murder because he was recieving less then the absolute best SEA's from a mob, when he should be greatful for ANY at all. Am i wrong here?





Their not mandatory.. their not a luxary etheir.. they are what they are.. Krayt dragon pearls that can be tuned for use as a lightsaber crystal.. that is their only function. same as clear crystals.. their only function is to be used as a lightsaber crystal. to say you don't need them is bullsquat in itself.. in that case take acklay bones, krayt dragon tissues, spider fangs, gorax bones, nym weapon componets, and krayt dragon armor segs out of the game too.. they aren't needed. hell get rid of all weapons since we can do damage with our barehands. if you don't want people to think only about money then make them drop 5 at a time.. they will be pretty much worthless to sell then.. lowering the drop rate will only raise prices. which i guess i don't really have a problem with once they start dropping again.. more money for me.



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Skwall
Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:00 pm
#32

Negatory People are not getting carried away, There is a feeling of dicontent for 2 reasons: SOEs reputationand gimpage of Jedi.


Lets start w/ SOEs overall reputation. And the reasonable cry from the community.


  • DEVS/SOE in SWG have an infamous reputation, how was it earned? SOE nerfs more useful things thanit adds, and when it does adds, it introduces a slew of new bugs and possible exploits. Players always feel a constant nerf because frankly they take more usefulness than they give. Why is it that they're taking this road? Because they introduced a game into a community had not forseen the outcome. Everything now, is an attempt at fixing the game.

  • Think of it this way, how long have all of us vets waited for the Combat Revamp/Upgrade, GCW or new content? Imagine what it will be like to await new content and progression, instead of waiting for "THE COMBAT UPGRADE or GALACTIC CIVIL WAR REVAMP." Most content added was JTL.

  • Talk to most professions or swing by the forums of each and see how much of each has been nerfed, needs fixing or is completly useless. (Start on the CH and Smuggler threads). This is also where all the FOTM templates originate.

Ok, lets talk about what pearls mean to jedi.



  • Tuning a crystal/pearl is a random system that requiresNO skillordecision by the user on creating. The only thing that influences tuning is said to be the "quality" of the crystal/pearl.

Because of the current system, jedi have a force bar that enables them to use specials. Regular professions have "HAM" bars that supposedly enable them to use specials. (this is getting changed in the CU). A 4th generation 48 Force cost saber compared to 10 FC saber is a VERY big change. Again, why is having a good saber important?



  • You can only get xp for jedi through saber. The more specials you can do, the more xp you can getfor the huge xp requirements.

  • More force not only equals more specials, it equals more healing/running etc. Jedi can't wear armor.

  • The list goes on and on, if you really want to see the reprocussions of this try playing on a leveling jedi.

Now, as so many have stated before me, less loot = more money. But because Jedi are required to have a large amount of pearls/crystals to get a decent saber, let alone a PVP saber for knight, here comes the money issues. Again, let me re-establish, LOTS of JEDI (SOEs to thank for this) require LOTS of Pearls/Crystals!


So......?


Again, what do you use to play with? Regular unslinced, not enhanced weapons?You, can argue by saying, why don't you use a 1st gen saber that has lower damage and lower force cost? Our response is, why don't you level master rifleman w/ a cdef rfile? See the point? And jedi requires a lot of xp...


So you can see that because of Game issues, (GJ SOE) the game is very unbalanced and that many of the problems stem from them.


For instance: Many BHs that hunt jedi are MELEE! Why's that? Because they're more effective that way? You must understand its human nature for people to go to what empowers them more. Better weapons, etc. This post can go on and on, but its just beating a dead horse, evidence is everywhere...


I personally, am lucky to have a decent saber, but I'm tired of everyone saying you don't need pearls/crystals. The only way that this nerf would make sense would be if it were a balanced nerf. Jedi are said to be in a post-CU system, while everything else isn't. You put a special bar for BHs that attack, forthe PVP community, thenJedi andthe20 sec. of spamming specials until default attacks might work, but for now its not cutting it.




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Liander
Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:14 pm
#33

amen...very well said...


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Skwall
Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:14 pm
#34

Again, I'm not saying that pearls should be common, but remember, a large amount of pearls/crystals are needed in order to be able to to get a decent tune. And there is a large population of jedi. I was stating the discontent by both Jedi and the community for this nerf/bug. Jedi almost require crystals/pearls, the inability to loot them and use them under the current system is harsh.


As it stands right now, premium crystals aren't dropping well from NSers either, start a thread on that.



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Milgram
Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:16 pm
#35

/cheer squall. Extremely well said.




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Liander
Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:19 pm
#36

pearls and crystals are required in the fact that every time the saber is swung and strikes a target..you have crystal decay. which means the only people that are hard core grinding right now are people that had the ability to anti decay kit their best saber. the padawan that didn't have a stash of crystals/pearls is on hold until they can start looting the premiums/quality/select crystals/pearls they need.




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fny
Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:25 am
#37

well said skwall!
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I8TheWorm
Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:47 am
#38


Liander wrote:
crystals are required in the fact that every time the saber is swung and strikes a target..you have crystal decay. which means the only people that are hard core grinding right now are people that had the ability to anti decay kit their best saber. the padawan that didn't have a stash of crystals/pearls is on hold until they can start looting the premiums/quality/select crystals/pearls they need.




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Greenmonsta
Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:39 am
#39

Maybe this is a sneaky dev way of nerfing Jedi...



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