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Thread: Solution to AFK Campers???

klaatuu
Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:54 pm
#14

Just put a lot of worthless stuff to be looted that way the afk campers inventory gets full and they can't loot anymore. Camaxtli
droid327
Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:06 pm
#15



BobaFettish wrote:

Hehe.. Looks like the last Patch solved the problem for us.

I just bin down there for 2.5 hrs & for once there is nobody else in sight. Not even the Regular AFK Campers.

The whole 2.5hrs, i netted myself a whole 1 tape, Droid assambly 2 / Artisan Assembly 2.

Nice,..hehe at least the AFK'rs nolonger have an excuse to be there (untill they find another Spawn that puts out).




you sure it wasnt just cuz the server was down? They may AFK but they have to get logged in first

and lowering the drop rate wont deter the AFKers, it will just deter everyone else, since you'll have to camp for 6 hours to get anything good now.



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BobaFettish
Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:16 pm
#16

Not sure when the last downtime was, last one i saw was over 8hrs ago, but then, like i said i have only been ingame for about 2.5 hrs.


The drop rate has definatley been lowered though. And you are right, this will only put off the regular players, not the campers with AFK Macro's & 3rd Party proggs running.


Perhaps the Devs acctually do believe that AFK's should be the ones to own the SEA Market...hehehe





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drocktonyg
Wed Jun 08, 2005 8:11 pm
#17

dont think so, even tho there is much controversy over where afk looting is an exploit or not...i can definitively say it is


sent in a letter to customer service and they said it is, although in that case it isnt very well enforced






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sciguyCO
Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:12 am
#18

There are ways to macro radial menu interaction using the in-game system.


You know, I wonder what type of targeting these AFK campers use? For NPCs like Nyax, I'd assume somewhere in it is "/targ Nyax". Can a pet be named "Nyaxa" within the name filter (or heck, even "Nyax")? Does "/targ Nyax" select Nyaxa? If both Nyaxa and Nyax are in the same area, which get's targeted? The closest? So if you (for instance) ordered Nyaxa to follow the camper, what do you think would happen?






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Ithilkir
Thu Jun 09, 2005 12:14 am
#19

Pets have brackets round the name, so Nyax would be (Nyax) so a /tar Nyax wouldn't work on the pet.



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Rence
Thu Jun 09, 2005 3:40 pm
#20

Recursive macros are not going away. Players have been saying that for as long as I have played the game.


I have never heard or read any Devs posts saying that recursive macros are going away, the closest thing I've read was "We are looking into it." (I don't know, does that sound like a blow off or what?)


The quality of loot has dropped, Especially Lord Nyax.


If everyone doesn't have a Akun ring or shirt yet they have just started the game, they will have plenty of time to get some.


Spawn campers are a non-issue to non-spawn campers. People grinding don't care about them. Players who explore and do quests don't care about them.


Yes it is true. The only people who whine about uber spawn campers are noob spawn campers.


So all you spawn campers...camp away and enjoy yourselves (heaven knows I don't want to enjoy you :smileyvery-happy. All the decent loot are quest rewards anyways IMHO.



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P__Day
Thu Jun 09, 2005 7:22 pm
#21

if its on a "risk" planet like dath or something or at nyax place and you are sure they are afk, just train a ton of mobs down there. if you get in trouble with a CSR say that you saw the dot and was hoping for help.
Hooskdaddy
Thu Jun 09, 2005 8:40 pm
#22



Droid



You are welcome. I always like to help out where i can. Below is a link to a converastion i just had with someone pissed at me because he/she couldnt get anything at the caves.


sorry..dont know how to make a clicky.


http://img95.echo.cx/img95/9538/screenshot00488wi.jpg



For those of you who gripe and complain about AFK campers, you are mad because A) you dont want to do it and dont think its right, or B) Cant do it yourself. Either way, we both need each other. I need u to sell stuff to, and you need me to acquire it. If you think Im going to let someone else come and outdamage me in a cave so they can take creds out of my pocket....um NO. Its just that way. If I need a weapon...I go to a WS.....If I need armor...I go to an AS....If you need CA and AA....come to me or those like me. WE KEEP THE ECONOMY FLOWING...You want us in that cave.....YOU NEEED US IN THAT CAVE!!!I...If you cant pick up a gun and outdamage me then We would you rather just say thank you and be on your way



Message Edited by Hooskdaddy on 06-09-2005 08:43 PM

Message Edited by Hooskdaddy on 06-09-2005 08:46 PM

harajuku
Thu Jun 09, 2005 8:49 pm
#23






Hooskdaddy wrote:



Droid



You are welcome. I always like to help out where i can. Below is a link to a converastion i just had with someone pissed at me because he/she couldnt get anything at the caves.


sorry..dont know how to make a clicky.


http://img95.echo.cx/img95/9538/screenshot00488wi.jpg



For those of you who gripe and complain about AFK campers, you are mad because A) you dont want to do it and dont think its right, or B) Cant do it yourself. Either way, we both need each other. I need u to sell stuff to, and you need me to acquire it. If you think Im going to let someone else come and outdamage me in a cave so they can take creds out of my pocket....um NO. Its just that way. If I need a weapon...I go to a WS.....If I need armor...I go to an AS....If you need CA and AA....come to me or those like me. WE KEEP THE ECONOMY FLOWING...You want us in that cave.....YOU NEEED US IN THAT CAVE!!!I...If you cant pick up a gun and outdamage me then We would you rather just say thank you and be on your way



Message Edited by Hooskdaddy on 06-09-2005 08:43 PM


Message Edited by Hooskdaddy on 06-09-2005 08:46 PM





ROFL thx for the publicity lol
DancinMonkey
Fri Jun 10, 2005 12:22 am
#24

i have the best solution...afk camping equals an instant ban



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EgarFlyrunner
Fri Jun 10, 2005 8:52 am
#25


This type of attitude sucks all the life out of a game, removes any accomplishment and degrades the economy for the greed of one person. I know the arguments, 'Well if I didn't do it someone else would' or 'It's my dollar dude' but I blame SOE for the way this has continued to happen in this game, you can't blame the morons who perpetuate the behaviour.


Something could have been done about it easily. The amount of times the macro's run is absolutely astonishing, like the poster/idiot above stated he had taken all the pauses out of the macro and ran it recursively means it must absolutely spam the server and clients could be disconnected by lowering the volume of incoming connection attempts to the server. No one needs to run commands every 0.01 seconds for a prelonged period.


Secondly people want recursive macros to make things easier, for crafting, well maybe there is a way of allowing them to run and this is a new idea.


For each time they run a recursive macro, MAKE IT COST XP POINTS/SKILL BOXES.


That way campers like these will slowly degrade over time loosing skills and having to retrain will stop the behaviour.



Thirdly I support the fact that SOE take a no nonsense stand and get CSR's to police it in game, they know the points, Aakuan cave, DJM missions on Dath, Nyax, the two Jedi south of Dant mining outpost. Sure it will take a few people to do it, may cause a few arguements, but it will be fair. I don't think for one second AFK macro players are uber, they are just the only people who devote time to this. Quite a few of them do it so they can sell credits on Ebay


http://search.ebay.com/star-wars-galaxies_Internet-Games_W0QQcatrefZC12QQfromZR8QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQsacatZ1654)


and this needs to be addressed too. If you really got the 'big boys' in, they guys who really have mastered their profession and have the best weapons, would they win?



....well no they won't because its based on server connection speed along, you got the highest ping, you get the best loot, this is exploiting the mechanics of the game therefore breaks the T&C set down by SOE.



People are farming in excess of 10-20 high value skill tapes each day from unbalanced loot tables, the ability to increase spawn sizes in large groups with quick kills and repetitively spawn the same mission over and over, kill the target and then drop it before completion to redo it from the start. Basically using the system in a way that causes it to break down. Could you blame the devs, sure, but by doing it, you are equally to blame for further breaking the economy and making the game less fun for everyone in the long term, including yourselves.



I'd appreciate a response to this Tiggs. No player should be able to play the game this way, I wanted a 'total experience' and Mr Lucas would be horrified to think this is one of the most hotly debated topics in a game about Star Wars.


/rant off
BobaFettish
Fri Jun 10, 2005 9:21 am
#26


Recursive macros are not going away. Players have been saying that for as long as I have played the game.


I have never heard or read any Devs posts saying that recursive macros are going away, the closest thing I've read was "We are looking into it." (I don't know, does that sound like a blow off or what?)


The quality of loot has dropped, Especially Lord Nyax.


If everyone doesn't have a Akun ring or shirt yet they have just started the game, they will have plenty of time to get some.


Spawn campers are a non-issue to non-spawn campers. People grinding don't care about them. Players who explore and do quests don't care about them.


Yes it is true. The only people who whine about uber spawn campers are noob spawn campers.


So all you spawn campers...camp away and enjoy yourselves (heaven knows I don't want to enjoy you :smileyvery-happy. All the decent loot are quest rewards anyways IMHO.

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I got nothing against campers... Thats not the Issue here.


I acctually enjoy having other campers around..., atleast when they are at the Keyboard that is. Then its usually a 50-50 chance at a Mob.


I Totally refuse to use a 3rd Party Prog or even an Ingame Bot... & it gets infuriating to be standing there with 2 - 3 AFK Dudes whos Computrs are making all their moves for them. Meaning that their reaction time is about 200th of a second, from the time a spawn starts to appear.


Its a little hard to beat that with Human reflexes.... It's wrong, Its Lazy & its gay!!! If I can take the time to Stay at the Keyboard, then they should too, or quit the game. They are not playing so they have no Business there.


And don't gimme any crap about they pay their $15.00, Incase you don't realise it, "So Do I"...!!


If they are not boingto Phisically play the game, then they have no right to take away content from people who do have a few Morals. And anyone who supports them, or dose it themselves, is just a Lazy Slob who should be booted from the game.


Nobody is going to buy their crapp for 1.5mill - 10mill a peace, which is what many of these Morons do. Holding the entire Game population to ransom is a crime really when you think about it. Infact, wasn't there just recently a court case where several gamers took out a lawsuit on an AFK camper, forcing the Game Co. to reveal the ID of the camper for Persicution...? Dunno who won though. I think it was with one of EA's games.



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