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Thread: The CU will be very...VERY painful to some...
Go to the Armorsmith forum, read a bit, then come back and talk about how we shouldn't be righteously angry.
michael_rem wrote:
Well....the only whiners in this post is all you super crafters who are afraid of loosing a bit of money...
Well i guarentee you you wont. Its gonner be a whole different game, with new armors and weapons...btw, i dont hear the WS complain....so you will have tons of opportunies to make more money. You have always done so, when something new comes out, by overpricing the first few weeks.
So dont worrie, you wont loose a credit.
Another thing, 50% of the players are afaried of changes to the game....why...??...when they did the Jedi rewamp...dammit a lot of griefing and whining...did i write dammit...yes i did...i hope im not gonner get BANNED....
Last thing...Freedom of Speach say anything to you...if you hit on ppl because they use a word like Crybaby then read this post: http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=eclipse_trade&message.id=487496
QUOTE:
So the noob jedi can have the 5 BHs to take his scrub missions, so that nobody can hunt him.
You pathetic lowlife maggot parasite!
I dont know wather my friend was reported or SOE saw it them self...but it hillarius to bann a buy for using the word crybaby....and he is , in my world, right in his statement.
Master Flamer
Master I earn my money the hard way
what did u say??...sorry couldn't read with all the typo's yellin at me
SmokaFett1 wrote:
michael_rem wrote:
Well....the only whiners in this post is all you super crafters who are afraid of loosing a bit of money...
Well i guarentee you you wont. Its gonner be a whole different game, with new armors and weapons...btw, i dont hear the WS complain....so you will have tons of opportunies to make more money. You have always done so, when something new comes out, by overpricing the first few weeks.
So dont worrie, you wont loose a credit.
Another thing, 50% of the players are afaried of changes to the game....why...??...when they did the Jedi rewamp...dammit a lot of griefing and whining...did i write dammit...yes i did...i hope im not gonner get BANNED....
Last thing...Freedom of Speach say anything to you...if you hit on ppl because they use a word like Crybaby then read this post: http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=eclipse_trade&message.id=487496
QUOTE:
So the noob jedi can have the 5 BHs to take his scrub missions, so that nobody can hunt him.
You pathetic lowlife maggot parasite!
I dont know wather my friend was reported or SOE saw it them self...but it hillarius to bann a buy for using the word crybaby....and he is , in my world, right in his statement.
Master Flamer
Master I earn my money the hard way
what did u say??...sorry couldn't read with all the typo's yellin at me
drosta wrote:
We WS wont be effected much but AS are in trouble and I think theyare right to complain... I would have complained as well if my 124 rare and quality resources become worthless. btw I know those peeps saying they will quit ifdevs do bla bla, wont quit the game for sure lol heard that so many times before... So keep playing and try to have fun.
I have alot of friends who have said they will quit and did. I did it for 8 months when the developers nerfed Creature Handlers back in Fall of 2003 and I'll do it again. It suckstrying to build your character and build up wealth, only to have the dimwits at SOE drastically change the rules of the game. Kinda like building a house...you go to the city and ask them if it's ok to build a ranch style house in a new subdivision and they say yes. So you build your house and a year later the cityplanner comes by with a bulldozer and smashs your house. Then says "Oops sorry we changed the rules, we don't allow ranch style house anymore". Then people like you say "keep playing and try to have fun" as I look at my smashed house. I'm tired of seeing threads where people say the change is good...deal with it. That's the classic response I see fromcorporate managers everyday. They have no scent of direction or clue what they are doing and if one person says "we need a small change to a current system" the managers go crazy and try to do a complete overhall of the system...hint hint SOE!!After getting my house smashed by SOE for the 2nd time...I'm done.Trust me...there will beanother "Combat Upgrade" in another year or two and alot of people will get screwed again.
Message Edited by Instigator54 on 04-17-2005 10:02 PM
i've looked everywhere for documentation that states this.. can someone pls tell me if that is true? and where to read it???
Instigator54 wrote:
If SOE eliminates the Def vs AAs or CAs, ALOT OF PEOPLE WILL BE PISSED...including myself. If that does happen, I pray that a whole crap load of people cancel their accounts. I know I will. Then they might wake up if they lose half their customer base in 1 day. Can they be really that stupid? Is that really possible?
Message Edited by Instigator54 on 04-13-2005 09:15 PM
xifon wrote:
i've looked everywhere for documentation that states this.. can someone pls tell me if that is true? and where to read it???
Instigator54 wrote:
If SOE eliminates the Def vs AAs or CAs, ALOT OF PEOPLE WILL BE PISSED...including myself. If that does happen, I pray that a whole crap load of people cancel their accounts. I know I will. Then they might wake up if they lose half their customer base in 1 day. Can they be really that stupid? Is that really possible?
Message Edited by Instigator54 on 04-13-2005 09:15 PM
I have looked too and it is not stated anywhere, but in the skill-trees on test def vs states does not exist, except for jedi defender. Furthermore the combat professions defensive skill is gone (dodge, block and counterattack). They will be replaced of similar skills, like 1-h melee defense, 2-h melee defense and so on.
What we don't know today is if these def vs states still work in the background or not after CU. It would be great to get a answer about this matter asap.
I have posted in this thread(conversion boards) andmade a suggestion aboutSEA-conversions, if you agree please post to give your support.
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=convtest&message.id=118
Do NOT pm a dev about it 
PS. Wabs, do you have any ranged def CAs? 
Message Edited by Mogdath on 04-18-2005 10:30 AM
xifon wrote:
i've looked everywhere for documentation that states this.. can someone pls tell me if that is true? and where to read it???
Instigator54 wrote:
If SOE eliminates the Def vs AAs or CAs, ALOT OF PEOPLE WILL BE PISSED...including myself. If that does happen, I pray that a whole crap load of people cancel their accounts. I know I will. Then they might wake up if they lose half their customer base in 1 day. Can they be really that stupid? Is that really possible?
Message Edited by Instigator54 on 04-13-2005 09:15 PM
As of right now, I don't believe any of the Def vs. X skills are in any skilltree, not to mention that Dodge and Counterattack are gone, too. Unless someone does some testing to prove otherwise, I think we have to assume that these skills have all been removed from the game, and that any item that has a skillmod for one of those skills on it will be worthless in the CU. So far on TC-Bria and TC-Gorath, no SEAs or skill modded items have been converted to anything. My guess is that the devs aren't going to do anything about it. They have never once since the game launched done a single bug fix or clean up for SEAs and skillmodded items. I don't expect this to change with the CU.
For the last year and a half I have been collecting SEAs with the intention of putting together a suit of armor that would have +25 melee andranged defence, +25 to all the def. vs. X skills, +25 dodge and counterattack, +25 pistol and carbine accuracy and accuracy while moving, and +25 pistol and carbine speed. After spended countless weeks hunting, and spendingover 200mil credits, I managed to aquire all the SEAs I needed a few months back. Since then I have been patiently waiting for the CU, only now that its here, I find out that the vast majority of the SEAs I collected are about to be worthless. And its not just the SEAs. I have piles of high quality NS layers, amazing Janta Hides,Acklay RIS schematics, and uber yellow cubesthat I'd planned on using, but now it looks like all these will probably be converted into junk, too.
And I'm not the only one that's going to get hit hard. Go look at some of the posts on item conversion. There are amazing weapons that are worth 10-20mil on live that after conversion are less than 1% better than run of the mill crafted guns. Junk weapons that most people would have deleted are being converted to have better stats than damage sliced krayt weapons. Amazing low-HAM sets of armor made with the best resourses ever and tons of high quality NS loot are being converted to be no better than grind quality composite. Some of these might be bugs, but others are simply not being converted right because they devs have never had any clue just what is a good item in the game, and thus their conversion algorithms are ignoring all sorts of stats on items.
They say that the playerbase of MMORPGs can be broken down into four general catergories: Achievers, PvPers, Explorers, and Socializers. So far, the conversion of items seems to be a huge slap in the face of Achievers and PvPers. I understand that some things need to be nerfed, and I understand that some uber items were much too uber, but converting expensive items into pure junk, or not converting them into anything of use at all, is not an "upgrade" or a "rebalance". Its lazy, rushed, unproffessional game development, pure and simple.