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Thread: Spawn Camper and there Guilds Find Themselves in Very Actionable Positions

aries_liak
Fri Jan 28, 2005 9:40 am
#1

Finding all the good POI's camped? You want a fair crack right? Well you have rights to. PA operators you better not have campers out there all day.



5. You may not operate a Player Association (Guild) that habitually violates these rules.


Disciplinary issues involving Player Associations will also be addressed on a broader basis. Player Associations whose members habitually violate any of the Terms of Service, Rules of Conduct or Play Nice Policies may be disbanded. In addition, monopolizing numerous spawn areas with the intent to exclude other players will not be permitted. If investigated and verified by a CSR, monopolizing will result in the disbanding of the Player Association. As stated in Rules of Conduct section 8, Player Association leaders who condone, participate in, or knowingly allow such action may be held accountable for the actions of their members.





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majorslappy
Fri Jan 28, 2005 9:57 am
#2






aries_liak wrote:

Finding all the good POI's camped? You want a fair crack right? Well you have rights to. PA operators you better not have campers out there all day.



5. You may not operate a Player Association (Guild) that habitually violates these rules.


Disciplinary issues involving Player Associations will also be addressed on a broader basis. Player Associations whose members habitually violate any of the Terms of Service, Rules of Conduct or Play Nice Policies may be disbanded. In addition, monopolizing numerous spawn areas with the intent to exclude other players will not be permitted. If investigated and verified by a CSR, monopolizing will result in the disbanding of the Player Association. As stated in Rules of Conduct section 8, Player Association leaders who condone, participate in, or knowingly allow such action may be held accountable for the actions of their members.









Oh, if only CSRs actually cared about their jobs and would take action.

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Black-Sun
Fri Jan 28, 2005 11:53 am
#3

funny thing is that in the rules of conduct it also says that no one owns a spawn or SOE does not reconize ownership of a spawn so what your saying dosent realy make sence at all... like i say if you cant roll with the big boys then dont even bother trying.



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aries_liak
Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:40 pm
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Black-Sun wrote:

funny thing is that in the rules of conduct it also says that no one owns a spawn or SOE does not reconize ownership of a spawn so what your saying dosent realy make sence at all... like i say if you cant roll with the big boys then dont even bother trying.






Um... no one owns a particular spawn that is correct. No guild owns a POI. Which is what the ToS refers to in my post. Hence camping a spawn point all day and night makes it abundantly clear that a guild that supports these actions either by silence or direct profit can be disbanded and its leader face some disciplinary action by taking part in the camping of a location.


Its good to know that your guild thinks the actions of spawn campers is tolerable behavior though. Not 1 guild I have been a part of tolerates this behavior.



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Milgram
Fri Jan 28, 2005 2:43 pm
#5

Ya, when i go to visit Nyax, and find people already there, I call the CSR's so they can ban all of them, and I can have Nyax all to myself.




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Alristico
Fri Jan 28, 2005 2:56 pm
#6

If soe doesn't want spawn camping in this game then why does their code encourage it so much. I say until they install in-game mechanics to discourage spawn camping then its all about competition. If one guild is monopolizing nyax then get a bigger group with better weapons to gain loot rights. Otherwise how is anyone supposed to know when they cross the line.



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aries_liak
Fri Jan 28, 2005 3:12 pm
#7






Alristico wrote:

If soe doesn't want spawn camping in this game then why does their code encourage it so much. I say until they install in-game mechanics to discourage spawn camping then its all about competition. If one guild is monopolizing nyax then get a bigger group with better weapons to gain loot rights. Otherwise how is anyone supposed to know when they cross the line.





In-game mechanic: CSR intervention disbanding your guild, kicking you from the POI, banning or suspending your account.


My gues is you'll know when someone says dood stop camping this spawn andreports you.Then a CSR might show up and make a final determination.



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Alristico
Fri Jan 28, 2005 7:20 pm
#8






aries_liak wrote:





Alristico wrote:

If soe doesn't want spawn camping in this game then why does their code encourage it so much. I say until they install in-game mechanics to discourage spawn camping then its all about competition. If one guild is monopolizing nyax then get a bigger group with better weapons to gain loot rights. Otherwise how is anyone supposed to know when they cross the line.





In-game mechanic: CSR intervention disbanding your guild, kicking you from the POI, banning or suspending your account.


My gues is you'll know when someone says dood stop camping this spawn andreports you.Then a CSR might show up and make a final determination.







CSR's are notan in-game mechanic, they are an in-game service. An in-game mechanic would be something like if afkers were auto booted from buildings/caves after 10minutes or if players are only allowed a certain number of loot attempts per hour.


and when is spawn camping considered spawn camping? its all subjective unless soe makes an official statement. Should it be after the first kill? 5th kill? 10th kill? 100th kill? Who knows, Technically someone is spawn camping if they stay to kill the same thing for the second time. Should this be penalized?




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Liander
Fri Jan 28, 2005 7:31 pm
#9

ok...thats a good idea...but with all honesty...if that happens...then the guild will reform and the people that caused that will stay unguilded and still camp...but once again...anyone can get a group up and go outdamage them...so shut up...get a group...and go to it. quit crying and play the GAME. to me it shows that a guild is trying to work together to make all their members as good as they possibly can. OR here is a novel idea...make elders drop more GOOD loot so people wouldn't be camping nyax 24/7....when i kill something with 300k+ ham and i get a cargo pocket...sorry man. I getting a group and going to nyax where at least i might loot something worth keeping





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Black-Sun
Fri Jan 28, 2005 9:22 pm
#10

rolf quit crying... next thing im gona hear while down there will be "omG y0u H1x wh@t ar j00 d01ng sploiting this s9@Wnnnnn!!!!!!!! 1m s0 telling a CSrrr of U ur so baned from the serv3r"

i respond with a "/shrug"

other guys respondse wiht a "ReEEEEEeEEeee 11111elevendyy111111111, ohh ur so g01ng to b3 b@n3d j00 hax"



well what else is new, go cry some more bc me, soe, nor csr's care about this at all.


btw go watch www.pwned.nlbecause every1 postin about this stuff is like this pysco nut in this funny a$$ vid



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Terv
Sat Jan 29, 2005 12:31 am
#11

HA HA that link is funny as hell


www.pwned.nl


I don't think telling on people or anything along those lines is a good idea, just let it go. SOE doesn't care, sad but true.

I used to go to the geo caves and set up a macro and get loot for weaponsmithing, most people in there knew me and would send a tell if they had anything I could use. was great for a long time and made a tonne of scythes from the stuff. Yet some places that spawn +10 SEA's and stuff are a pain, the ones who set up their AFK macro and loot the debris to sell the SEA's on the Auction forums are annoying. But really, what can you do? It's a game, it doesn't go your way all the time. Get over it. Some people you make friends with will help you out, even when you never even asked for help. All depends on the people. Lets leave it to Karma, it all comes back, if you are a camper or a jerk, word will get around.




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Round-eye
Sat Jan 29, 2005 1:31 am
#12






Black-Sun wrote:

funny thing is that in the rules of conduct it also says that no one owns a spawn or SOE does not reconize ownership of a spawn so what your saying dosent realy make sence at all... like i say if you cant roll with the big boys then dont even bother trying.






looks like we know who's guilty here lol



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Burebista
Sat Jan 29, 2005 5:20 am
#13






aries_liak wrote:





Alristico wrote:

If soe doesn't want spawn camping in this game then why does their code encourage it so much. I say until they install in-game mechanics to discourage spawn camping then its all about competition. If one guild is monopolizing nyax then get a bigger group with better weapons to gain loot rights. Otherwise how is anyone supposed to know when they cross the line.





In-game mechanic: CSR intervention disbanding your guild, kicking you from the POI, banning or suspending your account.


My gues is you'll know when someone says dood stop camping this spawn andreports you.Then a CSR might show up and make a final determination.





Do you have any ideea about how pathetic your statements are ? If a CSR will ban an account because someone want to stay in a particular place to kill a particular monster in this game ... I think he will have problems with SOE himslef mate. SOE want loot competition in this game so if you are not ready to have this competition no need to be upset about some people who has more firepower than you.


So pls stop making those kind of statements here hoping to scare some guys playing corectly this game just because you cant get a loot.


Btw, do you know that threatening other people with banning accounts is illegal by SOE standards ?




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