Image Designer Archive
Thread: Petition to let Master ID's keep the ability of interracial hair design
After reading the hotfix replies, it seems to me that there are quite a few people (non-ID people) that really would love to see this "bug" stay. Many went so far as to say that Master Image Designers should have the right to make these kinds of changes.
I personally think it has added something to the otherwise standard, boring look that everyone gets. Yes we can change your eye shape or get rid of that pot belly.. but we don't have the ability to really give you that unique look that everyone craves.
I can't see how it was hurting anyone other than the fact that it allowed any person with basic ID skills to use the "bug" but take that aspect away.. and would you really want to see this go bye bye completely?
I'm sure there are going to be some flamers out there who will bash me for posting this... but I just figure that I've seen too many people smiling.. laughing or doing a good hearty ROFLMAO at the site of a mon cal with curls. A friend of mine (Trandoshan) showed up with horns and a pony tail.. He is TKA and I have to say that this was the most awesome look for him! He was quite happy about it and I think all Master Image Designers should have the ability to make their customers happy like that!!
If you would like to see Master ID's keep the ability to totally customise someones appearance... sign here. Even if you think the bug should go and we should just get MORE choices to work with.. SIGN HERE.
I love doing ID for people.. I just wish it didn't always have to take a back seat on the updates to all the other problems. I understand why it needs to.. but all the time? It would be nice to see a major patch come out listing 100 new styles for us to use for a change instead of always seeing "Improved server stability" or "fixed an exploit where so and so could give so and so something or other".
/sign
Rhapsody
Master ID - Eclipse Server
it seems that the exploit fix is being made retro-active!! 
for anyone wanting to read this for themselves heres the link.
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Developers&message.id=16767
I agree for certain things, the existing hairdos could be adapted. For example, there's no reason humans should not be able to have the tendrily-bun hairdos of the bothan ladies. On the other hand, I think the human hairdos are inappropriate on Zabraks, unless horns are added. Furthermore, the existing hairdos are inappropriate for some species such as mon-cal, and anything that involves implants (i.e. horns on trandos) is a no-no. But giving more braiding options to humans and zabs - eh why not.
I think it would be nice to adapt the existing art, where appropriate, to give hairdos that "make sense." But other than that, I'm glad that the bug is gone, and I have no desire for its return.
I vote no as well ,,but for perhaps different reasons:
1. Its a "cheap" fix for the real problem of bad styles and lack of desireable styles.
2. Its outside the continuity of Star Wars in general
3. In a subtle way it confirms that the original exploiters were right to do what they did.
4. And finally ,,Expert hair stylist has always had all the styles and I would not vote to change that either.
The real solution is new styles, new capabilities and options ,,not a "hot fix" by allowing styles that were never intended for other species.
The fact that we need more styles is a given. There is no argument. However I would argue the ability for interracial and gender styles.
It should not be possible to give any race that is not a twi'lek, lekku.
And it should not be possible to give a non-rodian male frills. Or a non Zabrak horns. These are racial exclusive styles and should remain that way.
However, the races (or gener- like rdian females) that have hair should have some styles that can cross species. Maybe not EXACTLY (as in hair color etc- Rodians can have green hair.).
The classic bob, for example. We have it for human women. But why not Rodian? Or even Bothan? Bothans have very thick hair, so the style would not just be 'the human bob cut' transfered. Their bob would be thicker with more body. And a rodians would be able to be all rodian colors. But it is still a bob.
The Zabrak needs more styles that INVOLVE hair (not entirely hair though.) I could think and draw up so many different variations that are not 'standard pony tail' and if I can do it then our developers can. (Heck... see the concept sketches... they can do this.)
So, They can get a great number of 'new' hair styles by simply adjusting existing hair styles for other races, as opposed to allowing 'cross species' hair styles.
As a rule, Zabrak can NOT have a full head of hair.
Why?
They already do.
How?
You know what a rhino's horn is made of? The same material that makes up hair- only this material is high dense and so compact that it has created a completely solid 'horn'. Same with your fingernails.
What a zabrak's horn is, at this point, is the hair that they would have on their head- only compact. This would mean all the hair would be horns- exceot the back of the head, which seems to not have horns- and if it does, then the zabrak has no hair. Medical removal of these horns would not cause hair to grow- PERHAPS, it would grow a new horn. But not lose hair since a zabrak is genetically going to grow horns, not loose hair. (Cosmetic surgury? Something tells me that Zabrak would be insulted to be offered human hair- their horns are like their tatoos- important and not to be taken lightly a symbol of honor and pride)
Of course, we could say these horns are like a cow, buffalo, bison, elk, moose or deer.
At which point, they are bone. This would mean a boney extention of you skull that any surgical manipulation would cause damage that you may not like- such as retardation if the skull fracture (cutting bone is not a pretty process) And! You'd have horns even if you did have hair.
From a roleplay aspect- Zabraks are a proud race and to look like a puny human is disgraceful. At least that's what it would seem to me.
From any other standpoint- this is a racially unique trait that belongs only to this race, just as the tattos (of the caliber that zabrak have) should only belong to zabrak. Each racehas its ups and downs. You sacrifice the hair for the attribute mods. You want human hair- you should have made a human. You want Lekku, make a Twi'lek.
The only hair styles I see as being 'interracial' are ones that can be 'adjusted' to fit the other race. There are some rodian styles I think only minor tweaking would make look good for Zabrak (The addition of horns for example) But the horns are here to stay.
Well, if you can create a zabrak in the beginning that has no horn in the head,i don't see the problem of having "human" hairstyle for zabraks without the horns. I don't see understand why all these people are against the interacial hair designs. If it's an exploit, move it to the master ID box. If you don't like interracial hair design, don't make your characters to bethat way. But don'tcomplaing about take away other people's freedom to customize their characters to their liking. That's like saying everyone shouldn't wear certain clothes because you think they are inappropriate.
Daboora
Proud Zabrak who liked his hair b4 it got shaved.
P.S. I want my hair back
/sign
Alright. Then you tell someone to breed you a Chinese Crested dog with a full body of hair alright? Tell me how you do.
The Chinese crested has hair on the outside of the ears, and on the tail. That's it. Hair all over it would make it... well, something else but NOT a Chinese crested. Hair on a Zabrak would make it human, NOT a Zabrak.
You can not give a leopard stripes and call it good. That would be a tiger. Wanna be a tiger? Make one.
Ninja007 wrote:
It was retarded, looked retarded, & made the game stupid & silly & took all immersion & fun away except for the few jerks using the exploit & craving a sad little bit of attention. For ONCE the Devs fixed something right.
I agree.