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Thread: Can ID's Add Patterns to Armor?

vinterthoor
Mon Aug 30, 2004 7:36 am
#1

I once sold a suit of mabari to a kid. He wanted it red & black with stripes. I told him the colors were no problem but I had no way to put stripes on it. He insisted it was possible and bought the armor. Later on he sent me a tell saying he found an ID who did it for him. Not too long after this I saw this Master AS, Master ID that had VERY nice set of black & white padded with this sleak grid design on it.

Now I assumed this was an ID thing I made a suit of very low encumbrance padded for myself and asked a guy I met at the salon to do it. He said he didn't even know that ID's could do that. He was still working his way up the tree so I found a master later on and asked. The only response I got was No.

So what's the deal? Can ID's change, add patterns and colors to armor?



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Syzygy-Gorath
Mon Aug 30, 2004 7:56 am
#2

in 6+ months of IDing I've never seen an option to do anything to anything other than players.



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vinterthoor
Tue Aug 31, 2004 10:44 am
#3

I tried all the color combos I could to replicate it. But it didn't come close to what I saw. Someone in the AS forum speculated that these changes (stripes, patterns, etc.) can be made through an exploit. It explains some things but I have no way of knowing if such an exploit really exists.



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Darkagent101
Tue Aug 31, 2004 12:02 pm
#4

Are you sure it wasn't just the shading on the Padded. This 'grid' pattern you speak of sounds suspiciously like the natural weave pattern on padded... which doesn't show up well on some shades of padded.



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TechnoCan
Tue Aug 31, 2004 5:56 pm
#5

Allthough I really love the idea it sounds like someone is using some lets say unauthorized stuff for this... I don't come with such suspicious lightly but this sounds like it can devellop into a serious problem in the future.


I just wished this to be an official feature of our trade, though...


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RaidenIV
Tue Aug 31, 2004 10:58 pm
#6

Wouldn't this be more related to tailors and armor smiths? Last time I checked hair stylists and plastic surgeons didn't specialize in decorating clothing.

I think the ID profession should remain focused on people, not objects.
CM_Ronin
Wed Sep 01, 2004 1:09 am
#7

Screw that. We are "Image DesginerS" Not Cosmetologist Surgeons...I will not stop until we are able to 'design images'



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RaidenIV
Wed Sep 01, 2004 5:59 am
#8

We are "Image Designers", Image Designers for people! We change people's images! Thats what the whole profession is about! If I wanted cool stripes added to my shirt, I wouldn't go to my barber, I'd go to a tailor.

I'm not against adding things to do for the ID profession, but adding things for the sake of adding them and don't really belong here isn't right.
Battosai-Wolfe
Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:30 am
#9

Well it is true, the Image Designer is the futuristic representation of the "Image Consultant" in real life today, which can give someone's entire image a make-over if they felt it was needed. That includes their house, their cars, their clothes, their physical appearance.. Alot of things can be encompassed by the Image Designer profession, as of now though they are just glorified stylists and plastic surgeons.
Cephme
Thu Sep 02, 2004 5:29 am
#10


I still think this is the role of the armorsmith/tailor. I don't want to step on their toes.

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CM_Ronin
Sat Sep 04, 2004 1:37 am
#11

ITs not stepping on their toes its creating a buisnes partnership. Much like CHs and Bio Engies- Bio-engis and Tailors, Rangers and anyone who needs resources. Im not saying let us edit their shirts and craft that Im saying give us the ability to make schematics of desgins and logos that can be placed on shirts, flags for PAs and other stuff via a schematic. We sell the tailor the schematic they sell the clothes. We are "Image Desginers" not "Character Designers" though honestly thats what it looks like. I am a graphic artist and I love everything about ID...I just want to be able to use my artistic expression and add a uniqueness to the SW universe. Follow link-sig it has tons of great ideas about image design. Its worth it.



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Kwee
Sat Sep 04, 2004 10:12 am
#12

We aren't just hairstylists, we are many many things ) There is much room for new ideas that would encompass altering someone's "image" without stepping on the toes of other professions. Well not stomping hard on their toes anyway




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Breestan
Sun Sep 05, 2004 12:08 pm
#13

Bah. I will always stand by the "We are not tailors" Statement. I don't know even a good tailor or seamstress who can take a bright red shirt, and dye it pale green. It can not and will never ever happen in the realm of physics and color. You can bleach a thing only so far- at the detriment of the construct.

You start ou with entirely 'clean' fabric. Be it natural or bleached material. Take bleached cotton. Now. You saturate those fibers with a color. What pigments you use determine the color (Salmon, Lemon Yellow, Crimson, Indigo) and how long you let the fiber saurate controls how dark the color is, or is not. .... removing that color entirely is impossable. And combining colors creates muchy mucky evil brown. It doesn't even create black.

And it takes a professional with professional products (dye, not your wal-mart RIT dye) to add a good color to something. ... The creator of the product (the base fabric) controls that. I would say that even in the age of success and millenia of technology that SW has, the only people equipped to pull that off would be the item creator. or, for flexibility, the class.

It bugs me to all heck that I can only find black clothes and the color can't be changed, but I survive.

ALSO. I have watched Shows where a "consultant" does a "renovation" of someone's image. .... I have yet to see that person actually do lipo-suction or a face lift and nose job. At the most they can be sure not to match bad colors, or dress you like a dweeb. But they do not actually perform a hair cut. Plastic surgery etc. And I've yet to see them re-upholter a green leather couch with Red Leather ... or take someone's Black shirt and make it yellow.

S "We reform their whole image!" is not really a valid argument at all, since everything we do encompases the physical aspects of a person's appearance (Their physical Image which is what we design). If I want my jacket yellow, then I might as well swallow my pride and order one while selling the old one on the bazaar. And the creators of armor and furniture need extended (or in the furniture case any) color palletes.

.... frankly... I do not want to have to sit there and re-color or re-design an entire ward robe, thank you very much. We thought 10 minutes was bad enough? Besides, it would have to require components for re-dying, and then we are nothing more than a crafting class. ... Thank you. But no.




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