Image Designer Archive
Thread: Faction-Differentiated Pricing
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SFXGenesis
Tue Sep 21, 2004 6:01 am
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Ladies & Gentlemen of the ID Community:
I recently decided that it was time to begin playing my role in the GCW. This comes from becoming a TKM, I guess, and actually getting involved in the combat side of the Galactic Civil War. Therefore, I have decided to institute faction-based pricing which will charge Rebels a significantly higher fee than it does my fellow Imperials.
Now...the only exception to this will be entertainers. Entertainers are one of the lifebloods of the game, in my opinion, and being one myself, I refuse to overcharge family. They will still receive the same flexible fee schedule that I have always used, as will my Imperial brethren.
I want the opinions of people who I trust most in SWG...my fellow Image Designers. Do you think this is an acceptable practice? Do you use it yourself? Do you disagree with this practice? What are your thoughts and opinions regarding it?
This has been a recent hot topic in forums for doctors and other service professions...and I think it is high time we discuss it to. No need for shouting and yelling and flaming...let's leave that for the leets.
However, I'd really be very happy to get some opinions on this from my fellow IDs (yes, that was intended to sound very presidential /grin)
Thoughts, opinions, feelings?
Love,
Dan
SakeO
Tue Sep 21, 2004 6:52 am
#2
I think it is fine. Refuse them if you feel your character would not work for someone of the opposite faction.
Keep in mind, you are likely setting yourself up for some heated arguments and potential griefing.
Chasing Amy - Bria
tiberius4327
Tue Sep 21, 2004 7:04 am
#3
I agree completely
Most people complain that the GCW is dead and that no-one is bothered about it, so if ID who are part of a faction decide to do this then it can only be a good thing.
That's not to say that people won't moan about it, because they will (and a lot of them will be the same people that moan about the decline in the GCW).
However, how will you implement this practice? Will it be simply applied to overt players or will you be askingeveryone their faction before you ID them? If it is the latter, would they not simply tell their friends to say they are Imperial?
Cirroco_Una
Tue Sep 21, 2004 7:12 am
#4
Being as I have a Reb char, a neutral ( Cirocco, my IDer) and an Imperial, I think what your doing is only common sense.
It makes perfect sense for you to cut prices for your brothers in arms.
And being as I'm imperial biased.. >_>
Long live the Emperor!

It makes perfect sense for you to cut prices for your brothers in arms.
And being as I'm imperial biased.. >_>
Long live the Emperor!
Aynianu
Tue Sep 21, 2004 7:21 am
#5
Well only problem i see in this is that if your going to roleplay the side you choose, then being a rebel ID, iding in Bestine tent and refusing imperials or charging them more seems a bit rediculous to me. Rebels are supposed to be the minority and a non-combatant proudly oposing the imperial rule while in theirtowns just feels wrong, if you are going to actrebel and refuse to use skills on imperials or vice versa then id suggest being overt or in rebel run towns. Altho being an Imperial ID seems to be more viable given the tent locations, and easier to roleplay a reason for being on that team.
Being Neutral myself and a roleplayer in general. I wouldnt align myself to one or the other, and avoid factional disputes entirely if i can 
Fortunes_Lady
Tue Sep 21, 2004 7:27 am
#6
I love the idea of faction-differentiated pricing. I'm always free for guildies, and fellow IDers (ya know, stat migrations), and charge only tips for everyone else. If I didn't do it this way I would probably double the set prices for any rebels. In fact, maybe I should just ask tips from fellow Imps, and charge the terrorist scum...
Erann
Tue Sep 21, 2004 7:36 am
#7
I charge double for rebels. but I'm only firm on it for the guild enemies... Factional pricing is more of a conversational peice.. although... I have had rebel bolt out the door when they examine me.
Electro
Tue Sep 21, 2004 8:21 am
#8
Do what makes you happy, but expect to get hassled for it from the faction members who you are not supporting. Personally I don't have a price list anyway, so it's a non-issue even if I cared a fig for the "war."
TechnoCan
Tue Sep 21, 2004 8:38 am
#9
I don't see any problem with this pricing-politic either. Sure, there will be some quarrels with players not understanding your motives, but it's not like we don't see complains over pricings here and there with any other method of deciding for a price to charge. I might might be rebel by heart, but if someone tells me, he is charging me more, because I'm more or less a wanted criminal (or atleast associated with them) I have to accept that and either pay the price asked or seek out someone more sympathic to my cause. That's roleplay, too 
So there is nothing wrong with charging more to people that you don't like or trust or don't want to be involved with for one reason or another.
FuschiaD
Tue Sep 21, 2004 9:08 am
#10
This has been something that I've always done. I am a master of four professions across my two characters - three of which are used to offer services to other players. For ID and tailoring, I don't have a faction-based pricing structure. Tailoring is obviously based on the resources, and for ID, I have always just worked for tips (except for stat migrations, which are a flat 20k for everyone). Dancing is another story, as was my doc buffing when I was one. I'm a die-hard Imperial, and I refuse to do anything that may potentially help the Rebels kill anyone I call friend. This means, quite simply, no buffs for Rebels (ESPECIALLY overts and known PvPers). Do I get griefed for this? Oh, yes. I've been called every name in the book. What they never figure out is that griefing me only strengthens my will on this matter. 
I don't do faction-based pricing for ID because changing someone's hairstyle isn't going to give them a tactical advantage over the enemy. For me, that's ultimately what it's about.
Madam
Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:50 pm
#11
I'm rebel and thought about doing this myself. My problem is that there are so many people wanting work done on my server and so little ID'ers that it's difficult for me to keep track what faction they are. For example, last night I was the only ID'er in the tent and for 2 solid hours it was non-stop. With a rush like that, it's hard to be impartial.
Erann
Tue Sep 21, 2004 2:56 pm
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True that... Too busy in tells and line order to care about faction...
Aori
Wed Sep 22, 2004 1:55 am
#13
I don't see any problem with Faction-Differentiated Pricing. It seems like common sense if you are aligned with a faction. I usually keep two objectives in mind, doing about this myself. One, is to be a good ID overall and to have a good reputation as one. The other, is to help out my faction where possible.
As for guildies and other IDs, I am more than happy to offer free services. I'm just happy to help them, so I feel like I'm getting something out of it just by being able to help them out with what they need. If they reallywant to pay, I let them know they are free to tip, or I offer a very discountedprice of barely anything.
I have a set of standard prices for my services for customers (stat migrations, holoemotes, cosmetic changes) all have a standard required fee depending on what the service is, however I'd still saythey are reasonable prices that fit with the going prices in the ID market. It's a very straight forward, "this is the required cost for your requested change, if you pay it, I'll do the change(s)" type of thing. For Imperials, the faction I belong to, I opperate on a tips system only, much more laid back, where they don't have the required standard costs, they just tip what they can and what they find reasonable. There's no required price for the service to be done, unlike with other customers. They usually end up getting a much better deal, and I'm much more understanding with them, because it's providing a service for the Empire. This system has been something I've been testing out lately and it seems tobe working pretty well.
For myself, I dont really look at it as overcharging the rest of my customers, but just discounting/cutting abetter deal to my own faction.I see myself as a business person, but I'm going to do whatever I can to help give my faction an advantage. Common sense. However, my prices aren't exactly set in stone. Sometimes they may be higher for someone and things like faction, guild, reputation, or past experiences with them (especially if theywere a difficult customer in the past), may be factors in this.
Message Edited by Aori on 09-22-2004 02:04 AM
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