Image Designer Archive
Thread: Newsflash: ID Building (Tent) now on Test Center
NJ62
Tue Apr 13, 2004 2:19 pm
#40
Not only are the tents restricted to NPC cities, but I find the number and location of tents disturbing and terribly limiting, and not really meshing with our playstyle. The more necessary or beneficialthe tents end up being, more more disturbed I will be. Tying us to a building for benefits, well that's a change that I think we can live with(medics and entertainers are)- but tying us to 6 cities on three out of the seven habitable planets is horribly restrictive.
Metis_Onea
Tue Apr 13, 2004 2:34 pm
#41
Vreni Island doesn't make sense! And.. ew.. Coronet. 
I can understand the reason for having it there but.. the lag! 
Tyrena would probably be a better place to have one.
'mm.. that's all I got other than .. Yaaaaay!
Sir_Voor
Tue Apr 13, 2004 2:52 pm
#42
Just because they are using only six to start off testing does not mean that there will be only six when it goes live. Also I'm getting the feeling the tent only things will be for temporary parties IDs and not your adverage ID stuff, so if trueit makes some sense to put the tent where the most parties are. Does anyone know if Vreni Island is a common place for parties or weddings?
Kwee
Tue Apr 13, 2004 5:35 pm
#43
MORE INFO 
The tents will be in five cities and there are currently no plans to add more cities to that list. Again they are: Theed, Moenia, Coronet, Vreni Island, Bestine.
I did get some feedback from our dev about why those cities were chosen. Apparently the devs wanted to aim for one busy city and one artsy/leisure city in Corellia and Naboo. Vreni Island is where the outdoor theater is, very pretty town, and isoften used for weddings and roleplay events. Moenia is actually a pretty busy little city in Naboo (at least on Starsider).
Tatooine just got one tent (in Bestine)because of it's less advanced culture. Our devsays that Tatooine got its ID tent because Jabba got tired of his entertainers begging him for one and his rancor got tired of eating their tender entertainer meat after theybugged Jabba. He thought it might be fun to have a mission where the goal was to heal Jabba's rancor's sweet tooth cavity 
Aww he thinks we're sweet.
Aww he thinks we're sweet. *rethinks her residence's nearness to Jabba's Palace*
The other planets were deemed too remoteto possibly house such advancedtenets of civilizations as Image Design buildings.
Let's give it a few weeks and see how it goes, the devs will always be open to hearingour feedback at the very least
Message Edited by Kwee on 04-13-2004 08:37 PM
NJ62
Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:10 pm
#44
I still don't think limiting it to 5 cities is particularly fair, considering that we were encouraged to move out into the boonies by the player city caps and for most things can get everything we need from player cities. Other professions are not so limited. Essentially every profession can "take it on the road" with the help of a droid or camp, with the exception of BF healing that must be done in a cantina... or a hotel.. or a player city cantina... or a private house.
Considering that ID's are accustomed to being able to take the show on the road, and considering that no other profession is so burdened, I strongly object to this limitation.
(By the way, my corre hat is still off)
LeBob
Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:10 pm
#45
This one is in Coronet.
I think you guys (and gals) should get to place it in player cities.... our player cities need much much more stuff to bring players to them.....
/whisper casinos
btw Kwee, you'd get alot more traffic in this thread if a red name posted
Gyopi
Tue Apr 13, 2004 10:06 pm
#46
Do you have any idea of how many image designers can use a tent at a time? Are all of the terminals going to be in permanent use by a few IDers and those who don't get in early to take their spot are out of luck? If that is the case, then we need more than 5 tents with a few terminals in them. Once people are kind of forced to be in only a few places I think many of us will find more image designers on our servers than we really knew about.
Kwee
Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:43 am
#47
Please read back up through the thread. Your questions have come up often
Korrack wrote:
Do we have to be in a tent to ID? or are all the new additions tent only? Or what? That would just be stupid to force me back into the NPC city to do business. I work out of cantinas now. Was in Theed collecting music xp, now I live in my player city cantina. Please tell me it's just some silly bonus or something, or have they made me now work out of a tent of their choosing?
Kwee
Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:25 am
#48
I'm pretty sure the devs will be monitoring how many terminals are being used in each tent and hopefullly will adjust if needed. Right now there are four, but keep in mind that the vast majority of our skills won't require the use of the terminal, so even if a few ID's were all at the tent at the same time they might not all necessarily need to use the terminals at the same time. I'm very curious to see how it all plays out.
Gyopi wrote:
Do you have any idea of how many image designers can use a tent at a time? Are all of the terminals going to be in permanent use by a few IDers and those who don't get in early to take their spot are out of luck? If that is the case, then we need more than 5 tents with a few terminals in them. Once people are kind of forced to be in only a few places I think many of us will find more image designers on our servers than we really knew about.
Gyopi
Wed Apr 14, 2004 5:56 am
#49
Kwee wrote:
I'm pretty sure the devs will be monitoring how many terminals are being used in each tent and hopefullly will adjust if needed. Right now there are four, but keep in mind that the vast majority of our skills won't require the use of the terminal, so even if a few ID's were all at the tent at the same time they might not all necessarily need to use the terminals at the same time. I'm very curious to see how it all plays out.
In the long run I don't think there will be a big problem, but there may be a mad rush at the beginning. The first couple of days after the mini-patchshould be really busy for all of us!
Kwee
Wed Apr 14, 2004 7:56 am
#50
Here are the waypoints for the tents:
Theed -5130 4260 (next to the cantina, visible from starport area)
Moenia 4790 -4730 (next to the starport, visible from cantina)
Bestine -1440 -3700 (back behind the cantina)
Coronet -360 -4690 (offof anybeaten path)
Vreni Island -5150 -6370 (next to the cantina)
Kwee Concerns:
#1 - No player city equivalent. Access and cost difficulties for those who make their livelihood in player cities, particularly on remote planets.
- I strongly request that the tents be made player city buildings craftable by Architects andplaceable by Master Image Designers. We are the only profession that will be restricted to public cities to do some of our trade. Entertainers and Medics can do their thing in player cities. Even garages are available in player cities.
#2 - Placement of Bestine, Coronet, Vreni Island tentswill make the ID tents difficult to find (many players will never know they exist) and the ID's themselves feel isolated.These three are located in spots noone walks by. The Theed and Moenia tents by contrast are placed in ideal locations, with the Theed one right next to the cantina entrance and near the starport,and the Moenia one within sight of both the starport and cantina entrances. As a small profession that hasas a result always been hard to track down (and many players have therefore never used our services),we need spots in high visibility locations. We'venever had ways to advertise ourselves or a building to call our own. Now that we would like to be easy to find.
- Bestine tent - While technically by the cantina, it is actually towards the far back of the cantina by an entrance that noone uses. There is absolutely no reason for anyone to ever walk back there. I'd like to request that the tent be placed along the wallthat facesthe starport andmain cantina entrance, and runs by the bank/bazaar area.
- Coronet tent - This tent is the least likely of the five for anyone to see. It is in a far corner of the city where noone has any reason to be walking. The nearest building is ashuttleport, butseveral walls and large trees obstruct view of the tent. I'd like to request that the tent be placed facing or next to the entrance to the cantinalike the Theed and Moenia ones for visibility and ease of use.
- Vreni Island tent - This tent would be in a wonderful location in any town other than Vreni Island as it is by the cantina. However the presence of the outdoor theater negates the need for a cantina in Vreni Island so noone would ever go to that location (which is far far away from the outdoor theater POI and the shuttleport).Vreni Island itself is a great place to havean ID tent since so many player events take place there, andID'sare often asked to prepare entertainers, wedding guests, or models.Unfortunately the tent is where noone would ever see it. I'd like to request that the tent be placed by theoutdoor theater, in a spot that would be easily visible if youwere walking from the shuttleport towards the theater.
#3 - Interiorcoulduselights and decor to be a pleasant place for us to work(or hang out)and our customers to be worked on But I understand that is still to come Seating for as many people as possible (e.g. sofa chairs versus couches) would be wonderful to accomodate chatting Image Designers and waiting customers.
Message Edited by Kwee on 04-14-2004 11:04 AM
Sir_Voor
Wed Apr 14, 2004 8:20 am
#51
I have a concern and a question.
If the (particle effect/party IDs) are limited to tent, then I fear we will be stuck at the tent instead of being at the party. Like a musicain can pull out his tools of his profession at a party, so should we be able too.
Kwee, I know we will find this out when particle effects goes to the test server, but could you ask the devsif particle effects will change based on your /mood and/or /emotes?
/mood impatient off
FooeyFooFoo
Wed Apr 14, 2004 8:27 am
#52
It's good to see a building finally I'd like to see the following additions however:
a) They should be placeable in player cities, especially if it is going to limit the ability to perform the new abilities.
b) They should be listed on the planetary map including some sort of indication if theres anyone there or not like med centres/cantinas
c) Could a trainer be placed near/around/in the tents?
Accord to stratics there is no ID NPC trainer in bestine, vreni city or moenia
d) There needs to be a bit more decor in the rooms
Btw i can stand on the panels
Once again thanks to the devs for adding a building for us.
a) They should be placeable in player cities, especially if it is going to limit the ability to perform the new abilities.
b) They should be listed on the planetary map including some sort of indication if theres anyone there or not like med centres/cantinas
c) Could a trainer be placed near/around/in the tents?
Accord to stratics there is no ID NPC trainer in bestine, vreni city or moenia
d) There needs to be a bit more decor in the rooms
Btw i can stand on the panels
Once again thanks to the devs for adding a building for us.