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Thread: Petition to let Master ID's keep the ability of interracial hair design
<< And yet...we have bio-engineers that can manipulate DNA. So your leopard with stripes isn't really a valid argument. >>
It's actually a pretty valid one. A lion and tiger can be bread to make a liger. But it is a Liger. Not a tiger and Not a lion.
The starwards Bioengineers do no make HYBRIDS. They take the DNA of an animal that has a high armor rating and put that armor rating onto a different animal- say an Eopi, so now the Eopi has a better armor rating. However, it is not a hybrid of the animal with the armor rating.
Just like DNA manipulation in RL society. They take the little piece of DNA that is in a rice plant that is resistant to a certain bug and put that little piece into the DNA of a corn plant so now the corn plant is resistant to the same pest. The corn is NOT a hybrid of rice and corn. What Bioengineers in the starwars world do isn't that far fetched.
Sure they MIGHT be able to take the 'piece' of DNA in ahuman that makes hair and trade it with the part of a Zabrak that makes horns to give a Zabrak hair. However, the technique would be considered too dangerous to use on sentient beings. It takes thousands of rice plants to get it right and it is not garaunteed to work, so the odds of being able to use it on a sentient being are basically none. The risk of death is too high.
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I have been a master ID for around 4 months now and still love it. but that ... " bug " sparked people into calling me to give them something interesting i mean...
I have Bothan hair on a femal Human. and made it pink or purple .. it looked... NORMAL people were amazed and asked if - Punk - colors and Punk hair came out. i told them
NO and they got all mad at the DEVs. it was hillarious
Your not a master ID if you cant Change everything >_<
i mean does it hurt anyone ??
the game is pretty much off the Starwars stuff.
"Yup you're right, theyprobably could.. so why do you think we didn't see anything like this in the movies? Because it's an utterly ridiculous idea.."
In your opinion it is. Fortunately, you do not speak for everyone.
NotYourAvgEwok wrote:
Uh, yeah, WE can't do manipulate genes to that degree. But WE'RE not the ones flying at light speed, creating hover vehicles, building death stars, living underwater, firing krayt-enhanced guns, blasting off to Cloud City, slashing open tauntauns with our lightsabers, using the Force to manipulate objects, cloning sentient beings by the millions, playing holo-chess, being digested for 1,000 years, using our flying backpacks, riding our swoop bikes, or any of the other million things that are possible in the Star Wars universe. So no, yourleopard with stripes argument doesn't fly. If they can do all that, they can put horns on a twi'lek.
Yup you're right, theyprobably could.. so why do you think we didn't see anything like this in the movies? Because it's an utterly ridiculous idea..
Nope but the devs do.. and they apparently agree. So suck it up and move on.
NotYourAvgEwok wrote:
"Yup you're right, theyprobably could.. so why do you think we didn't see anything like this in the movies? Because it's an utterly ridiculous idea.."
In your opinion it is. Fortunately, you do not speak for everyone.
Just because they changed it once doesn't mean they won't change it again. I fail to understand why you're even posting in this thread.
The devs changed it becuz they are sick of hearing you whiney ID's who wanted it changed 
Way to nerf yourself. Way to take out the only positive contributionyou have forthis game. Way to take
Daboora
ID forum troll since the last patch.
By the way n'Jessi, here is my response
"there is no such thing as a zabrak without horns. There is one horn style that is practically invisible because it's so small, but it's still there. "
Actually there is. The reason why i know? I was debating to go all bald or having really small horns in front in the character creation screen. But seeing that you are a ID that doesn't do her homework, there is no way to change a zabrak to bald from an ID perspective ever since the beginning, unless you count destroying your hair in the inventory.
"There's no freedom of customization. This isn't a democracy, and we signed a contract abiding by the rules. Don't care if you don't like the rules. You don't have the "right" or the "freedom" to do anything outside the terms of service."
Actually it's very much like a democracy. Or else all the combat profession crying nerfs won't succeed, or all you ID's who cry about removing interracial hairstyle would not have succeed
"Lucas would call your "customization" interfering with his moral rights in his copyrighted creation. Moral rights, for those of you who don't know, is a body of law, originating in Europe, which essentially gives artists rights to prevent the defacement or destruction of their work, even after the work is sold. The idea is that even though you "own" the work, you have no right to do anything that will harm the reputation of the artist. Inslapping lekku on a wookiee, full hair on a zabrak, or otherwise "customizing" you are defacing Lucas's creative vision, and making a mockery of it. (If anyone wants to get into the nitty gritty of the dubious application of moral rights to anything outside the confines of VARA, for the love of god, PM me and keep it off the forums)"
Actually I don't know how George Lucas himself would have reacted. I personally would have think that he would cringe at all the Pets in SWG. However, since you have appointed yourself as the personal spokemen of George Lucas (being sarcastic here). I will not argue this point much further.
"In SWG, you don't get to wear clothes that are inappropriate to your gender or species. Males cannot wear bustiers. Females cannot wear smocks. Until recently, bothans could not wear grand healer robes. Wookiees cannot wear normal clothing or armor."
That's just sexist. Male can wear robes that almost looks like dress. I don't see a problem w/ male wearing hot pants either (even though it's more female oriented). As for things like twi'lek headpieces, i actually agree w/ you.
"Nobody is "taking away" anything. Removing this ability merely corrects a problem of people being granted hairdos they were not intended to have. Just because this bug was a way of life for some people does not mean that the devs are required to now add it to the game because some people relied upon it, and may have even made choices of race upon the theory that the hair could always be fixed by the exploit."
Ifsomethingthat's doablesince the beginning of the game and all of a sudden you removed that abilty. I don't knowsee how that's not "taking away." You can go back to using the phrase "fix"all your want. Bottomline is: something was there and now it's not anymore.
"It's not a matter of "if you don't like it don't do it" in an rpg where the entire world is an immersion. Many people don't want to even see it. I realize that some hairdos made "sense" - there's no reason a human should not have tendrily updos like a bothan. On the other hand, there is a reason why zabraks should not have a full head of hair, or that wookiees should not have mohawks. Cross species hairdos would result in people pushing the envelope to the point of absurdity, as they are now. This bug was around for months, twi'leks were given human hair, and humans were given neon rhodian hair, and it was bad, but not at the forefront of discussion all the time. When it became a serious problem and caused an outcry was when wookiees with lekku and other sorts of atrocities appeared. Clearly many people cannot be trusted to make wise choices that do not visually harass other players. FOr this reason, each species needs his or her own hairdos. Granted, there should be some crossover - some human hairdos can take cues from the bothan updos, and the zabrak females should be able to choose from some of the "partially bald" human styles, with horns added."
So by your account all the people should be roleplayers in this game? or they shouldn't play becuz of the immersion factor? That the devs should remove all the players that has "stupid" names becuz it wrecks immersion? There will be people who are wookies that have twi'lek, just like there will be people w/ stupid names. However, a majority of the people outside the few stuanchindividuals in the ID community thinks that in general is a great thing, and that they are using the trick to make them look better.
Finally, I should have PM'd you, but seeing that you didn't show me the initial courtesy. I decided to keep this last reply on the forum.
NotYourAvgEwok wrote:
Just because they changed it once doesn't mean they won't change it again. I fail to understand why you're even posting in this thread.
Because this is a thread about this particular issue. There are people for it, and people against it.. the opinion of those of us against it are no less valid than those for it. We have just as much right to speak up about how nonsensical we think this entire petition is.
As for them changing it back.. that's a complete pipedream.