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Thread: A 30 Sec time limit period for any change is MAX what it should be.. Let your words be heard here!

Cry4Dawn
Thu May 13, 2004 8:14 pm
#27






Nema0879 wrote:





Cry4Dawn wrote:



#1 I was making a point and time wasnt the major part of that point. Problem is, when you use false information to prove a point your point becomes irrelevant and your innacurate information that was used to make someone else look stupid overwhelms your comments.
#2 even at 15 secs its only 90 secs total to do all 6 buffs That's exactly what I said ... yr point?
#3 get on a real server if its taking you that long I'm not the one complaining - you are - get a real server? What In the world does that have to do with anything?





I suggest if you feel the need to flame anyone with a differing opinion than you that you may need serious help - Not everyone in this world is going to agree with you all the time and by attacking them by saying " where did you get your information from" yr essentially calling them stupid - this sir is unacceptable and the only reason I felt the need to come back and correct you on this point. Respond civilly or I am done here as I'm sure I'll never convince you on my points and you will remain steadfast in the opinion that you are always right.


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I am not even going to give you the post reading for your comments you have made here because from reading the first line you are spouting out garbage that didnt need to be said! Your post is invalid and so are you..



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mmaughme
Fri May 14, 2004 12:43 am
#28

I disagree, Dawn. I don't think there should beANY timer for cosmetic or physical changes, but I think the 10 minute stat migration timer should remain, but for the customer ONLY.I see no reason why the ID should be penalized 10 minutes of their time to perform this function.


Further, I think the prior stat migration functionality should be put back in. The customer can either wait several days as was previously done, or see an ID to have it done right away.


The timer is just miserable. This morning somebody wanted a bunch of work done. I did it. After I was done, he asked me to change his eyebrows. Sigh. Another minute standing there waiting for the timer to run down. It's BORING.





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Lunah
Fri May 14, 2004 4:20 am
#29

/sign


The 5 min timer for eye color change is just unreal. 5 min for a xp worth of 300. Even in the tent doing nothing but wait for the timer gets boring real quick. 5 min and even 2.5 min is way too long. I agree that it shouldn't be possible to master the profession in matter of an hour. It also is suppose to be fun. Waiting is never fun.


As for the stat migration. That's a tough one. Its 10 min for 900 xp. If they remove the timer it again becomes possible to relatively easy get to Master ID. It might be better than to just remove the timer and have it becomean option you can use only once a week. 10 min of being idle for both the ID and the client is insane. Tho it shouldn't be easy either, how to fix this one i am not entirely sure about. perhaps there should be an external timer for the stat migration. so that an ID can start on another client, but not yet perform a new stat migration and the client can just walk off knowing that his stats will migrate over the course of 10 min.






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Kraftomatic
Fri May 14, 2004 4:32 am
#30

5 minutes for eye color and 2 minutes for other simple changes are really too much..and 10 minute stat migration.


These timers really need to be REDUCED or elminated at Master (maybe keep a 2min stat migration). Afterall.. a master is a MASTER. Does a MASTER Rifleman shoot at a 10 second cap? Does a MASTER Teras Kasi or a doctor / combat medic / etc get
Hegpetz
Fri May 14, 2004 5:24 am
#31

/sign


And to the doctor argument - you are guys are missing the big point. It does NOT matter how long it takes a doctor to do two buffs, because you see, the buff is instant - from then on the doctor can do whatever else he wants OTHER than applying buffs, this includes doing other medical-related actions. Image Designers must WAIT the ENTIRE duration of the timer before they can instantly make the changes appear - they can't just walk off, they can't go fight, they can't go heal hurt people, they can't do someone's eyes while they wait for the other person's hair to change or you could roleplay dry or something. My point is that unless the doctors have a big window blocking their view, and that they have to wait for 2, 3, however many minutes before the can actually do the buff instantly then it is a moot point that shouldn't even be in this thread. Sorry for wasting anyone's time, just wanted to remind some people....


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Maisland
Fri May 14, 2004 5:44 am
#32

/sign


I mean, come ON, was it REALLY neccesary to make us wait long enough to go make a sandwiche, pop into the restroom or maybe watch a tv show just to do a change to someone? (Ok, so the bit about a tv show is a slight exageration.) I had barely started working on ID before the change, it is miserable trying to get any xp.





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Simulation
Fri May 14, 2004 5:49 am
#33

-sign-


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I think the 10 minute timer or whatever for stat migration should stay in, but be on the client side only. No need to tie up the ID with this as well.


The timer should be reduced considerably, and I'm fine with that at the master levels there. I can see why they put the timer in to help make this not just a profession that is easily mastered in 2 hours or less, but something you have to work at, however, that wait is just crazy, especially if the client jus wants small changes ..





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chrisvb
Fri May 14, 2004 6:10 am
#34

agreed. five minutes is too long. They accomplished taking macros out of the ID profession, they shouldn't make it unbearable. Its already a profession almost no one wants. This will make it worse.
MarinhaTiga
Fri May 14, 2004 6:44 am
#35

With the new UI changes the timer isnt needed at all. You cant macro image design anymore, NO TIMER IS NEEDED. Any amount of time is far too long.

If ANYTHING has to be limited it should be Stat Migration, and only on the Clients side. If you request a stat migratiuon from an image designer you should have to wait a set amount of time before you can do it again, the image designer should be able to move on with her life and to the next client.



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SithDoctor
Fri May 14, 2004 6:58 am
#36

If it takes 5 minutes to change someone's eye color, which is our way of getting xp. Then every crafting profession needs to be put in line with it for their ways of making xp. So instead of getting around the crafting tool timers by being able to use more than one crafting tool...limit them to using only one tool at a time. Just wait until you see the uproar that would cause if novice armorsmiths, weaponsmiths, architects had to wait on their tool to finish (over a minute most times, and not longer than 2 minutes even) before they could begin to craft another item. Don't compare it to the time it takes docs to buff. Compare it to the time it takes docs to craft a buffpack and you will see my point.
nomorenix
Fri May 14, 2004 9:21 am
#37

Im not an ID I just popped in to check out a few of the new changes, mainly holo emotes. Anyway I think the new timer is ridiculous, I hope its gets changed for both the ID and the customers sake.




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IssogiKa
Fri May 14, 2004 10:02 am
#38

I totally agree that this 2 min. wait period is pathetic. It does not take 2 min. to change an eyeshadow or a hair color.



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Priall
Fri May 14, 2004 1:27 pm
#39


/sign


I don't usually post around here, just read, but this is something that really needsto bechanged, and quickly. I hopped on my ID yesterday to check out the changes and practice a bit, but after waiting that first five minutes to change one thing, I sighed and gave up. I understand that the Devs implemented it so our profession couldn't be grinded in two hours, but at this rate no-one's going to master.


For example: 300 exp every five minutes... a first-tier box takes 10,000 ID exp... that would take roughly 2.7 hours to earn one box! And during this time you cannot do anything else! I consider myself a pretty patient person, but even I can't do that. /cringe





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