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Thread: For IDs Only... Is this really what we want?

MonkeyofDoom
Wed May 05, 2004 5:50 am
#14

Horrible, horrible, horrible.


The principal, of "party haircuts" is a good one, but I expected more like sparkly stars, halos of flame or similar "small particle" effects. But who's going to wander round with a ruddy-great skull bobbing about over their head?




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NJ62
Wed May 05, 2004 6:18 am
#15

My concern is that the visual emotes will be too short-lived for people to bother visiting an ID for them, because they'll wear off before the shuttle even leaves. Combine that with the fact that neither the community-at-large nor the ID's seem tohave much interest in them, and I feel like the poor overworked devs have wasted their time on a feature that will go largely unused. I'm extremely excited about the expanded palettes and interface, and hope to become a brighter twi'lek on TC /snicker.



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NarCranor
Wed May 05, 2004 6:19 am
#16

I just think that the screen shots are completely rediculous. I have a hard time coming up with a reason for using ANY of these. I mean, perhaps if you took several hours to design a bathroom in your house, and are all by yourself, and want to take a shower, youd use those bubbles. I guess you can call that an RP aspect. Still very strange. Giving us various clips barettes and SUBTLE particle effects really would have been the way to go.

Communication is key. Why work hard on something the community doesnt really have any interest in?



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Syzygy-Gorath
Wed May 05, 2004 6:24 am
#17






Gyopi wrote:





Syzygy-Gorath wrote:

/pointat FuschiaD

What she said.


When I saw the first screenshot (the one from the newsletter) I thought it was really cool—then I saw the rest of them and the full implications of people walking around with these things, even intermittently, hit me. I'd rather have had 1 new hairstyle for everyone.







The problem is that I am guessing that getting one new hairstyle for everyone is just too much work right now. The holo-effects just take some simple 2-D art. It just not reasonable to expect that any of the art intensive professions are going to have really nice new content until quite a bit into the space expansion. They have already dropped big hints that this is where the majority of their time is going.



And that's something that could have been cleared up with a little bit of two-way communication. I'm biased, I'll admit that, but the sense I'm getting is that these things really aren't what a large part of the community, or our customers, want. No matter how easy they may have been to implement, that's still some amount of time that could have been spent on something we do want, no matter how insignificant. The other big problem I see is that the first emote I saw was of the Imperial insignia—I'm very much afraid that it will be used as a rallying point to claim there's no need for something we do want: factional (among other) tattoos. So, for the zillionth time in the past two days: we need better, two-way communication. There's still a lot we don't know about these things, and a lot that we don't know about the status of any of our other requests. In this informational vacuum we can't present useful, meaningful discussion, and to my way of thinking we are forced into voicing our largest concerns for fear they come to pass otherwise.




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DrkSensei
Wed May 05, 2004 6:24 am
#18


Speaking as a consumer:


Those are an eyesore. They look like left over entertainer droid graphics they had lying around(as Aesie said). I was excited about glitter,hair accessories etc. These are a far cry from those. Speaking as a role player....That is the stupidest thing I have seen yet . Not because of immersion but they are just plain tacky.So are new hair and skin tone pallettes still in? ( keep hope alive)


Edit: Just Noticed this thread was ID only..my bad


Message Edited by DrkSensei on 05-05-2004 06:28 AM



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Gyopi
Wed May 05, 2004 6:40 am
#19






Syzygy-Gorath wrote:



And that's something that could have been cleared up with a little bit of two-way communication. I'm biased, I'll admit that, but the sense I'm getting is that these things really aren't what a large part of the community, or our customers, want. No matter how easy they may have been to implement, that's still some amount of time that could have been spent on something we do want, no matter how insignificant. The other big problem I see is that the first emote I saw was of the Imperial insignia—I'm very much afraid that it will be used as a rallying point to claim there's no need for something we do want: factional (among other) tattoos. So, for the zillionth time in the past two days: we need better, two-way communication. There's still a lot we don't know about these things, and a lot that we don't know about the status of any of our other requests. In this informational vacuum we can't present useful, meaningful discussion, and to my way of thinking we are forced into voicing our largest concerns for fear they come to pass otherwise.






I agree that we should have better two-way communication. I posted that yesterday. I was just explaining why I think they decided to give the holo-emotes rather than new haircuts, etc. Personally, as much as I look forward to wearing the little pink kitties, if I had known that they planned to replace the glitter effects with holo-emotes, I would have said that we should keep the glitter! I think that would be a lot more popular, and since they would both be particle effects, I don't see why it would be more difficult to do. It seems to me that someone in the decision chain decided that we would like this better and changed it. This is where the lack of two-way comminucation comes in. Wemight have had the same basic idea, but done better if we had some idea of what direction they were going in.








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Korrack
Wed May 05, 2004 6:50 am
#20

It's sad that this little portion is what they showed us. Normaly when you want to get people excited about something you show them the best of what you have. As others have stated, these honestly look like leftover droid effects (everyone has seen the Dancing Jawas I'm sure). I hope the other content being updated is worthwhile. Color palettes, interface, all of the rest better be good. If your going to base a Friday feature on something, it should be worthwhile.


I hate to be critical, because I love this game, but I just find it hard to get excited about promised changes when they are often left to be half done, broken, or not what was promised. Imperial Crackdown? That was just a faction farm for the Rebels. Bestine Elections? Never a timeline stated, and after a month, if Victor won you got nothing? Then when you did get something you got a necklace any tailor can make? Act 3? Oh wait, the Imperials are winning, let's delay it for a while and make an official post that the Imperials are winning the the Rebels need to get it in gear (no favoratism there at all).


I don't think I want to be let down again. Honestly, I kept my second account waiting for this patch. I mainly play my DE nowadays. I dunno if I'll keep my other account if the developers drop the ball...again.



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Sir_Voor
Wed May 05, 2004 6:51 am
#21






Kwee wrote:

These are the particle effects, and were done instead of the hair accessories (glitter, streaks, barettes, etc) that were originally planned. An example of us being disappointed when things change I do agree we'll have to see them before making any judgements. They will all last under a minute and are intended to be used as visual emotes. They will very much be along the lines of what Sir Voor has been envisioning, fun short-lasting partyish effects, though I imagine they will be used in all sorts of ways. As for hair accessory particle effects I'm sure we'd all like to still see these. Don't assume we'll be left on the side for another 6 or 7 months We won't let the devs get away with that again will we We certainly won't get attention on such a large scale but there are still things being considered for us that might trickle in here and there, starting with our tents getting decorated in Publish 9





Don't blame me

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My guess is that glitter/hair accessory is out forLAG/load reasons, so I don't think we will see them anytime soon. (P.S. See if you can get us the reason for this being dropped, and you can add me to the list of disappointed IDers)


Questions:


  1. Do we sell one HE (Holo-Emote) that does 16 different HEs, or each one seperately?

  2. Can two HEs be done at the same time? Example; the skull and music notes at the same time may look cool.

Thanks

Message Edited by Sir_Voor on 05-05-2004 09:30 AM







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JuJutsu
Wed May 05, 2004 7:20 am
#22






Kwee wrote:


I'll pass along everyone's concerns/disappointment/etc. about communication and loss of hair accessory effects.





Add me to the list of concerned and dissappointed.

Syzygy-Gorath
Wed May 05, 2004 7:43 am
#23

Voor and Gyopi: while you both may be entirely correct as to why these holo-emotes were chosen over any other addition, we can't know until we're allowed to have the information through Kwee. (Please god, through Kwee—keep the red-name followers at bay, for the love of god!) Offering suppositions and suggestions of why the devs chose to do what they did may seem reasonable, but when the primary issue at hand is one of communication it can be counter-productive. In general we need more information allowed out via the corres, and in very specific this is one of those times. Why did we get stuck with these gaudy things? Why weren't they explained better, earlier? Why was the original glitter-type idea that was expressed abandoned? Leftover entertainer droid effects are not enough, and they will not satisfy me in regard to "new content."


I'm still very optimistic about the extended palettes, and about the new UI—but this, this is an insult.



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RUSKULL
Wed May 05, 2004 7:58 am
#24

I'd rather see IDs be able to apply these thingsoutside my house or in a player city.


see? Another good idea! I'm working for the wrong company I think, lol.








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Gyopi
Wed May 05, 2004 8:07 am
#25






RUSKULL wrote:

I'd rather see IDs be able to apply these thingsoutside my house or in a player city.


see? Another good idea! I'm working for the wrong company I think, lol.









Umm... Who said we can't? As far as I know they are not tied to the tents (the tents have a secret, undisclosed purpose which hopefully we will know later today). By the way, I am not trying to censor anyone and all opinions are welcome even if I disagree with them, but I think that the idea of this thread was that it was to be IDers only. We are a very small community and when a red name posts here it becomes almost impossible for us to communicate with each other because hundreds of people come in and start yelling about things. I am definitely not going to try stop people from posting, but I thought people might want to know why we are trying to keep a few threads for us only.






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RUSKULL
Wed May 05, 2004 8:21 am
#26

Gyopi, I'm going to trust that the DEVs think of these things too, all in the best interrest of what IDs want. It's only a few days from now where we'll actually start to see something on TC, so we'll just have to see I guess.






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