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Thread: This post warms my heart ;) Blair on cheaters & exploiters

Kwee
Wed Jan 07, 2004 10:34 am
#1

Blair on the topic of cheaters and exploiters...

Message Edited by Kwee on 01-07-2004 12:52 PM




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JuJutsu
Wed Jan 07, 2004 10:47 am
#2

Good news indeed.
tummygrumbles
Wed Jan 07, 2004 10:51 am
#3

You'll have to hang onto that link for the next time someone insists they're allowed to use an exploit until they're told not to.




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-NOS-
Wed Jan 07, 2004 11:34 am
#4

what was the exploit they were using?





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NotYourAvgEwok
Wed Jan 07, 2004 12:26 pm
#5

You'll note it was a "game-breaking exploit." Not something innocuous that has no absolutely no real effect on the game.



"Ironically, while researching this piece a representative from Sony asked us to keep in mind that many of the players complaining "weren't playing the class right," and that the class was designed as a solo experience. Such a comment is indicative of the original Ultima Online mistake: not realizing that once an MMO is released to the public, it no longer belongs to the developers, it belongs to the people paying $14.99 a month for the service."
Xazias
Wed Jan 07, 2004 12:50 pm
#6

you'll also note they said they will be taking the same action to anyone using ANY exploit from here on out.
tummygrumbles
Wed Jan 07, 2004 12:58 pm
#7






Xazias wrote:
you'll also note they said they will be taking the same action to anyone using ANY exploit from here on out.




Amen.



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Xazias
Wed Jan 07, 2004 2:43 pm
#8

Personally i think this was long over due. But im glad they are starting to deal with exploits the way they shouldve been dealing with them from the start.

NJ62
Wed Jan 07, 2004 3:30 pm
#9

I never thought I would say this but, I think they should have given a warning, something like "We know you did that, it's an exploit, and do it again, and you're banned." With correspondents asking for feedback on exploits so that gathered data may be accurate before transmission to the devs, it is entirely likely that community members have tried to replicate a bug/exploit for testing purposes, but have not used it for personal gain.


Summarily banning exploiters may only succeed in chilling communication between the correspondents and the community, because the community would be reluctant to report any exploits that they may have come across, and would not touch those exploits with a ten foot pole, even when data needs to be gathered.




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JuJutsu
Wed Jan 07, 2004 4:49 pm
#10






NJ62 wrote:

I never thought I would say this but, I think they should have given a warning, something like "We know you did that, it's an exploit, and do it again, and you're banned." With correspondents asking for feedback on exploits so that gathered data may be accurate before transmission to the devs, it is entirely likely that community members have tried to replicate a bug/exploit for testing purposes, but have not used it for personal gain.


Summarily banning exploiters may only succeed in chilling communication between the correspondents and the community, because the community would be reluctant to report any exploits that they may have come across, and would not touch those exploits with a ten foot pole, even when data needs to be gathered.





I must respectfully disagree. Giving exploiters free reign to do whatever they want until they're warned sends exactly the wrong message to the 'sploiters. If it means that data collection only happens with the internal QA people I think it's a small price to pay.
Metis_Onea
Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:02 pm
#11

The exploit had to do with smugglers slicing weapons multiple times. I'm not sure of the details, it's bound to be on the smuggler forums.


I do agree that people should be given warning, though. It is possible some smugglers didn't even know it was happening.





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NJ62
Wed Jan 07, 2004 7:34 pm
#12

Threads like this make me doubt summary banning.


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=smuggler&message.id=46101&page=1


I know this guy who is posting. To be completely honest, I don't particularly like him: I've known him since daoc and he rubs me the wrong way. But, even so,I'm pretty sure he didn't do this. He's not an exploiter.


I find it strange that punishment for this exploit has been publicized, when others, if any,have not. I find it also strange that many players, including the reputable one that I know, are protesting these actions. I find it puzzling, as well, that it seems almost impossible for these players to have sliced as often as is being cited (a single weapon 92 times).


I am all for the crackdown on exploits, but I honestly don't know what to make of the recent bannings. Whether the players did these things or not, I hope that they get a proper and fair investigation. Even exploiters deserve that.




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Soln
Thu Jan 08, 2004 1:40 am
#13

It might be worthwhile to also remember they're banning ppl in receipt of the benefits of an exploit. So if you own a multiply-sliced weapon or have a non-species hairdo, not only should you expect the people who used the exploit to give you those things to be banned, but yourself as well. That's a worthy decision by SOEIMO.



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