Image Designer Archive
Thread: I'm still here!
It's been a while since I've actually posted on this forum, and I wanted to give you all a heads-up on what's going on.
I know it seems like I dropped off the face of the earth here. But I'm still around. I've been trying to post more to my own galaxy's forum (Starsider) to get the word out about my PA, and my skills as an image designer, as well as becoming involved in the community a lot more. Image Design is one of THE most-social skills, and keeping up contacts is pretty important. Being the correspondant for Image Design makes it that much more important.
The Correspondant program is still running, although details with it are still being worked on. I've been getting regular updates from the developers about it, although nothing useful that I can really share about the Image Designskill yet. Once I hear something, I will gladly pass it on. ![]()
In the meantime, I have beenlurking in the background of this forum, taking hard-copy notes of everything that we've been discussing.The list ofwishes and bugsthat Ihavefor the developersis pretty loaded! And I keep a notebook beside my keyboard so I can add more as needed.
While I haven't been posting as much, I'm still very active. Last week's absence alone, was dominated by plans for my own in-game wedding (which had to be post-poned at the last minute, by the groom who got sick in real life). This week and next week, I'll becatching up. On September 20th, I will be leaving town for8 days, and going on a cruise to the Caribbean. But don't worry - this forum will be one of the last things I check before I leave, and one of the first things I check when I get back.
So in the meantime, keep on posting. I'm still around, and I'm taking plenty of notes. ![]()
No, Rilawyn. You're really not here. You're very noticeably not here. You're so not here that I couldn't remember yourname. I had to look back throughseven pages of postsbefore I could find the name of our missing correspondent.
In the last three months of your being our Image Design Correspondent there are only a few sporadic posts to be found from you at all in this forum. Your last post anywhere on these boards including Starsider, where you've spent the majority of your time and effort in the past, was postedweeks ago.
You say you're lurking here while you make efforts to get the word out on your PA? Well, I can understand that to a degree. However, my best guess would be that the majority of players interested in Image Design, that frequent this forum, were hoping for someone a little more active than a lurker for their Image Design Correspondent. Frankly, I think we deserve better than a correspondent who is so noticeably and remarkably absent inside the forum they're supposed to represent, that they come forward and admit that they know it looks like they've fallen off the planet. And thatthebest they can do, under theirbusy circumstances, is lurk and take notes here.
I have no idea how active you are inside the Correspondent Forum. No one here knows.But it's plain to see that you're far from active inside the forum that you're supposed torepresent.And though you were actively posting on Starsider for a period of time, even that has dropped off. I do see on your own PA boardswhere you've posted that you're activelycreating and playing a newSWG character. The reason being, you didn't want to drop Image Design on your current characterbecause you didn't want to give up being the Image Design Correspondent.All of this makes me feel as though yourprimary interest here is to hold the title of correspondent rather thanactively be a correspondent who represents a profession that they much care about. Andthat, in my mind,is not enough to make you the best person for the job.
At this point, even if you are somewhat active in the correspondent forum, which I highly doubt, I have to say that I have no confidence in you as our Image Design Correspondent.If you have been lurking this forum then you've seen no less than two different threads where people have talked about wanting a more active correspondent here. And stillthere's been no word from you. You seem completely out of touch and detatched from anything going on in this forum.
There's no shame insomeone being too busy to be able to be an effective correspondent, Rilawyn. But it is a shame if you know that you're too busy, or just not interested enough, and still you hold onto the position because you enjoy the title itself. If you wanted to do the right thing. If you wanted to show that you care about the Image Design profession, more than you care about the title of correspondent,I would think you'd cheerfullycleara path for someone elsethat you know could do a better job than you're doing now. I would think you'd contact ThunderHeart and let him know that a new correspondent should be assigned.
I said before that I wasn't trying to go out of my way to hurt your feelings by suggesting it was time for a new correspondent, Rilawyn. That still holds true. But I'm not going to sit around and spare your feelings bypretending that you're doing a good job for us here when you're not.So, I dobeg your pardon, but I'm going to continue to push for getting someone who I know will do a good job for us put into place as our Image Design Correspondent.I think you should do a little soul searching and help us all out by stepping up andwillinglypassing the torch.
Totally agree with MoonLilly. No personal offense to you at all, but posting here actively is just as important as "taking notes". It's important for the people here to get feedback from their correspondant. This isn't happening. I'm not going to say that your statement of you "lurking in the background" is an outright lie, but I'll make clear that I do have doubts about it. Nothing wrong with losing interest inthis job, a lot of players move on to different professions, or just find better things to do with their spare time than being correspondant. But then, I do expect from them to be honest and just resign, rather than explaining and finding apologies/excuses stating why they can't do their job. If youre not doing it now, and haven't been doing it (visibly) for months, I strongly doubt the situation will improve in the future.
I really don't understand this "We need a new Correspondent" thing thats going on....do any of you know what the job entails? Would you like to see constant "What does ID need?" posts that accomplish nothing?Does aCorrespondent with a huge post count equal a goodCorrespondent?Yes Kwee would make a good representative for the profession...but I don't think you can put Rilawyn down since none of us know what the hell we're talking about when it comes right down to it.
There issomething to keep in mind....we're a tiny minority of the population and unlikely to see any major changes due to that fact. Do you really expect a Corrspondent change to mean we'll get instant action taken on the bugs and screwy systems we're having to deal with right now? They threw us a bone with the colour palette changes...don't go thinking it's just the appetiser and the main course is due any second.
If this post causes any offence...than thats the way it goes. I don't intend this to be a personal attack on any one person...this is an attack on the attitude that seems to be slowly infecting this board.
Alter - Master Image Designer - Starsider
And just because we're not one of the biggest professions in game, you're saying it doesn't matter anyway whether we have an active correspondant or not? Lol. That's the most amusing reasoning I've ever heard. on the issue. According to that logic, it also wouldn't matter if we got a new correspondant. And I'll tell you what, I'd rather have an active correspondant, even if still nothing was changed about our profession. Cause at least then I could say "Oh well, we tried". And yes, a "huge post count" is one indication for a good correspondant - it's not the only factor, but the title *correspondant* implies that said person should be sending information back and forth between *two* parties. So even if our current correspondant might be sending information to the devs, she's still not doing her job properly. And I have strong doubts whether that alone is happening.
Define 'active' for me....someone who posts the same thing again and again on the board? If I were the Correspondent you'd be happy with a weekly 'Nothing new to report' post? A huge post count is not one sign of a good correspondent at all and if you think it is then your deluding yourself.Take a long look at this board, there isn't that much to work with. Our systems aren't 'game breakers', they don't negatively affect a majority of the population...therefore we are not a priority. Yes the bugs....well they bug me
but compared to some we have nothing to complain about. We have our problems but at this time nothing devastating...even when Hairstyles wouldn't show in the ID interface it was a major pain...but could be worked around.
As for the sending information back and forth.....what if there is nothing to send? I'm not saying because we're a tiny profession we should put up with an inactive correspondent...I'm saying because we're a tiny profession there may be nothingforan active Correspondent to tell us.
I'm not trying to get folks backs up...I'm just saying that maybe we need to take a step back and think about what the Correspondent can actually do for us. If you want toknow how active Rilawyn is on the Correspondent boards you could always ask another professions correspondent, just a thought.
Alter - Master Image Designer - Starsider
I got 2 starred. How's about instead of just starring me, somebody like Xixxix (who speakshis/her mind and has a good arguement) tells me their thoughts on this and convinces me that I'm wrong?
Alter - Master Image Designer - Starsider
Altared wrote:
Define 'active' for me....someone who posts the same thing again and again on the board? If I were the Correspondent you'd be happy with a weekly 'Nothing new to report' post? A huge post count is not one sign of a good correspondent at all and if you think it is then your deluding yourself.Take a long look at this board, there isn't that much to work with. Our systems aren't 'game breakers', they don't negatively affect a majority of the population...therefore we are not a priority. Yes the bugs....well they bug me
but compared to some we have nothing to complain about. We have our problems but at this time nothing devastating...even when Hairstyles wouldn't show in the ID interface it was a major pain...but could be worked around.
As for the sending information back and forth.....what if there is nothing to send? I'm not saying because we're a tiny profession we should put up with an inactive correspondent...I'm saying because we're a tiny profession there may be nothingforan active Correspondent to tell us.
I'm not trying to get folks backs up...I'm just saying that maybe we need to take a step back and think about what the Correspondent can actually do for us. If you want toknow how active Rilawyn is on the Correspondent boards you could always ask another professions correspondent, just a thought.
Alter - Master Image Designer - Starsider
Touchy subjects are often left untouched on this forum. Given the #views counts however many Image Designers must be following this thread and voting with their stars. Please not the date of the post made by Rilawyn. This wasn't a post she made recently. After that post she has come on twice. Once to share pictures of her cruise and the other to claim credit for the invisible hairstyle bug being fixed. I think there may have been one other to tell us about her birthday. Her absences have stretched for periods of up to three weeks. She is not even coming on for a weekly nothing to report which I agree would be the bare minimum to expect from a correspondent which as someone pointed outshould be definition be communicating with both parties. We should not have to ask another correspondent what our correspondent is doing if anything.
As for the fact that our issues are not game breaking. You're right they aren't. Butthen neither areany of the tailor issues and the tailor professionhas had two of the best correspondents in the game. Theyinitiate interesting discussions, collect information, make incredible summaries and lists, sticky pertinent threads to the top of their forums, etc etc. Andin both of their terms they saw great positive changes to their profession. And we tailors have been SO glad for it. Even something as small as having the clothingsubdivided on the bazaarcan send a player over the moon, at least for a week
For many players Image Design IS the game. Whether you consider it important or not in the grand scheme of things,for some it is why they arepaying their 12-15 dollars a month, and they deserve to have their gameplay problem free just as much as a *insert profession here*.Really there is not much I can add beyond mypost earlier in this thread.I've been disappointed.
As you can see from my number of posts, I'm more a reader then a poster(posting scares me, hehe)but on this topic I feel it's time to say something....
1. Your point that maybe IDers should talk to other correspondents in order to find out what the image designer correspondent is doing kind of points out the whole problem with this thing---Excuse me but, IDers should hunt up another correspondent to find out what the ID correspondent is doing? How about the ID correspondent just check in every once and awhile and tell us herself!
2. You're right in that the number of posts shouldn't matter as to the value of a correspondent--how about just one post a week? Last post made by the correspondent was over a month ago--see first thread on forum topic and please note the date....
3. Communication is the key --on the correspondent forum especially--but a correspondent is a representative of a certain profession and in my opinion needs to keep in contact with that community. The latter part is what many are upset about.
4. Image Designers are a small population and it is true that there are no game breaking issues, butwe are a part ofthis game and have been assigned a correspondent to representto us. Many are passionate about this profession and play month after month because being an Image Designer is what they want to do and because they're having fun doing it! (Games are about fun, aren't they?) ![]()
Novice Image Designer (Master is the goal!)
Oh, come now, Altared. Finally being vocal about wanting and wishing to have an upbeat, involved, present, correspondent representing us here is tantamount to an infectious bad attitude creeping in andinvading this forum?
I suggest that to not understand what some are saying they want here in a correspondent is an example of someone being willingly and willfully obtuse. Of course we don't want someone who canonly rack up a post count even though they have nothing to say. I think it's more than a little obvious that Kwee has offered this forum a whole lot more than that. Frankly, it's been my observation that she's done all the work for our missing correspondent. Which must make lurking and note taking a very easy thing indeed.
I can understand you stepping forward to defend your friend, Altared. But I think you're being more than a little unfair to suggest that we had no reason to come forward and voice our opinions about wanting a new representative.Actually, the more I sit here andread your post the more insulting it becomes to me.
You want people to hush up andexcuse the long and obvious absenses of our currentcorrespondent bysuggesting that we don't know what we're talking about or what we really need. I don't think I much appreciate you telling us that we should be quiet becausewe're looking for something unrealisticand unnesessary when we voice our desire for a more hands on and actively present correspondent. No one is asking for or expecting the moon here just because we want a correspondent who we know will go to bat for us and communicate with us.
You say, "They threw us a bone with the colour palette changes...don't go thinking it's just the appetiser and the main course is due any second.", as a way to suggest that we've no need to replace our currently inactive correspondent? Becauseit's no use anyway?Geez, that's a horrible reason to hang onto a correspondent who isn't doing their job.
I think you're entirelymistakento think that we need notbother finding someone torepresent us here that can continue to keep this forum upbeat and interesting. Someone who is willing, even if itbecomes repetitive, to be the squeaky wheel for us. That is exactly what we need.
There might not be alot of Image Designers in the game, but there are still a lot of people looking for and using image designer services. There's every reason to think that more game content will come our way eventually. It would be hard to go wrong adding game content to this profession.
But since it isn't a profession that effectsissues of balance, since it's purely dealing withaesthetics,it will take some effort and diligence on the part of our correspondentto see that we occasionally get taken off the back burner and pushed to the fore.
All that follows here are examples of exactly what we don't need in a correspondent. Someone who is never here, for whatever reasons. Someone who thinks we're such small potatoes that there's little point in promoting ourselves and hoping for further development in the game. Someone who won't take the time topromote and become part of the small community of IDers we have here in this forum.Someone who won't keep pushingthrough the boredom and aggravation of repeatingthemselves untilwe getat least someneeded attention.