Image Designer Archive
Thread: Brainstorm Thread for any and all Ideas to Improve ID
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Maisland
Sat Sep 18, 2004 8:42 pm
#1
Things I would like to see (I know that some of these have been requested before, but figured it wouldn't hurt to include them in the list):
- Cantinas, Theaters etc be places where the timer for cosmetic and body changes are reduced. (Stat migrations can stay in the tents though.)
- Nail polish (this would look real cool on the claws of a Trandoshan's feet)
- Scars
- Tattoos for non-Zabraks
- 3-D Facial hair for males
- More hairstyles, ridges, lekku etc
- The ability to give Zabraks hairstyles seperately from their horns ( have a favorite horn style for my Zabraks, but it doesn't come with my favorite hairstyle)
- The ability to ID vendors
- A "Register Location" ability such as Dancers and Musicians have.
Note: this list is not in any particular order and I will probably add more items as I think of them. Please add your own lists to this thread.
Message Edited by Maisland on 09-22-2004 12:37 PM
Message Edited by Maisland on 09-22-2004 11:35 PM
Syzygy-Gorath
Sat Sep 18, 2004 9:21 pm
#2
- body piercings
- multi-tonal hair (i.e. base color & hilites)
RaidenIV
Sun Sep 19, 2004 5:50 am
#3
Some things that i may think would be of use.
1. Confirmation message before closing the ID screen on both client side and ID side. Would save a lot of grief on both parties when doing stat migrations. Although I heard this was in the works already.
2.Client side ID screen needs to be improved imo. Ideally to me they should have all the options we can see and have the different tabs to check the sliders of their features and the colours, though they wouldn't be able to change anything, just monitor. They'd see all the options that the ID'er had available to offer for colours, patterns, hair etc. I think this would make doing the ID part of our profession much better as the client would have a better idea of what is available to them. They can see the colours, the hairstyles etc instead of giving vague descriptions on what they want, and asking us to go through every available colour for them.
Syzygy-Gorath
Sun Sep 19, 2004 10:48 am
#4
Client-side sliders were hotly debated when we were discussing what we wanted for the new interface and almost universally reviled. Many, if not most, IDs feel that such functionality would turn us into walking terminals and don't like the idea.
RaidenIV wrote:
2.Client side ID screen needs to be improved imo. Ideally to me they should have all the options we can see and have the different tabs to check the sliders of their features and the colours, though they wouldn't be able to change anything, just monitor. They'd see all the options that the ID'er had available to offer for colours, patterns, hair etc. I think this would make doing the ID part of our profession much better as the client would have a better idea of what is available to them. They can see the colours, the hairstyles etc instead of giving vague descriptions on what they want, and asking us to go through every available colour for them.
Kwee
Sun Sep 19, 2004 10:52 am
#5
Elaborate makeup 
) ---> Bindis, eyeliner designs, face paint
) ---> Bindis, eyeliner designs, face paintI've always liked CMRonin's idea of logo creation for PA's, etc.
FuschiaD
Sun Sep 19, 2004 11:19 am
#6
Hmmm... most of the things I would like to see in our profession have already been mentioned really, except for one thing: bright skintones for humans and Zabraks. I've always been bitter that I can't be bright pink! 
My number one wish is for tattoos for all races. Non-artwork additions aside, I would like to see timers reduced and/or completely taken away (which has already been touched on, I'm hoping it eventually makes it to live), and some safety precautions taken on the client side to ensure that unscrupulous ID's can't change anything the client doesn't want them to change. Oh, and my absolute biggest #1 issue: Make the stat migration timer client-end only. Absolutely, without a doubt, that is my pet issue.
My number one wish is for tattoos for all races. Non-artwork additions aside, I would like to see timers reduced and/or completely taken away (which has already been touched on, I'm hoping it eventually makes it to live), and some safety precautions taken on the client side to ensure that unscrupulous ID's can't change anything the client doesn't want them to change. Oh, and my absolute biggest #1 issue: Make the stat migration timer client-end only. Absolutely, without a doubt, that is my pet issue.
SunsetSam
Sun Sep 19, 2004 11:53 am
#7
Syzygy-Gorath wrote:
Client-side sliders were hotly debated when we were discussing what we wanted for the new interface and almost universally reviled. Many, if not most, IDs feel that such functionality would turn us into walking terminals and don't like the idea.
RaidenIV wrote:
2.Client side ID screen needs to be improved imo. Ideally to me they should have all the options we can see and have the different tabs to check the sliders of their features and the colours, though they wouldn't be able to change anything, just monitor. They'd see all the options that the ID'er had available to offer for colours, patterns, hair etc. I think this would make doing the ID part of our profession much better as the client would have a better idea of what is available to them. They can see the colours, the hairstyles etc instead of giving vague descriptions on what they want, and asking us to go through every available colour for them.
Agreed on the slider idea. With stat migrations I feel enough like a service terminal already to not want to add to it. However, on the client side, I'd like to see a general "allow modifications" checkbox. This would give the clients who only want stat migrats peace of mind that no changes would be made to them at all besides stats unless they allowed it. This would be a blanket allow/deny option for all ID work, not a per catagory toggle. I think that would be the most easy and elegentway to implement it.
FuschiaD
Sun Sep 19, 2004 1:09 pm
#8
TechnoCan wrote:
About the timers I can say, that if the devs stick to the settings they tested on TC last week it should be ok... 4 minutes for a statmigration isn't really very long and bearable for both, ID and customer as well.
For me, it's not an issue of what's bearable, it's an issue of fairness and equality amongst professions. Why in the world should we be forced to sit there and do nothing for ten minutes? Even FOUR minutes? That's always been a big issue with me, and it's one I would really like to see changed.
But yes, the bugs - especially the armor bug - really needs to be fixed. It's causing problems everywhere.
TechnoCan
Sun Sep 19, 2004 1:39 pm
#9
FuschiaD wrote:
TechnoCan wrote:
About the timers I can say, that if the devs stick to the settings they tested on TC last week it should be ok... 4 minutes for a statmigration isn't really very long and bearable for both, ID and customer as well.
For me, it's not an issue of what's bearable, it's an issue of fairness and equality amongst professions. Why in the world should we be forced to sit there and do nothing for ten minutes? Even FOUR minutes? That's always been a big issue with me, and it's one I would really like to see changed.
But yes, the bugs - especially the armor bug - really needs to be fixed. It's causing problems everywhere.
I know what you mean and I have to agree, that the time-reduction is only a compromise. But it's one I think we can accept as long as there is no better solution to how design the whole migration process in a more desirable way. And it does not mean we don't need to try to be creative and find this more desirable way 
ToppDog
Sun Sep 19, 2004 2:08 pm
#10
Well, I'm going to bring up some old stuff I still think would be great:
1.Bring backthe numbered slidersin the ID UI for performing precise alterations when needed, such as in producing twins or clones, or reproducing chars from different servers, or returning a customers recorded older settings, etc.
2.Design auniversal numbered color palette for ALL professions where color selection& color matching (where applicable) is more user friendly & familiar between the professions.
3.Create adroid module, or ID terminal that can be placed in any player owned structure, that would provide the same functions as the current ID tents. These would only be able to be operated by masters, ensuring that the novices still have the dedicated ID tents in which to grind & where customers can readily find them.
4. Add sliders for theHip/Butt areafor both genders. Butts look underdeveloped in comparison to other areas that look more muscular for the guys & more curvacious for the gals.
5. 3D facial hair for the guys that matches the hairstyles & texture & design type.
6.More selections of lip/mouth types, or a seperation between the top/bottom lip thickness slider.
7. Give current hairstyles the ability to be reversed from left/right.
And, here's a list of other things I would like to see improved or tweaked, not because they are bugged or broken, but because they just don't look or work quite right:
1. Hands & feet need to be redesigned to be more realistic. The hands look like flippers, & the feet look like lumps of clay. There is no indication of toes or arches in the feet, & no indication of the last three fingers in the hands. Plus the hands seem to be too large in relation to the rest of the body regardless of body height, weight, etc.
2. Color shading on the face needs to match the color shading on the rest of the head for all species. Currently with Zabrak & Twi'lek you see a whitish area on the face that does not match the rest of the head which is more visible with the darker skin tones. It almost appears as if a aquare template was held up to the chars face & then they were sprinkled with powdered sugar.
3. The calves on all male chars are way too big in comparison with their upper legs. All males look like they are in congestive heart failure & need to be put on water pills to reduce the swelling.
4. The mouth & lip area on some species needs to be fixed so the white line in gone between the upper & lower lips. This looks especially unattractive when dark lip colors are used.
5. Make bellybuttons more noticeable than the small shadow effect that they currently are.
6. The butt area needs more cleavage so that when wearing items such as the fleshwrap it doesn'tresemble a diaper more than a thong.
7. The shading inside the inner thighs needs to match the rest of the legs instead of the dark triangular effect it currently displays. This makes dancers in hotpants or fleshwraps look like they need to go to the ID salon for a bikini wax.
That's all that I can think of at the moment besides the other issues we've been discussing lately about the UIetc.
RaidenIV
Sun Sep 19, 2004 2:35 pm
#11
Maybe I didn't make it clear enough. What I meant is taht the sliders would be there so the client could monitor the changes, not make the changes himself. I thought about that idea as well and we would just become terminals.
Syzygy-Gorath
Sun Sep 19, 2004 3:41 pm
#12
Even with just the ability to monitor there were serious problems. Too lazy to dig up the thread, but I think it was called "Let's Talk About: The ID UI" or something like that.
RaidenIV wrote:
Maybe I didn't make it clear enough. What I meant is taht the sliders would be there so the client could monitor the changes, not make the changes himself. I thought about that idea as well and we would just become terminals.
Mawie
Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:06 pm
#13
i want 4 ids2 pleez me in evry way. i want u 2 do wut i want wen i want it. be on 24 hrs to migrate me so i can ware my hott comp armor n pwn u l8r!!! ids r a bunch of fIJcktards neweyz 4 us leet doods.
w00t.
THAT (above)is one thing I would like to see GONE from the profession. 
Hopefully you allknew off the bat that that was satirical.
Actually, I would like to see (I knowsome of you aregonna scream) craftables for IDs to make- wigs, lipstick, eyeshadow. Along with 3D facial hair for the men (and heck, the ladies, too), tattoos and scars for all species, new hairstyles, and brighter colors for human and zabrakian skin.
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