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Thread: SWG Japan -- just one question
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YamadaMan
Fri Sep 10, 2004 1:33 am
#1
didn't find the right boards for this
but anyone (well someone who might be aware of it yet) can tell me if Japan's gonna get a localised version of SWG ? if the game will be in japanese allowing japanese characters and stuff or will it remain in english.
cause I'm considering joining japan/asia servers but I have the regular english game (as anyone else)
but anyone (well someone who might be aware of it yet) can tell me if Japan's gonna get a localised version of SWG ? if the game will be in japanese allowing japanese characters and stuff or will it remain in english.
cause I'm considering joining japan/asia servers but I have the regular english game (as anyone else)
Thornstar
Fri Sep 10, 2004 5:25 am
#3
Id love to join a Japanese server with all their characters and everything. Ive started to learn Japanese and I think it would be a great learning experience to just jump onto a Japanese server and pick up parts of the written language by playing there.
Ka-oan
Fri Sep 10, 2004 5:42 am
#4
It's a little complicated to just "pick up" the written language. Kana isn't too complicated (Hiragana, Katakana, and Romaji), but when you have some 30,000 Kanji characters, both with an On and Kun reading (some with multiples of each).. you'll find yourself hunting down a dictionary and Kanji reference books more often than you'd ever care to. Than again, I've never seen a MMORPG in Japanese, so I'm not sure how they would impliment Kanji. *shrug* Would be cool though.
Ford86
Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:32 am
#5
Arcane571 wrote:
Fully Localized Star Wars Galaxies Headed for Japan
hmm cant quite understand that atm...to early but that means there going to be on there own servers? all we need is people going from north american and euro servers to those. end up being 1000 houses and 200 people on some servers
ZakkAckerton
Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:50 am
#6
Anyone else find it interesting that it is with EA, not with Sony? Is it a sign of displeasure???
YamadaMan
Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:40 am
#7
Ka-oan wrote:
It's a little complicated to just "pick up" the written language. Kana isn't too complicated (Hiragana, Katakana, and Romaji), but when you have some 30,000 Kanji characters, both with an On and Kun reading (some with multiples of each).. you'll find yourself hunting down a dictionary and Kanji reference books more often than you'd ever care to. Than again, I've never seen a MMORPG in Japanese, so I'm not sure how they would impliment Kanji. *shrug* Would be cool though.
well there are officially, 2000 kanjis, at least the most common ones, you can start to read things after you know about 500/600 kanjis wich is quite good already for a non japanese. Roma ji are the characters we're using right now, and katakana/hiragana take like a few days to learn.
and well "fully localised uh ?" u think there's a chance we could get the japanese characters set to download someday ? don't want to buy another box :'(
Mkappus
Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:43 am
#8
I think it is awesome news. Means they have additional incentive to keep developing and improving on the product.
Ka-oan
Fri Sep 10, 2004 11:15 am
#9
YamadaMan wrote:
Ka-oan wrote:
It's a little complicated to just "pick up" the written language. Kana isn't too complicated (Hiragana, Katakana, and Romaji), but when you have some 30,000 Kanji characters, both with an On and Kun reading (some with multiples of each).. you'll find yourself hunting down a dictionary and Kanji reference books more often than you'd ever care to. Than again, I've never seen a MMORPG in Japanese, so I'm not sure how they would impliment Kanji. *shrug* Would be cool though.
well there are officially, 2000 kanjis, at least the most common ones, you can start to read things after you know about 500/600 kanjis wich is quite good already for a non japanese. Roma ji are the characters we're using right now, and katakana/hiragana take like a few days to learn.
and well "fully localised uh ?" u think there's a chance we could get the japanese characters set to download someday ? don't want to buy another box :'(
I was told 3,000 commonly used Kanji with a whopping 30,000-ish total (many of which commonly find themselves being used in print publications for older readers and proper nouns) when I studied the language. *shrug*
I was directly responding to Thornstar's post where he stated, "Ive started to learn Japanese and I think it would be a great learning experience to just jump onto a Japanese server and pick up parts of the written language by playing there.". Which I am not arguing, I still have 100s of magazines and newspapers which I purchased when I started out to practice reading. Couldn't read anything BUT katakana/hiragana, but it was fun to hunt down the Kanji and attempt to figure it all out. I was just trying to brace him for the shock, because it's not that easy to just "pick up" reading 500/600 Kanji when you have to know both and/or multiple On and Kun readings and how to deturmine which to use... when you're just starting to learn the language. And attempting to play a game where you have to deal with a level of complexity such as the Japanese written language could be quite daunting to someone who doesn't have a firm grasp of the concepts to start out with.
When they launched the european servers, they dropped updates to the language support on our clients. I would assume they'd to the same for Japan. Shouldn't need to get a new box. Microsoft Windows offers the ability to add multiple display languages/fonts and keyboard inputs as well.
yorukaze
Fri Sep 10, 2004 11:36 am
#10
YamadaMan wrote:
Ka-oan wrote:
It's a little complicated to just "pick up" the written language. Kana isn't too complicated (Hiragana, Katakana, and Romaji), but when you have some 30,000 Kanji characters, both with an On and Kun reading (some with multiples of each).. you'll find yourself hunting down a dictionary and Kanji reference books more often than you'd ever care to. Than again, I've never seen a MMORPG in Japanese, so I'm not sure how they would impliment Kanji. *shrug* Would be cool though.
well there are officially, 2000 kanjis, at least the most common ones, you can start to read things after you know about 500/600 kanjis wich is quite good already for a non japanese. Roma ji are the characters we're using right now, and katakana/hiragana take like a few days to learn.
and well "fully localised uh ?" u think there's a chance we could get the japanese characters set to download someday ? don't want to buy another box :'(
2000 kanji? No, sir, there are way more than that. I know more than that!
RT60
Fri Sep 10, 2004 11:52 am
#11
yorukaze wrote:
YamadaMan wrote:
Ka-oan wrote:
It's a little complicated to just "pick up" the written language. Kana isn't too complicated (Hiragana, Katakana, and Romaji), but when you have some 30,000 Kanji characters, both with an On and Kun reading (some with multiples of each).. you'll find yourself hunting down a dictionary and Kanji reference books more often than you'd ever care to. Than again, I've never seen a MMORPG in Japanese, so I'm not sure how they would impliment Kanji. *shrug* Would be cool though.
well there are officially, 2000 kanjis, at least the most common ones, you can start to read things after you know about 500/600 kanjis wich is quite good already for a non japanese. Roma ji are the characters we're using right now, and katakana/hiragana take like a few days to learn.
and well "fully localised uh ?" u think there's a chance we could get the japanese characters set to download someday ? don't want to buy another box :'(
2000 kanji? No, sir, there are way more than that. I know more than that!
true, but you can get by with the standard 2000 for reading newspapers. the extra stuff, most japanesenatives can't even write themselves, except for the scholars and linguists.
I'm excited to hear that this game is being pushed into non-English language markets. I would join a Japanese server if I had the chance. My Japanese has gotten a little rusty. Nihongo ga chotto heta ni natte shimatta na.
also, I wonder if they are lookin for any translation help.....
would put my undergraduate degree to some use lol
YamadaMan
Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:46 am
#12
I like the things when people try to tell that they know the best.
well, I actually **lived** in japan, I speak japanese, my wife's japanese as well, and some of my business partners are japanese.
there ARE alot more kanjis than 2000 or so, but the most common ones are approx 2000 kanjis, those you learn at school for example, after that, you have technical and difficult kanjis, even japanese people mostly don't know. it's just the way it is.
CHINESE people use ALOT more kanjis than japanese, and those are not exactly the same ones as japanese ones, evolution was different, and keep in mind that chinese use ALL kanjis wich are unvariable characters/words, japanese had toi adapt kanjis not for their sense but for their pronounciation, cause japanese words vary. so you have mainly 1 or one group of kanjis for the meaning of the word, and hiraganas for the variable part. katakanas being used for foreign words and names mainly. and because of that difference, japanese language uses far less kanjis than chinese language.
we're not talking about how much kanjis there ARE, but about how much are commonly used, and this number is around 2000, or was it 3000, anyway...
well, I actually **lived** in japan, I speak japanese, my wife's japanese as well, and some of my business partners are japanese.
there ARE alot more kanjis than 2000 or so, but the most common ones are approx 2000 kanjis, those you learn at school for example, after that, you have technical and difficult kanjis, even japanese people mostly don't know. it's just the way it is.
CHINESE people use ALOT more kanjis than japanese, and those are not exactly the same ones as japanese ones, evolution was different, and keep in mind that chinese use ALL kanjis wich are unvariable characters/words, japanese had toi adapt kanjis not for their sense but for their pronounciation, cause japanese words vary. so you have mainly 1 or one group of kanjis for the meaning of the word, and hiraganas for the variable part. katakanas being used for foreign words and names mainly. and because of that difference, japanese language uses far less kanjis than chinese language.
we're not talking about how much kanjis there ARE, but about how much are commonly used, and this number is around 2000, or was it 3000, anyway...
Limbonik
Sun Sep 12, 2004 9:49 am
#13
Isn't there like 30 thousand kanji? (or am I thinking katakana or hiragana?)
Message Edited by Limbonik on 09-12-2004 09:50 AM
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