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Thread: Is there anyone that can solo a NS Elder?
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iva_bent
Mon Apr 04, 2005 1:55 pm
#1
I've seen some people that regularly loot and sell high end items from them. But there is never any mention of a partner.
They just not giving credit where credit is due?
Can any non-Jedi char Solo these?
What level Jedi would it take to stand a real chance?
vinterthoor
Mon Apr 04, 2005 2:14 pm
#2
Yeah, this question comes up quite a bit. Elders have too much ham for Jedi. 95% of them use a tank to take them on. Swordsmen and rifles with great weapons regularly hunt them.
To solo an Elder you'll want:
1. Either master rifles or swords for Energy or Blast damage respectively.
2. High resistance to or the ability to heal dizzy.
3. The ability to heal and more importantly stop bleeds. 2000 medic is the min. 4040 is recommended.
4. 80% or greater Comp
5. Full Buffs including mind, brandy and canape.
6. Powerups for your weapon to speed things up. Getting speed capped will greatly decrease the time it takes to take down an elder as well.
7. Between 10 and 30 min of free time.
Have fun.
To solo an Elder you'll want:
1. Either master rifles or swords for Energy or Blast damage respectively.
2. High resistance to or the ability to heal dizzy.
3. The ability to heal and more importantly stop bleeds. 2000 medic is the min. 4040 is recommended.
4. 80% or greater Comp
5. Full Buffs including mind, brandy and canape.
6. Powerups for your weapon to speed things up. Getting speed capped will greatly decrease the time it takes to take down an elder as well.
7. Between 10 and 30 min of free time.
Have fun.
iva_bent
Mon Apr 04, 2005 2:49 pm
#3
Exactly what I wanted to know; Thank you.
Next Q:
Any word on how CU will "likely" change this answer?
I just recently started a new char on Tempest, and I keep changing my mind about what I want to make him, based on conflicting CU reports.
But I know I need to act quickly.
And all I care about is to have the best PvM (player -vs- monster)combat-Solo char type I can have [post-CU].
-Thanks again.
Heciv
Mon Apr 04, 2005 3:35 pm
#4
Mbrawler, Mswords, pike 0040, fencer 0440, tk 0300, medic 2040 that and full buffs including mind and piles of spd pups if you aren't spd capped and a good powerhammer doesn't have to be uber just a good damage sliced basic one... will take a while if you aren't spd capped or have a so-so PH but it can be done will just take a little longer. You are looking for dps hence the spd pups. Medic 2xxx is manditory if you want to live as the bleeds can get very nasty and xx4x helps to be able to use mu40 stim Es that can heal you 2k dam a pop. Stay away from the stun baton wielding ones as you probably don't have a ADK'd PSG. good luck 
vinterthoor
Mon Apr 04, 2005 3:39 pm
#5
If the CU is what the devs have promised no single character...jedi or other should be able to solo an Elder or any high level mob for that matter. So you probably have about 6 weeks to finish your character before you'll never get another chance of Soloing an elder.
People have promised that they will evenutally figure it out. But without exceptional or dot weapons, weaker armor, 1 ham pool taking all the damage and tougher Mobs, its hard to see how this will be accomplished. I think your time will be best invested making good friends who you don't have a problem sharing loot with.
People have promised that they will evenutally figure it out. But without exceptional or dot weapons, weaker armor, 1 ham pool taking all the damage and tougher Mobs, its hard to see how this will be accomplished. I think your time will be best invested making good friends who you don't have a problem sharing loot with.
JeebusCrisp
Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:19 pm
#6
As for the soloing of Elders, I have:
MD/MHS (Speedcapped, meaning I have 95 2h speed)
I also rarely get mindbuffed to do so, I just use canape and brandy.
I DO run from Elders with stun batons.
MD/MHS (Speedcapped, meaning I have 95 2h speed)
I also rarely get mindbuffed to do so, I just use canape and brandy.
I DO run from Elders with stun batons.
themorph
Tue Apr 05, 2005 2:03 am
#7
I soloed a bunch of elders myself, including stun ones. I am speed capped swords/doc with just a 630ish PH and use a 80% kin, 36% stun, 85% base suit… soloing takes around 10min as you'll have to heal a lot, especially if those 1k bleeds stick, as well as curing dizzy is recommended.
I preferably hunt together with my speed capped rifle alt, which reduces the time to kill an elder to around 3-5min + usually not getting into serious danger, as my tank don't have to care about damage output and can concentrate on healing and intimidiating.
Anyways, also hunting with a larger group of 3-5 people is a lot of fun and we usually bring down an elder in around 1-3minutes, if you know how to milk an elder spawn you can get up to 20 out of one spawn and killing more in the same time gives you more loot which can be splitted within the group.
IMO a master combat template might not be able to solo a single elder after the CU, but a group of 2-3 with good equipment should. Players in an RPG are always considered to be exceptional persons and elders ain't too rare. There should be some content, like the DWB, Acklay, Corvette, Axkva Min Dungeon that shouldn't be able to solo due to the mass of mobs around there, but taking a single 'human' being shouldn't be too tough.
Ecnirp
Tue Apr 05, 2005 2:21 am
#8
Yeah as has been said if you have high Dizzy and can cure bleeds quickly - they are not that hard.
I'm
Master Rifles
Fencer 4-4-4-0
Pistoleer 0-0-3-0
Medic 2-4-4-0
Takes me about 5mins or so with a good T21 and spamming Mindshot3 + Intimidate. I wear 30% Stun, 90% Base Armour.
The bleeds are the worse, you need to start curing them as soon as they hit you and sometimes take 6-8 cures to get rid of one of there heavily stacked ones... which tick for over 2k sometimes.
There weapon also does make a difference, LVA's and 2-Handed Axe's seen to do the most damage in my experience and swords and poles the least... and well I must admit I have never taken one with a Stun Baton but have taken plenty of guardians with Stun Batons without much problem.
SMC Council Women are generally a little easier and also drop Premium Crystals and good Attachments\Modded Weapons - if you haven't solo'd an elder before I would try a Council Women first and see how you get on.
Some things I would advise to take with you
Ithorian Mist - for additional Dizzy Defence
Muon Gold - for when there bleeds have ticked and your hams are all ver depleted
Good Stim D's or E's
Havla - for quicker Heals
Oh and stay at least 30m away from your bike..... if you leave it out - or it won't last very long
DarkDemonKnight
Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:23 am
#9
I can solo them but i need comp armor(sliced), buffs,my tk skills with defence stack and also my all love able at-st that gives me moral support lol. By just standing there.Some of the loot is ok, some are junk and some ARE GREAT!!!
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ZinaTheMaker
Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:38 am
#10
With my template, I can easily solo elders, but I choose to drag along my rifleman/doc alt on my 2nd computer cause it goes a lot faster.
Ell'ey's Template:
Master Swords
Master Brawler
0/4/4/0 Fencer
0/0/4/0 Pikeman
2/0/0/4 Tka (Powerboost...mmm)
0/0/0/4 Melee speed from FS
0/1/0/0 Melee defense from FS
2/1/0/0 Medic (for /firstaid)
Equipment:
1050 powered up, ADK powerhammer
Shirt with 25/25 injury/wound (+850-900 b stim heals), also with +9 2h speed
60% stun ADK PSG (elders with batons hit for less than elders with wood sticks vs. anADK psg)
88-90% armor with 38-40% stun (boots, gloves, helmet, legs, chest all equipped with ADK's)
i dont choose to ADK the biceps or bracers, as they dont tend to take a ton of damage compared to the other pieces.
Food:
Exoprotien Wafers (dmg reduction at 5 fill)
Travel Biscuits (+ terrain nego)
Vegersparine (+ melee defense)
Pikita Pie (MMM
Ahrisa (+focus)
Canape (+focus/willpower)
Brandy (+mind/focus/willpower)
Spice:
Muon
Muon
I dont even need mind buffs, but inorder to be efficient as a twi'lek, i have to wait until i can triple stack brandy. Our minds are aweful, 500 max focus/willpower. With the encumberance, without 3 brandies, my willpower (regen) is poop.
SynJesus
Tue Apr 05, 2005 5:03 pm
#11
Master riflemen can solo them alone but it takes around 15 minutes.
Get a good T21, /cover and use a conceal shot macro.
Takes forever but works everytime without taking any damage.
Zariell
Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:36 am
#12
I would not attempt this with master rifle, the damage you take in melee is higher while wielding one.
That being said, elders are mostly a joke. The drop rate for crystals is pathetic compared to the drop rate for pearls. Krayts also do less damage for the most part, and you don't have to worry about healing a crazy bleed every 20 seconds.
That being said, elders are mostly a joke. The drop rate for crystals is pathetic compared to the drop rate for pearls. Krayts also do less damage for the most part, and you don't have to worry about healing a crazy bleed every 20 seconds.
Ecnirp
Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:47 am
#13
Zariell wrote:
I would not attempt this with master rifle, the damage you take in melee is higher while wielding one.
That being said, elders are mostly a joke. The drop rate for crystals is pathetic compared to the drop rate for pearls. Krayts also do less damage for the most part, and you don't have to worry about healing a crazy bleed every 20 seconds.
I can do it with ease with master Rifles... you just need to be a "stacker" rifleman
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