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Thread: Mabari armor belts

truewildman
Wed Aug 24, 2005 3:06 am
#79






Skwall wrote:






acmtalk wrote:





Baciacca wrote:


The Mabari Belt has not been reclassified. It has always been armor.

If you equipped the belt and then a piece of armor, and then un-equipped the piece of armor, you would have been told "You are still wearing armor", etc.

There was a bug which caused the armor check not to count belt, boots or gloves depending on the order in which they were equipped (or un-equipped). That bug was fixed in pub22, so now the belt always counts as armor, regardless what order you equip it in.



Mabari "Armor" Belts are now working as intended post publish 22.

Message Edited by Baciacca on 08-23-200509:46 AM






We all know this... people Are just pissed cuzz they cant exploit and Use AA's anymore..


silly jedi...







and all of this animosity could've been avoided if the highlighted part had been stated from the beginning. As it stands right now, all of us figured that Marbari belts had indeed been converted to clothing once the CU hit.


But whatever you just have to roll w/ the punches....








No, "all of us" did not. "Some of you" must have just failed to realize that hmm, this belt only takes "armor" attachments. It has always been considered "armor". I'm going to spend millions of credits on this "armor" piece because it's clothing in disguise.


Get a grip. If anyone was so dense as to spend millions upon millions of credits for a mabari belt to wear on thier jedi, who they know cannot wear armor, they took a known risk, and got their bluff called.


You have not one single solitary soul to blame but yourself. Like I said earlier, suck it up, accept the fact that you made a bad decision *knowing* SOE was fixing bugs, and move on.


And, yes, I also lost a very nice AA for my jedi in a belt. I knew I eventually would. It's really a no brainer. Get over it, jeez.





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Norewgian-Scout
Wed Aug 24, 2005 3:08 am
#80



truewildman wrote:


DarthNkari wrote:
this is so friggin retarded. how can they let a bug exist for over 2 years and not even acknowledge that its a bug, and then suddenly nerf the most uber items on the whole frikkin server??
its called a mabari "ARMORWEAVE belt"....not "ARMOR belt"
i cant believe they are gonna drop the ball on this one, and let it fade into oblivion as "working as intended". deffinately one of the worst nerf decisions of all time.



*YOU* dropped the ball on yourself, not SOE. Get over yourself.





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DarthNkari
Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:22 am
#81








Norewgian-Scout wrote:



qfe







oh please. let me guess, none of you have a mabari belt? is it jealous in here, or is it just you guys?


god forbid someone else posts on the public forums!! go back to your kreetle missions



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Anakroid
Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:33 am
#82

"the fact that it offers no protection is irrelevant"


I strongly disagree. Armor that offers no protection is, by definition, not armor at all.



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DarthNkari
Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:35 am
#83






Anakroid wrote:

"the fact that it offers no protection is irrelevant"


I strongly disagree. Armor that offers no protection is, by definition, not armor at all.






lol good point...it is very relevant when you are trying to label it as ARMOR



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ViddyWell
Wed Aug 24, 2005 5:42 am
#84






Baciacca wrote:


The Mabari Belt has not been reclassified. It has always been armor.

If you equipped the belt and then a piece of armor, and then un-equipped the piece of armor, you would have been told "You are still wearing armor", etc.

There was a bug which caused the armor check not to count belt, boots or gloves depending on the order in which they were equipped (or un-equipped). That bug was fixed in pub22, so now the belt always counts as armor, regardless what order you equip it in.



Mabari "Armor" Belts are now working as intended post publish 22.

Message Edited by Baciacca on 08-23-200509:46 AM





To Developers, not directed at Baciacca


The game is different from how it was "intended" to be at launch. Armor attachments and clothing attachmentsneed to be made into a generic "skill attachment" placable in anything with a socket. In the begining it was "intended" that EVERYONE could wear armor, well thats not how it works now, and you need to take the time and effort to make things right.


The CU introduced innate armor for Teras Kasi Artist yetmost if not all the Teras Kasi Artist Skill attachments I own are on Armor Attachments.


Question: Did the CU convertion magically convert these Teras Kasi Artist Armor Attachments seeing as how they can't posssibly exist??


Answer: NO.



Question: Did the CU remove grenade experimentation as a lootable skilltape?


Answer: NO, I have looted 2 since the CU went live.



This is unacceptable and you know it. This isn't a fix, you are just playing word games, proclaimingoh, oh, now it's "armor", it's publish 22 it'stoo late to be making a change like this. Your entire game is bugged, I can't tell what is working as "intended" and what isn't.Wedo not have ESP, we are not mind readers, andyet youhave the audacity to make the players shoulder the burden of YOUR MISTAKES. Way to make already frustrated players even more upset.


You know why you lose customers,it's because of garbage like this.







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acmtalk
Wed Aug 24, 2005 5:50 am
#85






DarthNkari wrote:








Norewgian-Scout wrote:



qfe







oh please. let me guess, none of you have a mabari belt? is it jealous in here, or is it just you guys?


god forbid someone else posts on the public forums!! go back to your kreetle missions





Nop, we all have it.. Or could have use it.. Since +25 AA's are much easy to buy/loot then CA's But we Knew , as you did, that this was Buged and Jedi SHould Not Use AA's... Now stop Crying...



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DarthNkari
Wed Aug 24, 2005 6:04 am
#86

you call it crying because you dont agree with me? im here on the boards posting my opinion about the game...and you are here complaining about me. you are the only one crying here, hate to break it to you =/



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WookieOgre
Wed Aug 24, 2005 6:10 am
#87






acmtalk wrote:





DarthNkari wrote:








Norewgian-Scout wrote:



qfe







oh please. let me guess, none of you have a mabari belt? is it jealous in here, or is it just you guys?


god forbid someone else posts on the public forums!! go back to your kreetle missions





Nop, we all have it.. Or could have use it.. Since +25 AA's are much easy to buy/loot then CA's But we Knew , as you did, that this was Buged and Jedi SHould Not Use AA's... Now stop Crying...






Sorry, please tell me how you came to this conclusion? I put this comment right up there with when people whine every other day in the BH forum that loot has been nerfed or when people say aa'kun missions were nerfed lol. You have no facts to back up that statement, loot is random.


As a pretty good loot hunter (since 90% of the time lately has been dedicated to PvE) I can assure you have the exact same % chance to loot a AA as a CA as well as the different mods. Over a month ago I looted 4 General Speed SEA's....guess what, 2 were CA's and the other were AA's. The CA's were +25, +19. The AA's were +20, +20. Tell me again how CA's are more rare? From my experience for every person asking for CA there is another asking for a AA so it's not even as you said much easier to buy.


I myself have come to grips with reality, devs will not change anything so I'm not even worrying about this anymore BUT I'm not going to let a comment like yours slide (specially since I'm a loot wh0re IG). Seems to me most people have no valid excuse to disallow the few Jedi that have the belts with mods from wearing them so instead you get flimsy excuses such as yours that is supposed to somehow convince everyone that using the Belt was somehow a balance issue (which is quite possibly the biggest joke I've ever heard). Go on believing AA's are less rare than CA's, it's a 50/50 chance from my experience in PvE and I've been playing since Day 2 of this game.
mauvros
Wed Aug 24, 2005 6:17 am
#88






acmtalk wrote:





DarthNkari wrote:








Norewgian-Scout wrote:



qfe







oh please. let me guess, none of you have a mabari belt? is it jealous in here, or is it just you guys?


god forbid someone else posts on the public forums!! go back to your kreetle missions





Nop, we all have it.. Or could have use it.. Since +25 AA's are much easy to buy/loot then CA's But we Knew , as you did, that this was Buged and Jedi SHould Not Use AA's... Now stop Crying...






At a certain point in a game when items are usable without any /bug report they become intended items.



This belt has been "Bugged" for a long long long time. With that people asumed it was as intended because SOE said nothing to counter it.



If SOE would have put a simple "The belt is not as intended and will be nerfed" people wouldnt have used it and invested 100's of millions of credits into it.



The problem is SOE makes decisions "Fixes" bugs without the consideration of the impact on the player base. This is bad business no matter how you slice it.


A simple "Break" option on the belt to remove those AA's so they can be sold would be a least something!!



So stop flaming people for using an item that has been working inthe game for a very long time.




Ikyo
Wed Aug 24, 2005 6:33 am
#89

RIght now debating this topic doesn't really matter. Until we can get a response from a dev regarding why certain items have been changed and others haven't, we are just inflating our post count. We need to also think ahead to the future and ask if there are any other changes coming to jedi clothing items such as Ubeese bandos, Ubeese shirts and PSG's.




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Eked
Wed Aug 24, 2005 7:21 am
#90

bush league, pure bush league, soe proves once again they no nothing about continuity.



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Eked
Wed Aug 24, 2005 7:24 am
#91






DarthNkari wrote:








Norewgian-Scout wrote:



qfe







oh please. let me guess, none of you have a mabari belt? is it jealous in here, or is it just you guys?


god forbid someone else posts on the public forums!! go back to your kreetle missions





isnt it obvious? those that could only dream of having one are now the same ones laughing... but hey what do I care I got mine for next to nothing and will make a fencer extremely happy (also has a +25 1hand speed in it). I will laugh all the way to the bank.



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