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Thread: Devs plz DWB need some love!
pussycat wrote:
/agree
While the DWB is not completely impossible, dealing with so many overpowered mobs really drains the fun out of it. It should be taken down a notch, perhaps just a tad harder than the Avatar.
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
TheSyKoS wrote:
You say you've done it....why get it nerfed? If you can do it, leave it as it is, but on the other thread your whining and moaning it is insanely hard to do, shut the h3ll up and leave it alone, if it gets any easier there will be nothing left to do.
Because it needs to be brought down a notch or two. Just because you have an easy time at it (and perhaps hope to eventually sell crafted items for millon$ of credits) doesn't mean everybody would have an easy time. The level can be brought down and it would still remain hard, and if you want it to become an even greater challenge, you can start trying it with smaller groups.
I'm sure if you're such an uber-elite powergamer you'll eventually be able to solo it.
ok, your posts obviously show that you are a moron... no one sells their stuff for million$ of credits!!! i guarente they never will, except for maybe those 1 or 2 jerks
Tsk, tsk, name calling already? You can't possibly know what other players are going to do with their crafted armor at some point in the future. To imply otherwise is simply disingenious.
ohh, and you know exactly what they are going to do? Lets take a poll of the eniter SWG community and see who would actually part with a peice of mando if they got it
You don't need a poll to figure it out. Most powergamers will camp anything they can if it gets them in-game money. It really hasn't change much since the holocron craze in that regard.
listen to yourself! if you make the DWB easier then people will be able to camp it!!! they cant atm, but if you want it weakened then they will be able to once again, and you will create what you intended to destroy!
I am not saying make it "easier", just bring it down a notch, it will be easier for people who want to craft something to do so themselves and then it will provide a level playing field.
umm.. so making it easier and bringing it down a notch are now different things?how do u expect to make it easier for crafting (which will then bring your prices up if you take the time to think) without making the place somewhere to camp for loot? THINK BEFORE YOU TYPE!
If you bring it down a notch, it can still be a pretty challenging undertaking, not an easier one, just a less challenging one. Now if you know anything about supply and demand, you'd see that making easier to craft (therefore increasing the supply) would decrease demand for it.
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
I am not saying make it "easier", just bring it down a notch, it will be easier for people who want to craft something to do so themselves and then it will provide a level playing field.
umm.. so making it easier and bringing it down a notch are now different things?
how do u expect to make it easier for crafting (which will then bring your prices up if you take the time to think) without making the place somewhere to camp for loot? THINK BEFORE YOU TYPE!
pussycat wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
give it time? seriously, how long do you think it will take for there to be enough mando to start flooding the market at insanely high prices... seriously give me your best estimate?
And if it dosnt mean the circumstances are going to be the same on every server, look waht I said "yes there always will be one person who is dying to go to the DWB... here is an easy solution, he can start a guild on his/hers server for a DWB team and advertise on the forums, or if things are really dim he can change servers, there are work arounds!"
and im sry, i assumed your board name was the same as yr in game, i was wrong in that regard only
Aha!!!
You have admitted that you were wrong about something... well at least that's making progress.
The DWB needs to be brought down a notch, or if you prefer to call it a nerfing, then fine, nerf the DWB. Yes people can be very interested in the DWB and yet find that capable players who have the skills and coordination to pull it off successfully may not even be interested.
Are you listening to me at all? Your arguement is that it is not doable for some people due to the lack of server population. Here is the solution: start a guild on his/hers server for a DWB team and advertise on the forums, or if things are really dim he can change servers.
No, you are not listening to me. I am not saying it's not doable for some people... I'm saying that putting together a team that can do it right won't be as easy in all servers, due to populations, time zones, etc. Now why would somebody have to start a guild simply for one dungeon of the game? I mean, it's pretty easy to try to put together a team with people from different guilds. And no, nobody should have to change a server simply because the devs miscalculated and a dungeon is unbalanced. It is well established (even admitted by those who aren't in favor of nerfing) that is is near impossible without Jedi.
of course its not easy to get a team together for the DWB... here on Chilly it is hard as hell too if you are not in a guild that will help you out. it will never be easy to do that due to time zones, lack of attention span, and lack of communication
and no, you dont have to make a guild just for the DWB, only if your group refuses to go, and you cannot find anyone else with your same interests. and no, that guild dosnt just have to do the DWB, it can do other things
AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD LISTEN TO WHAT YOU JUST SAID! "it's pretty easy to try to put together a team with people from different guilds" - i thought u just said it wasnt!
Oh, I'm sorry I thought you kept saying it was too easy in your server. Maybe I got you mixed up with someone else from Chilastra?
I misunderstood what you said about needing a guild that was devoted to DWB, I think it's generally easier to have a group with people from different guilds, the putting together a group is the easy part, but having a group that is intended for the DWB is the hard part.
can anyone make sense of what he is saying? "the putting together a group is the easy part, but having a group that is intended for the DWB is the hard part." right... so its easy to get a group together... but its not easy to put a group together that is going to the DWB... right. And that is just your fault if u prefer to get a cross-guild group, making it harder on everyone,instead of using what u have
and no, i never said it was too easy,I said it is incredibly challenging, but do-able!
I am not saying make it "easier", just bring it down a notch, it will be easier for people who want to craft something to do so themselves and then it will provide a level playing field.
Everything in red is a contradiction
How much is a notch?
For the yellow part to be viable the mobs would have to be all lvl 1
pussycat wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
TheSyKoS wrote:
You say you've done it....why get it nerfed? If you can do it, leave it as it is, but on the other thread your whining and moaning it is insanely hard to do, shut the h3ll up and leave it alone, if it gets any easier there will be nothing left to do.
Because it needs to be brought down a notch or two. Just because you have an easy time at it (and perhaps hope to eventually sell crafted items for millon$ of credits) doesn't mean everybody would have an easy time. The level can be brought down and it would still remain hard, and if you want it to become an even greater challenge, you can start trying it with smaller groups.
I'm sure if you're such an uber-elite powergamer you'll eventually be able to solo it.
ok, your posts obviously show that you are a moron... no one sells their stuff for million$ of credits!!! i guarente they never will, except for maybe those 1 or 2 jerks
Tsk, tsk, name calling already? You can't possibly know what other players are going to do with their crafted armor at some point in the future. To imply otherwise is simply disingenious.
ohh, and you know exactly what they are going to do? Lets take a poll of the eniter SWG community and see who would actually part with a peice of mando if they got it
You don't need a poll to figure it out. Most powergamers will camp anything they can if it gets them in-game money. It really hasn't change much since the holocron craze in that regard.
listen to yourself! if you make the DWB easier then people will be able to camp it!!! they cant atm, but if you want it weakened then they will be able to once again, and you will create what you intended to destroy!
I am not saying make it "easier", just bring it down a notch, it will be easier for people who want to craft something to do so themselves and then it will provide a level playing field.
umm.. so making it easier and bringing it down a notch are now different things?
how do u expect to make it easier for crafting (which will then bring your prices up if you take the time to think) without making the place somewhere to camp for loot? THINK BEFORE YOU TYPE!
If you bring it down a notch, it can still be a pretty challenging undertaking, not an easier one, just a less challenging one. Now if you know anything about supply and demand, you'd see that making easier to craft (therefore increasing the supply) would decrease demand for it.
ok, so lets make it easier! that way everyone can get their own set of mando and their own jetpack! do you seriously think everyone that is decent in this game should be able to have a mando suit and jetpack?
Leek_Stywalker wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
I am not saying make it "easier", just bring it down a notch, it will be easier for people who want to craft something to do so themselves and then it will provide a level playing field.
umm.. so making it easier and bringing it down a notch are now different things?how do u expect to make it easier for crafting (which will then bring your prices up if you take the time to think) without making the place somewhere to camp for loot? THINK BEFORE YOU TYPE!
I dont get Pussycats reply here. does it mean he/she wants to be able to solo it with a crafter? or get together a small group to craft his own gear? i presume the later.It seems to me that they ran some dwb runs with another group, but never got the oppertunity to get their own gear crafted and cannot form an effective enough group of their own, so are crying nerf/shrug
No, it means that I'm sure one of you uber-eleet powergamers would eventually get to the point of boasting they can solo it. I am not interested in crafting gear for myself, but I'm happy to help out others who do. This is not about being unable to create an effective group, I've been part of effective groups on several occasions.
pussycat wrote:
Leek_Stywalker wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
I am not saying make it "easier", just bring it down a notch, it will be easier for people who want to craft something to do so themselves and then it will provide a level playing field.
umm.. so making it easier and bringing it down a notch are now different things?
how do u expect to make it easier for crafting (which will then bring your prices up if you take the time to think) without making the place somewhere to camp for loot? THINK BEFORE YOU TYPE!
I dont get Pussycats reply here. does it mean he/she wants to be able to solo it with a crafter? or get together a small group to craft his own gear? i presume the later.
It seems to me that they ran some dwb runs with another group, but never got the oppertunity to get their own gear crafted and cannot form an effective enough group of their own, so are crying nerf
/shrug
No, it means that I'm sure one of you uber-eleet powergamers would eventually get to the point of boasting they can solo it. I am not interested in crafting gear for myself, but I'm happy to help out others who do. This is not about being unable to create an effective group, I've been part of effective groups on several occasions.
does anyone know when pussycat has made any sense in this post what so ever?
and for the love of god quit calling everyone who says you are an idio an uber-eleet pwergamer
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
give it time? seriously, how long do you think it will take for there to be enough mando to start flooding the market at insanely high prices... seriously give me your best estimate?
And if it dosnt mean the circumstances are going to be the same on every server, look waht I said "yes there always will be one person who is dying to go to the DWB... here is an easy solution, he can start a guild on his/hers server for a DWB team and advertise on the forums, or if things are really dim he can change servers, there are work arounds!"
and im sry, i assumed your board name was the same as yr in game, i was wrong in that regard only
Aha!!!
You have admitted that you were wrong about something... well at least that's making progress.
The DWB needs to be brought down a notch, or if you prefer to call it a nerfing, then fine, nerf the DWB. Yes people can be very interested in the DWB and yet find that capable players who have the skills and coordination to pull it off successfully may not even be interested.
Are you listening to me at all? Your arguement is that it is not doable for some people due to the lack of server population. Here is the solution: start a guild on his/hers server for a DWB team and advertise on the forums, or if things are really dim he can change servers.
No, you are not listening to me. I am not saying it's not doable for some people... I'm saying that putting together a team that can do it right won't be as easy in all servers, due to populations, time zones, etc. Now why would somebody have to start a guild simply for one dungeon of the game? I mean, it's pretty easy to try to put together a team with people from different guilds. And no, nobody should have to change a server simply because the devs miscalculated and a dungeon is unbalanced. It is well established (even admitted by those who aren't in favor of nerfing) that is is near impossible without Jedi.
of course its not easy to get a team together for the DWB... here on Chilly it is hard as hell too if you are not in a guild that will help you out. it will never be easy to do that due to time zones, lack of attention span, and lack of communicationand no, you dont have to make a guild just for the DWB, only if your group refuses to go, and you cannot find anyone else with your same interests. and no, that guild dosnt just have to do the DWB, it can do other things
AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD LISTEN TO WHAT YOU JUST SAID! "it's pretty easy to try to put together a team with people from different guilds" - i thought u just said it wasnt!
Oh, I'm sorry I thought you kept saying it was too easy in your server. Maybe I got you mixed up with someone else from Chilastra?
I misunderstood what you said about needing a guild that was devoted to DWB, I think it's generally easier to have a group with people from different guilds, the putting together a group is the easy part, but having a group that is intended for the DWB is the hard part.
can anyone make sense of what he is saying? "the putting together a group is the easy part, but having a group that is intended for the DWB is the hard part." right... so its easy to get a group together... but its not easy to put a group together that is going to the DWB... right. And that is just your fault if u prefer to get a cross-guild group, making it harder on everyone, instead of using what u have
and no, i never said it was too easy, I said it is incredibly challenging, but do-able!
OK, you want to get a group of good players for a specific purpose, then it's generally easier when it is made up of people from several guilds. That's oftentimes the easier part. You want to put together a team for the DWB, then that may not always be so easy. Seems easy to understand... but let me know if you want it explained again.