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Thread: Devs plz DWB need some love!
AyahtollahofRockNRolla wrote:If anything the DWB needs to be turned UP a notch, it was easy b4 CU its still easy after CU, only difference now is u actually have to rez the crafter a bunch, he cant just get his 90% comp on and roll on down. Pussycat u need to change servers or find a guild thats on the same time as you, no need to nerf it so u can run to mos nubsley and grab 7 nublets & go on down there. DWB is fun as is, still too easy as is, but its about the only thing in this game thats close to a challenge.
Ha ha, that's very funny. Yes, I do grab nublets right off of Mos Eisley and take them straight to the DWB.
It's not too easy as it is and even those who don't want it brought down a notch have said it's close to impossible without Jedi help.
pussycat wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
dude, just shut the hell up... you seriously have no idea what you are talking about.
first off, people who have completed the DWB have not ever sold their mando, EVER! Second, yes, people have sold jetpacks, because they are worried that they might explode. Never have the 'uber-elites' as you call them tried to corner the market and start selling jetpacks and mando! no one has ever done that, nor ever will...
second off, i find it ironic how you say you are sticking up for the little people, because when I first started with this game, u wanted to duel me so i did... then you gave me almost full mind wounds, DBed me, and blew up my swoop, leaving me for dead outside the squill cave...
third, the DWB is supposed to be hard! it wasnt meant for the casual group that has no idea what they are doing to just form up outside the bunker and run in, god forbid something in this game actually be hard
forth, if you really feel sorry for the people that cant get a DWB group started, why dont you go to their server with a toon and lead them down if u feel so bad
fifth, yes there always will be one person who is dying to go to the DWB... here is an easy solution, he can start a guild on his/hers server for a DWB team and advertise on the forums, or if things are really dim he can change servers, there are work arounds!
Once again, you resort to distorting the facts and making up stuff that is absolutely FALSE.
Yes, perhaps not too many people are selling Mando armor right now, but just give it time. So far, every type of high end armor has eventually become relatively easy to come by.
Secondly, I have never dueled you. You are obviously confusing me with someone else, I have never played in Chilastra and I very much doubt that you have played in my server.
Yes, the DWB is supposed to be hard and I still want it to be hard. I'm not saying otherwise, but still, it needs to be brought down a notch or two. You obviously only care about only your concerns and needs, and you'd rather corner off a little part of the game so that only you and your friends can play there.
Dude, so far on Chilly (one of the best DWB servers) there has been 2-3 peices made post CU, i think like 9 total... 9 in what, 6 months? give it time? are you kidding me? it would take another 2-4 years for there to be enough mando for it to be sold for millions
And yeah, i didnt start on Chilly, I used a free trial and dueled you, your name was pussycat, i remember it because u were a big arsehole
And finally, I have never even completed the DWB with my personal group, but i still know it is doable, just some parts require practice and good tactics... I have done it twice post CU, and think it is just fine.... extremely challenging, but doable, ohh and my group only consists of 3 Jedi, 1 rezzer, and 4 others whoever want to come from the guild
Yes, Chilestra may be one of the largest servers in the game, it doesn't mean the circumstances are going to be the same in all servers. And if you give it enough time, you can bet your bottom dollar anything that's tradeable is going to be sold in game, especially if it's hard to come by
And no, you have never dueled me because my board name is not the name of my toon. I'm pretty sure you and I have never dueled, in Chilestra or anywhere else. So stop making stuff up because it only makes it obvious you'll resort to lies just to try to discredit others.
I agree that the DWB is extremely challenging but doable, and yes, I think it should be brought down a notch.
give it time? seriously, how long do you think it will take for there to be enough mando to start flooding the market at insanely high prices... seriously give me your best estimate?
And if it dosnt mean the circumstances are going to be the same on every server, look waht I said "yes there always will be one person who is dying to go to the DWB... here is an easy solution, he can start a guild on his/hers server for a DWB team and advertise on the forums, or if things are really dim he can change servers, there are work arounds!"
and im sry, i assumed your board name was the same as yr in game, i was wrong in that regard only
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
TheSyKoS wrote:
You say you've done it....why get it nerfed? If you can do it, leave it as it is, but on the other thread your whining and moaning it is insanely hard to do, shut the h3ll up and leave it alone, if it gets any easier there will be nothing left to do.
Because it needs to be brought down a notch or two. Just because you have an easy time at it (and perhaps hope to eventually sell crafted items for millon$ of credits) doesn't mean everybody would have an easy time. The level can be brought down and it would still remain hard, and if you want it to become an even greater challenge, you can start trying it with smaller groups.
I'm sure if you're such an uber-elite powergamer you'll eventually be able to solo it.
ok, your posts obviously show that you are a moron... no one sells their stuff for million$ of credits!!! i guarente they never will, except for maybe those 1 or 2 jerks
Tsk, tsk, name calling already? You can't possibly know what other players are going to do with their crafted armor at some point in the future. To imply otherwise is simply disingenious.
pussycat wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
TheSyKoS wrote:
You say you've done it....why get it nerfed? If you can do it, leave it as it is, but on the other thread your whining and moaning it is insanely hard to do, shut the h3ll up and leave it alone, if it gets any easier there will be nothing left to do.
Because it needs to be brought down a notch or two. Just because you have an easy time at it (and perhaps hope to eventually sell crafted items for millon$ of credits) doesn't mean everybody would have an easy time. The level can be brought down and it would still remain hard, and if you want it to become an even greater challenge, you can start trying it with smaller groups.
I'm sure if you're such an uber-elite powergamer you'll eventually be able to solo it.
ok, your posts obviously show that you are a moron... no one sells their stuff for million$ of credits!!! i guarente they never will, except for maybe those 1 or 2 jerks
Tsk, tsk, name calling already? You can't possibly know what other players are going to do with their crafted armor at some point in the future. To imply otherwise is simply disingenious.
ohh, and you know exactly what they are going to do? Lets take a poll of the eniter SWG community and see who would actually part with a peice of mando if they got it
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
dude, just shut the hell up... you seriously have no idea what you are talking about.
first off, people who have completed the DWB have not ever sold their mando, EVER! Second, yes, people have sold jetpacks, because they are worried that they might explode. Never have the 'uber-elites' as you call them tried to corner the market and start selling jetpacks and mando! no one has ever done that, nor ever will...
second off, i find it ironic how you say you are sticking up for the little people, because when I first started with this game, u wanted to duel me so i did... then you gave me almost full mind wounds, DBed me, and blew up my swoop, leaving me for dead outside the squill cave...
third, the DWB is supposed to be hard! it wasnt meant for the casual group that has no idea what they are doing to just form up outside the bunker and run in, god forbid something in this game actually be hard
forth, if you really feel sorry for the people that cant get a DWB group started, why dont you go to their server with a toon and lead them down if u feel so bad
fifth, yes there always will be one person who is dying to go to the DWB... here is an easy solution, he can start a guild on his/hers server for a DWB team and advertise on the forums, or if things are really dim he can change servers, there are work arounds!
Once again, you resort to distorting the facts and making up stuff that is absolutely FALSE.
Yes, perhaps not too many people are selling Mando armor right now, but just give it time. So far, every type of high end armor has eventually become relatively easy to come by.
Secondly, I have never dueled you. You are obviously confusing me with someone else, I have never played in Chilastra and I very much doubt that you have played in my server.
Yes, the DWB is supposed to be hard and I still want it to be hard. I'm not saying otherwise, but still, it needs to be brought down a notch or two. You obviously only care about only your concerns and needs, and you'd rather corner off a little part of the game so that only you and your friends can play there.
Dude, so far on Chilly (one of the best DWB servers) there has been 2-3 peices made post CU, i think like 9 total... 9 in what, 6 months? give it time? are you kidding me? it would take another 2-4 years for there to be enough mando for it to be sold for millionsAnd yeah, i didnt start on Chilly, I used a free trial and dueled you, your name was pussycat, i remember it because u were a big arsehole
And finally, I have never even completed the DWB with my personal group, but i still know it is doable, just some parts require practice and good tactics... I have done it twice post CU, and think it is just fine.... extremely challenging, but doable, ohh and my group only consists of 3 Jedi, 1 rezzer, and 4 others whoever want to come from the guild
Yes, Chilestra may be one of the largest servers in the game, it doesn't mean the circumstances are going to be the same in all servers. And if you give it enough time, you can bet your bottom dollar anything that's tradeable is going to be sold in game, especially if it's hard to come by
And no, you have never dueled me because my board name is not the name of my toon. I'm pretty sure you and I have never dueled, in Chilestra or anywhere else. So stop making stuff up because it only makes it obvious you'll resort to lies just to try to discredit others.
I agree that the DWB is extremely challenging but doable, and yes, I think it should be brought down a notch.
give it time? seriously, how long do you think it will take for there to be enough mando to start flooding the market at insanely high prices... seriously give me your best estimate?
And if it dosnt mean the circumstances are going to be the same on every server, look waht I said "yes there always will be one person who is dying to go to the DWB... here is an easy solution, he can start a guild on his/hers server for a DWB team and advertise on the forums, or if things are really dim he can change servers, there are work arounds!"
and im sry, i assumed your board name was the same as yr in game, i was wrong in that regard only
Aha!!!
You have admitted that you were wrong about something... well at least that's making progress.
The DWB needs to be brought down a notch, or if you prefer to call it a nerfing, then fine, nerf the DWB. Yes people can be very interested in the DWB and yet find that capable players who have the skills and coordination to pull it off successfully may not even be interested.
pussycat wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
give it time? seriously, how long do you think it will take for there to be enough mando to start flooding the market at insanely high prices... seriously give me your best estimate?
And if it dosnt mean the circumstances are going to be the same on every server, look waht I said "yes there always will be one person who is dying to go to the DWB... here is an easy solution, he can start a guild on his/hers server for a DWB team and advertise on the forums, or if things are really dim he can change servers, there are work arounds!"
and im sry, i assumed your board name was the same as yr in game, i was wrong in that regard only
Aha!!!
You have admitted that you were wrong about something... well at least that's making progress.
The DWB needs to be brought down a notch, or if you prefer to call it a nerfing, then fine, nerf the DWB. Yes people can be very interested in the DWB and yet find that capable players who have the skills and coordination to pull it off successfully may not even be interested.
pussycat wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
TheSyKoS wrote:
You say you've done it....why get it nerfed? If you can do it, leave it as it is, but on the other thread your whining and moaning it is insanely hard to do, shut the h3ll up and leave it alone, if it gets any easier there will be nothing left to do.
Because it needs to be brought down a notch or two. Just because you have an easy time at it (and perhaps hope to eventually sell crafted items for millon$ of credits) doesn't mean everybody would have an easy time. The level can be brought down and it would still remain hard, and if you want it to become an even greater challenge, you can start trying it with smaller groups.
I'm sure if you're such an uber-elite powergamer you'll eventually be able to solo it.
ok, your posts obviously show that you are a moron... no one sells their stuff for million$ of credits!!! i guarente they never will, except for maybe those 1 or 2 jerks
Tsk, tsk, name calling already? You can't possibly know what other players are going to do with their crafted armor at some point in the future. To imply otherwise is simply disingenious.
ohh, and you know exactly what they are going to do? Lets take a poll of the eniter SWG community and see who would actually part with a peice of mando if they got it
You don't need a poll to figure it out. Most powergamers will camp anything they can if it gets them in-game money. It really hasn't change much since the holocron craze in that regard.
listen to yourself! if you make the DWB easier then people will be able to camp it!!! they cant atm, but if you want it weakened then they will be able to once again, and you will create what you intended to destroy!
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
give it time? seriously, how long do you think it will take for there to be enough mando to start flooding the market at insanely high prices... seriously give me your best estimate?
And if it dosnt mean the circumstances are going to be the same on every server, look waht I said "yes there always will be one person who is dying to go to the DWB... here is an easy solution, he can start a guild on his/hers server for a DWB team and advertise on the forums, or if things are really dim he can change servers, there are work arounds!"
and im sry, i assumed your board name was the same as yr in game, i was wrong in that regard only
Aha!!!
You have admitted that you were wrong about something... well at least that's making progress.
The DWB needs to be brought down a notch, or if you prefer to call it a nerfing, then fine, nerf the DWB. Yes people can be very interested in the DWB and yet find that capable players who have the skills and coordination to pull it off successfully may not even be interested.
Are you listening to me at all? Your arguement is that it is not doable for some people due to the lack of server population. Here is the solution: start a guild on his/hers server for a DWB team and advertise on the forums, or if things are really dim he can change servers.
No, you are not listening to me. I am not saying it's not doable for some people... I'm saying that putting together a team that can do it right won't be as easy in all servers, due to populations, time zones, etc. Now why would somebody have to start a guild simply for one dungeon of the game? I mean, it's pretty easy to try to put together a team with people from different guilds. And no, nobody should have to change a server simply because the devs miscalculated and a dungeon is unbalanced. It is well established (even admitted by those who aren't in favor of nerfing) that is is near impossible without Jedi.
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
TheSyKoS wrote:
You say you've done it....why get it nerfed? If you can do it, leave it as it is, but on the other thread your whining and moaning it is insanely hard to do, shut the h3ll up and leave it alone, if it gets any easier there will be nothing left to do.
Because it needs to be brought down a notch or two. Just because you have an easy time at it (and perhaps hope to eventually sell crafted items for millon$ of credits) doesn't mean everybody would have an easy time. The level can be brought down and it would still remain hard, and if you want it to become an even greater challenge, you can start trying it with smaller groups.
I'm sure if you're such an uber-elite powergamer you'll eventually be able to solo it.
ok, your posts obviously show that you are a moron... no one sells their stuff for million$ of credits!!! i guarente they never will, except for maybe those 1 or 2 jerks
Tsk, tsk, name calling already? You can't possibly know what other players are going to do with their crafted armor at some point in the future. To imply otherwise is simply disingenious.
ohh, and you know exactly what they are going to do? Lets take a poll of the eniter SWG community and see who would actually part with a peice of mando if they got it
You don't need a poll to figure it out. Most powergamers will camp anything they can if it gets them in-game money. It really hasn't change much since the holocron craze in that regard.
listen to yourself! if you make the DWB easier then people will be able to camp it!!! they cant atm, but if you want it weakened then they will be able to once again, and you will create what you intended to destroy!
I am not saying make it "easier", just bring it down a notch, it will be easier for people who want to craft something to do so themselves and then it will provide a level playing field.
pussycat wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
give it time? seriously, how long do you think it will take for there to be enough mando to start flooding the market at insanely high prices... seriously give me your best estimate?
And if it dosnt mean the circumstances are going to be the same on every server, look waht I said "yes there always will be one person who is dying to go to the DWB... here is an easy solution, he can start a guild on his/hers server for a DWB team and advertise on the forums, or if things are really dim he can change servers, there are work arounds!"
and im sry, i assumed your board name was the same as yr in game, i was wrong in that regard only
Aha!!!
You have admitted that you were wrong about something... well at least that's making progress.
The DWB needs to be brought down a notch, or if you prefer to call it a nerfing, then fine, nerf the DWB. Yes people can be very interested in the DWB and yet find that capable players who have the skills and coordination to pull it off successfully may not even be interested.
Are you listening to me at all? Your arguement is that it is not doable for some people due to the lack of server population. Here is the solution: start a guild on his/hers server for a DWB team and advertise on the forums, or if things are really dim he can change servers.
No, you are not listening to me. I am not saying it's not doable for some people... I'm saying that putting together a team that can do it right won't be as easy in all servers, due to populations, time zones, etc. Now why would somebody have to start a guild simply for one dungeon of the game? I mean, it's pretty easy to try to put together a team with people from different guilds. And no, nobody should have to change a server simply because the devs miscalculated and a dungeon is unbalanced. It is well established (even admitted by those who aren't in favor of nerfing) that is is near impossible without Jedi.
of course its not easy to get a team together for the DWB... here on Chilly it is hard as hell too if you are not in a guild that will help you out. it will never be easy to do that due to time zones, lack of attention span, and lack of communication
and no, you dont have to make a guild just for the DWB, only if your group refuses to go, and you cannot find anyone else with your same interests. and no, that guild dosnt just have to do the DWB, it can do other things
AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD LISTEN TO WHAT YOU JUST SAID! "it's pretty easy to try to put together a team with people from different guilds" - i thought u just said it wasnt!
pussycat wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
TheSyKoS wrote:
You say you've done it....why get it nerfed? If you can do it, leave it as it is, but on the other thread your whining and moaning it is insanely hard to do, shut the h3ll up and leave it alone, if it gets any easier there will be nothing left to do.
Because it needs to be brought down a notch or two. Just because you have an easy time at it (and perhaps hope to eventually sell crafted items for millon$ of credits) doesn't mean everybody would have an easy time. The level can be brought down and it would still remain hard, and if you want it to become an even greater challenge, you can start trying it with smaller groups.
I'm sure if you're such an uber-elite powergamer you'll eventually be able to solo it.
ok, your posts obviously show that you are a moron... no one sells their stuff for million$ of credits!!! i guarente they never will, except for maybe those 1 or 2 jerks
Tsk, tsk, name calling already? You can't possibly know what other players are going to do with their crafted armor at some point in the future. To imply otherwise is simply disingenious.
ohh, and you know exactly what they are going to do? Lets take a poll of the eniter SWG community and see who would actually part with a peice of mando if they got it
You don't need a poll to figure it out. Most powergamers will camp anything they can if it gets them in-game money. It really hasn't change much since the holocron craze in that regard.
listen to yourself! if you make the DWB easier then people will be able to camp it!!! they cant atm, but if you want it weakened then they will be able to once again, and you will create what you intended to destroy!
I am not saying make it "easier", just bring it down a notch, it will be easier for people who want to craft something to do so themselves and then it will provide a level playing field.
You obviously dont know what ur saying
pussycat wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
TheSyKoS wrote:
You say you've done it....why get it nerfed? If you can do it, leave it as it is, but on the other thread your whining and moaning it is insanely hard to do, shut the h3ll up and leave it alone, if it gets any easier there will be nothing left to do.
Because it needs to be brought down a notch or two. Just because you have an easy time at it (and perhaps hope to eventually sell crafted items for millon$ of credits) doesn't mean everybody would have an easy time. The level can be brought down and it would still remain hard, and if you want it to become an even greater challenge, you can start trying it with smaller groups.
I'm sure if you're such an uber-elite powergamer you'll eventually be able to solo it.
ok, your posts obviously show that you are a moron... no one sells their stuff for million$ of credits!!! i guarente they never will, except for maybe those 1 or 2 jerks
Tsk, tsk, name calling already? You can't possibly know what other players are going to do with their crafted armor at some point in the future. To imply otherwise is simply disingenious.
ohh, and you know exactly what they are going to do? Lets take a poll of the eniter SWG community and see who would actually part with a peice of mando if they got it
You don't need a poll to figure it out. Most powergamers will camp anything they can if it gets them in-game money. It really hasn't change much since the holocron craze in that regard.
listen to yourself! if you make the DWB easier then people will be able to camp it!!! they cant atm, but if you want it weakened then they will be able to once again, and you will create what you intended to destroy!
I am not saying make it "easier", just bring it down a notch, it will be easier for people who want to craft something to do so themselves and then it will provide a level playing field.
umm.. so making it easier and bringing it down a notch are now different things?
how do u expect to make it easier for crafting (which will then bring your prices up if you take the time to think) without making the place somewhere to camp for loot? THINK BEFORE YOU TYPE!
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
pussycat wrote:
Dackrendarck wrote:
give it time? seriously, how long do you think it will take for there to be enough mando to start flooding the market at insanely high prices... seriously give me your best estimate?
And if it dosnt mean the circumstances are going to be the same on every server, look waht I said "yes there always will be one person who is dying to go to the DWB... here is an easy solution, he can start a guild on his/hers server for a DWB team and advertise on the forums, or if things are really dim he can change servers, there are work arounds!"
and im sry, i assumed your board name was the same as yr in game, i was wrong in that regard only
Aha!!!
You have admitted that you were wrong about something... well at least that's making progress.
The DWB needs to be brought down a notch, or if you prefer to call it a nerfing, then fine, nerf the DWB. Yes people can be very interested in the DWB and yet find that capable players who have the skills and coordination to pull it off successfully may not even be interested.
Are you listening to me at all? Your arguement is that it is not doable for some people due to the lack of server population. Here is the solution: start a guild on his/hers server for a DWB team and advertise on the forums, or if things are really dim he can change servers.
No, you are not listening to me. I am not saying it's not doable for some people... I'm saying that putting together a team that can do it right won't be as easy in all servers, due to populations, time zones, etc. Now why would somebody have to start a guild simply for one dungeon of the game? I mean, it's pretty easy to try to put together a team with people from different guilds. And no, nobody should have to change a server simply because the devs miscalculated and a dungeon is unbalanced. It is well established (even admitted by those who aren't in favor of nerfing) that is is near impossible without Jedi.
of course its not easy to get a team together for the DWB... here on Chilly it is hard as hell too if you are not in a guild that will help you out. it will never be easy to do that due to time zones, lack of attention span, and lack of communicationand no, you dont have to make a guild just for the DWB, only if your group refuses to go, and you cannot find anyone else with your same interests. and no, that guild dosnt just have to do the DWB, it can do other things
AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD LISTEN TO WHAT YOU JUST SAID! "it's pretty easy to try to put together a team with people from different guilds" - i thought u just said it wasnt!
Oh, I'm sorry I thought you kept saying it was too easy in your server. Maybe I got you mixed up with someone else from Chilastra?
I misunderstood what you said about needing a guild that was devoted to DWB, I think it's generally easier to have a group with people from different guilds, the putting together a group is the easy part, but having a group that is intended for the DWB is the hard part.