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Thread: Tuesday Tips – Sept 14th: Weapon Decay

EledrenRontas
Tue Sep 14, 2004 6:54 pm
#79

Any update on the combat balance is always welcome thunderheart, even if its small tidbits such as you've just posted.

I love the idea that the combat balance might be set up as a beta.

Might I suggest that a galaxy clone might be appropriate for this kind of test?

Creating a sandbox with vanilla characters obviously won't provide the necessary results for high end pvp in a timescale that the community will find reasonable. Tests such as those on C-Ahazi/TC-Bria, with or without blue frogs will provide a good comparisson to the current state of pvp currently being demonstrated in the free-for-all on those servers.

Additionally -> BigSteve, afaik the increased degradation of weapon condition was related to using them with powerups, not with weapons. Slices were meant to make the weapon harder to fix.

Message Edited by EledrenRontas on 09-14-2004 06:57 PM



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Thunderheart
Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:02 pm
#80






EledrenRontas wrote:
Any update on the combat balance is always welcome thunderheart, even if its small tidbits such as you've just posted.



Thanks. Im doing my best to get it all to you as quick as I can.








BigSteve03 wrote:



Can you confirm whether or not its always been this way, or if this is a recent stealth nerf, TH?


I've been talking around, and most people (including myself) have had no problem repairing sliced weapons till recently (since patch 9).


If this is a recent stealth nerf, why was it never reported in a publish note, and why was the change made at all? It seems to just hurt players more, without adding any real benifit to the game (weaponsmiths make more than enough money as it is, so that couldn't be the reason for doing this to players).


Also, does this same rule apply to armor?





It has always been this way. I went to GM because he coded it.


As far as armor goes, I dont know. Any time I post anything like this, it usually takes hours of research to make sure it is correct. I talk to the devs, to the correspondents and try to test it first if I can. Armor is for another day...




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Thunderheart
Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:06 pm
#81






EledrenRontas wrote:

Might I suggest that a galaxy clone might be appropriate for this kind of test?



Yes and no. We're actually working to bring all copies of items, armor, buffs, etc. into one single database so the sandbox has a full range. Though if I had to pick and stress one thing about this whole process, it is forget everything you know about combat. "What was" is going away... Any effort to compare the existing system to the new system is like trying to catch a fart in a snowstorm.


My biggest challenge is trying to explain the differences in the system to the tens of thousands of people who post and lurk on the forums. I will be relying on the correspondents and community leaders to help with this a great deal. This truly needs to be a community effort.








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Rueger_Karde
Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:10 pm
#82

This has been one of the most informative Tuesday Tips in a while



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WookieBounty
Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:10 pm
#83






Thunderheart wrote:





EledrenRontas wrote:

Might I suggest that a galaxy clone might be appropriate for this kind of test?



Yes and no. We're actually working to bring all copies of items, armor, buffs, etc. into one single database so the sandbox has a full range. Though if I had to pick and stress one thing about this whole process, it is forget everything you know about combat. "What was" is going away... Any effort to compare the existing system to the new system is like trying to catch a fart in a snowstorm.


My biggest challenge is trying to explain the differences in the system to the tens of thousands of people who post and lurk on the forums. I will be relying on the correspondents and community leaders to help with this a great deal. This truly needs to be a community effort.











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KaptainKrude
Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:11 pm
#84

I think you meant "fart in a windstorm"...




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KaptainKrude
Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:14 pm
#85






KaptainKrude wrote:

I think you meant "fart in a windstorm"...






Of course there could be some strange interaction between snow and fart gas that I'm not aware of... some sort of melting action or something...




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KaptainKrude
Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:15 pm
#86






KaptainKrude wrote:





KaptainKrude wrote:

I think you meant "fart in a windstorm"...






Of course there could be some strange interaction between snow and fart gas that I'm not aware of... some sort of melting action or something...





Perhaps another community test of this is in order... set up a "snowbox" server and we'll try it out




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nolan007
Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:16 pm
#87






Thunderheart wrote:





nolan007 wrote:



Thunderheart:


Will the community have a say in the Combat Revamp? Or, it's a take it or leave it type of deal?





Great question Nolan


The community will be involved. Right now were planning on setting up a "beta boards", working on hardware configurations to get more people involved in the sandbox and run it like a beta. All of that stuff is in the progress of being worked out which is driving the delay in communication because it will change how things happen.


I'm being patient and thoughtful with what is said because I know how much it means.










Thank you for your reply Thunderheart!





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( Maybe one day these ideas will be considered or implemented. Bump it, please? )

Thunderheart
Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:18 pm
#88






KaptainKrude wrote:

I think you meant "fart in a windstorm"...


Im originally from Buffalo - - we say snowstorm




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HurriwanShinobi
Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:19 pm
#89






HurriwanShinobi wrote:

any idea how weapon decay is worked out?


some weapons eg. looted LVAs seem to decay much faster than regular player crafted weapons.




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Thunderheart
Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:22 pm
#90






HurriwanShinobi wrote:





HurriwanShinobi wrote:

any idea how weapon decay is worked out?


some weapons eg. looted LVAs seem to decay much faster than regular player crafted weapons.




Dear Thunderheat?






Again, Im NOT guessing =P


Though Id say its very hard to tell. It isnt something that is tracked and depends VERY much on user behavior. For instance, someone who is a mad-clicker and relies wholly on specials will wear out their weapon faster than someone that plays with an economy of strategy, well placed shots and skillful specials...







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SmegamanX
Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:27 pm
#91

later



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