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Thread: Friday Feature September 3rd Part 1 : Secrets of the Force
Dubolom
Sat Sep 04, 2004 8:08 am
#66
What really bugs me is, WHY do I have to be a Master Medic to unlock Persuasion branch in FS Senses? Persuasion has absolutely nothing to do with medicine and I do not want to grind Master Medic just to later drop it and use my scout xp to fill persuasion line!? I thouht this new system was supposed to get rid of grinding professiosn? On similar note, why in the world does "Survival" branch in reflexes only accepts weapon/combat xp and not scout xp when it is directly rellated to scouting!???
R0Man
Sat Sep 04, 2004 9:47 am
#67
Finaly we have fraud about Quest Based way to Force .....NEW sustem its just piti try stopgrow jedi population, inside you find more long grind with "hand brakes SOE patented" as 3 week delay..
LexMythero
Sat Sep 04, 2004 11:38 am
#68
hey dude, listen I'm new to this but so I don't know how to post, but the village is pissing me off so bad that I had to come report this somewhere, so if you could post this or something that would be cool.
"I agree with this poster, I thought this would be a fun casual time to play star wars and seeing how cool it would be to advance to jedi, now I find out that the ratio is 30 to 1!!! this isridiculous! I mean come on, this will take forever and this will be for those who play non-stop, jeez don't you people realize that we have lives besides this game. All we want is to become jedi by a reasonable means, I know that you want to put a cap on the juedi limits, but find some other way, grinding our asses off for xp just to get hardlt any is the most inconsiderate stupid thing I have ever seen. I really like this game but sometimes the gameplay is ultimately ruined by many of the decisions are made, I am thankful that I was able to get into the village fairly quick but now its like I have liost interest becuase I know HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE! I feel bad for the people that haven't gotten into the vilaage they do not know what awaits them. Personally I think you devs should find someway to change this. Any thing would makeit more fun by not so much grinding alomost meaningless xp, the phases are dumb too becuase people that do get to advance have to wait a few weeks, How stupid is that! so you basically screw those who play alot and those who don't it is unbelievable that you could do this when this game is suppose to be fun. I hope you can find someway to make this better in the near future." thank you.
Thorjack_Day
Sat Sep 04, 2004 5:35 pm
#69
I cannot believe it was done like this. Talk about the final straw. The villiage is a confused nightmare, and add that with the confused misinformed holocredit, I just cant believe it. For anyone who still as of yet has not started this or converted their holocredit, I highly recommend reading every spoiler and post you can twice. The story arc of the village and the way the NPC's display the options is designed in my opinion to lead you to make mistakes. This is a real time online game with no 'save'. Mistakes are final.
Nearly everyone I talked to made mistakes, all the forum posts I read warned of mistakes, I waited and tried to not make any but alas to no avail. I recieved 5 full trees of holo credit, wasn't sure at the time if I would get 2 or 6 it was so vague in the previous FF's. I worked out how to train a branch from Peamos and then have Noland train the 4 boxes of the branch, so no mistake there. After unlocking and training the 5th branch, I no longer had the option from Peamos to unlock anymore branches. I then proceded to convert my regular exps to force exps and filled the first box of my 6th branch. Upon returning to Noland now it all changed...he says I'm ready to learn the skill, I have the skill points, and I have the force exps required, but he wont train me. Boggled, I then ask some more people and read a few more posts and realize I must do the quest now to unlock the branch to allow training. Not to bad I think initially. So now to the captain for the quest.
To my horror, he is only giving out the quest for ranged accuracy now, phase one. The branchI left for last was melee accuracy, phase 3. So now I cant proceed for 6 WEEKS!!!??? AndI could have avoided this by reading spoiler sites and poststo know to save the ranged accuracy for last, since hologrinders can use thier credit to unlock any branch regardless of phase!!!! The lack of information from the Dev's on this was purposeful, in an attempt to keep it mysterious? How smart do I have to be to play and enjoy a game? How many posts and forums do I have to read? Why must I be forced to cheat and read spoilers rather than be presented with a convient, unconvoluted interface which reveals nothing and leads to mistakes?
More than a year at this now, nearly 30 professions, countless quests, endless exploration,complete emersion into the fabric of this game, and yet I find that still I am unworthy. Is this how you wanted me to feel?Stupid, left outand worthless? I dont think I like it at all.
sometime last summer...
/tell friend01 dude! swg comes out next month, can you imagine how cool it will be to play a jedi in an online game? i mean think of the possibilities...
whatever,
Thorjack Day
Master Crimson Cat Killer
KwiGonGinn
Sat Sep 04, 2004 9:45 pm
#70
229,500,000 xp to go till Initiate, then more grinding /yay!
TH, I must say the dev team has outdone themselves, from the hologrind to this, known as the 'old man grind'. Quest based system was a load of BS, I'm happy we got suckered in again! 
Its cool though, you have JtL to redeem yourselves, just hope it does...thats my only **edit** that you wasted my time and every other gamers time by promising us quest based FS system to jedi, but hey, doing 10 circles around a block then having to convert all that normal XP to FS xp, hell that can be fun right? lol.
This game is going down hill big time, enough with the jedi already, two publishes that were a waste of time!
Flame on! I used to be a sheep, believing in the devs, but now I must say, that pub 10 and the village, just opened my eyes to how much **edit** we take, they **edit**ed this game beyond belief, lets see if you can mend the gaping wounds oyu have caused, or we will get a /sabrethrow bleed and die off, or I might /forcerun3 away, wait that got nerfed...whatevs!
DeamosInfinity
Sun Sep 05, 2004 2:08 pm
#71
DeamosInfinity wrote:
Thunderheart : Some clarification if you could please.
When you do the quest you unlock a branch that is true, however the player cannot chose which branches to go for unless they read an out of game spoiler site. So I must ask you to consider letting people chose their own branches, rather than forcing some on them for taking quests from certain NPC's
Also, will Jedi Initiates, Padawans and above be allowed to surrender a branch of FS skills in order to get another once they are initiated or higher? Or are we stuck with what you chose for us?
Bump, Still need to get a Non Cut and Paste reply from CSR on this. I've gotten my third cut and paste reply now, getting pretty annoyed about it in fact considering how simple a question it is.
Can we or can we not subsitute One (or more) Force Sensitive Branches once we hit Initiate or higher? I'm not talking about avoiding the 24 skillpoint requirement, I'm talking about Filling an extra with exp and then loosing one you had already.
Answer please, And do consider letting people make their own choices on the matter. Requireing an out of game spoiler site to plan your path due to your predetermined quest rewards is piss poor Quest design.
Themonarch
Sun Sep 05, 2004 8:58 pm
#72
What you mean driving in circles isn't content??? Grinding XP to convert to force powers isn't different from grinding professions?
This is an absolute joke. Where are the quests? Were is the feeling that we are on the path to becoming a jedi? I have played this game from day one. Why isn't all the xp i gathered from the beginning taken into account, just as all the professions people have grinded were taken into consideration.
Yet another poor update stacked upon poor updates.
This is an absolute joke. Where are the quests? Were is the feeling that we are on the path to becoming a jedi? I have played this game from day one. Why isn't all the xp i gathered from the beginning taken into account, just as all the professions people have grinded were taken into consideration.
Yet another poor update stacked upon poor updates.
manocheese
Mon Sep 06, 2004 5:12 am
#74
It's been said a hundred times before, what about all the people who don't want to be FS? All we have left are the other professions, theme parks POI's and what not! It's just not good enough, it's not like you have anything planned for non-fs players, except JTL.... and my foot hurts. Fix it!!!!!
Manocheese does 20844 Force Sarcasm damage on The'forum!
Tricerix
Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:34 pm
#75
I may be a spoiler here, but you can get the force sensitivity to enhance your normal template for only a few skillpoints, you don't have to carry a sabre, or surrender all of your non-fsc abilities. I am told by just surrendering 4 skill points one can cap on rifle or melee speed. If you don't do this as a bh, you are seriously taking a huge disadvantage. Take your shoes off and lay down a while
Tobit0
Wed Sep 08, 2004 4:35 am
#76
This is where you are all wrong, the village is in the southwest, I am standing here, typing and it's in the southwest, granted, I am standing on my head, but that's irrelevant.......
bajsmaster
Fri Sep 10, 2004 2:33 am
#77
hi can any 1 just tell me witch badges that i must take to get glowing ive got the three jedi badges (ben kenobis old home,lars home stead and exar kun tempel)+ 3 normal badges. Shall i just take some diffrent badges and hope thy are right? tell me plz!
Whatajoke
Fri Sep 10, 2004 4:27 pm
#78
Good point made in another post about, those who play alot get screwed, and those who don't get screwed. I would like to see the ratio drop and the quests doable whenever. Remember, Jedi will have another character slot. Not everyone will be a jedi all the time, if that's the worry. Many just want FS. Fs is a nice end game type reward, similar to realm abilities in DAOC, tho not as good. I been waiting for somthing like this since the game came out. But the rewards are not worth the efforts. I've read how screwed up the jedi profession is. Will it be fixed by the time I reach it? Hell if I know. Could be worse. We can't test drive a jedi so how do we even know it's even worth the huge effort?
I have canceled both my accounts, due to the new and improved grind system they put in place among many other things. I feel lied to and strung along for my money. Same way with combat revamp. JTL won't save this game. I know I and many others aren't in any hurry to buy it.
Also. It would be real nice to hear from someone at soe address the concerns of players about this new publish. Look around, the people who are unhappy with the publish far out weigh those who are. Those that are happy with it, are just happy it's done and out of the way, so they think.
I have canceled both my accounts, due to the new and improved grind system they put in place among many other things. I feel lied to and strung along for my money. Same way with combat revamp. JTL won't save this game. I know I and many others aren't in any hurry to buy it.
Also. It would be real nice to hear from someone at soe address the concerns of players about this new publish. Look around, the people who are unhappy with the publish far out weigh those who are. Those that are happy with it, are just happy it's done and out of the way, so they think.