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Thread: Innocent SWG Players do this as instructed by a CSR
dreamerxay
Thu Aug 19, 2004 8:23 pm
#40
hmmm i got a small amount(2000) like 4 nights ago from someone i didn't know, nor did i know what it was for. it was bank tipped, should i report it or not? becuase they mentioned don't accept large transactions. i hardly think 2k is large. any opinions would be welcome.... =) thanks
DylanFowles
Thu Aug 19, 2004 8:37 pm
#41
Lol, I think the Devs have artificial intelligence.
but they won't use the same techniques to make a more immersive SWG artificial intelligence based upon a players experiences.
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tuls
Thu Aug 19, 2004 11:18 pm
#42
I believe range is like 500K / day on same person.
I didnt hear any banned players so far, if limit was too low, think about AFK entertainers 
Jona-set
Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:00 am
#44
You know All this fear of being banned can easily be cured by an annoucement from the devs on what to do if you get caught up in this dupe credit thing. But as usaul there is just silence, I've played alot of games online and read alot of forums for those games and never had i seen such sorry excuse for any kind of PR as is with SWG i'm sorry but there PR flat out is the worst i have ever witnessed. EVER!
CreatureHypnotizer
Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:24 am
#45
Jabourn wrote:
CreatureHypnotizer wrote:
LOL, im betting younthat SOE-collector is a scam.
The poster could have made a char named that and gotten all the creds.
A form of SWG bankrobbery.
Abe
Uggg! Finally!... I'm reading along, wondering when someone is going to say the obvious here. Thank you Abe.
Yeah seriously.....im not suggesting that our poster is a scammer, but how can people trust this post. Wouldnt SOE have made this statement themselves, if they had made a char.
Abe
CreatureHypnotizer
Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:33 am
#46
I just went on chat and its their banner. So this is indeed a tru thing...Odd....
ImperialCommando1138
Fri Aug 20, 2004 5:38 am
#47
The problem is the login console states something like : "You should REFUSE to accept /tips from someone you don't know....". OK, devs, please tell me how I refuse a tip, huh?
I've already taken my name off the "Search" lists (I'm overt 100% of the time) due to the Jedi scourge, which had the impact of also removing me from being found by anyone wanting to buy anything from me. I have a house out in the middle of the Tattooine wilderness where few people can find it. I rarely even go into the cities anymore except to heal any combat damage and fatigue (finding an entertainer is very difficult these days), and now I can't even run the risk of passing by a seemingly innocent player anywhere!
Guess I'll just run NPC Imp Faction missions out in the middle of nowhere for a while and not talk with anyone ever again. Nice game we have here lately.
<Character name witheld to prevent long-distance grief tipping> Master Architect/Tarquinas
Xtopherxaos
Fri Aug 20, 2004 6:27 am
#48
ImperialCommando1138 wrote:
The problem is the login console states something like : "You should REFUSE to accept /tips from someone you don't know....". OK, devs, please tell me how I refuse a tip, huh?
Master Architect/Tarquinas
You asked my question before I could! How can they justify banning someone for accepting a /tip when there is no (apparent) way to refuse? This occured to me a few weeks back when my dancer was beingplagued by a guy. He was bank tipping me like 25 or so credits at a time and asking for lap dances. His behevior was in character and the player was not trying to actually harass me,he was justrp'ing a jerk. I wanted to refuse histipsIC,but didn't know how....So, I gave him a lap dance....girl's gotta eat!
Jenya_Malik
Fri Aug 20, 2004 7:18 am
#49
Vrond wrote:
Not all of this is done for stoargae I put items on my vendor with instructions on how to place special orders as the name of the item and price it like that. I took them all off and I am not takeing special orders now.
TashunkaSapa wrote:
Mup- wrote:
had a few friends who are very well known smiths who got banned due to someone buying there storage vendors out.
While I object to the way they ban innocent recipients of funds, I have to say in this case it serves them right. Some people abuse vendors - they are meant for sales, not for storage! If you list something for 999999999 credits on a vendor you are making an offer to sell it (whether you like it or not) and because only a duper would have that kind of money, you are consciously choosing to sell it to any duper who accepts the offer of sale. Such people are giving the Devs very good justification for a ban, if you ask me.
SOE is making a big mistake banning every innocent who receives duped funds. In the real world, one must meet two criteria to be prosecuted for a crime: Culpability and Intent. One must knowingly and willingly engage in an activiy that they know to be a crime. The innocent people who are banned here do not meet these criteria - they have no way of knowing these funds are duped, and the act of making a sale or receiving a tip is not, in and of itself, any sort of offense.
If SOE is going to come down hard, they have a responsibility to eliminate these dupers and their duped funds before they reach innocent unknowing customers.
Another way to do it would be to make somthing cheap, or offer 1 unit of meat for 1 cred, then add description of how to order and ask for ppl not to purchase that item.
ToppDog
Fri Aug 20, 2004 11:31 am
#50
TashunkaSapa wrote:
Mup- wrote:
had a few friends who are very well known smiths who got banned due to someone buying there storage vendors out.
While I object to the way they ban innocent recipients of funds, I have to say in this case it serves them right. Some people abuse vendors - they are meant for sales, not for storage! If you list something for 999999999 credits on a vendor you are making an offer to sell it (whether you like it or not) and because only a duper would have that kind of money, you are consciously choosing to sell it to any duper who accepts the offer of sale. Such people are giving the Devs very good justification for a ban, if you ask me.
SOE is making a big mistake banning every innocent who receives duped funds. In the real world, one must meet two criteria to be prosecuted for a crime: Culpability and Intent. One must knowingly and willingly engage in an activiy that they know to be a crime. The innocent people who are banned here do not meet these criteria - they have no way of knowing these funds are duped, and the act of making a sale or receiving a tip is not, in and of itself, any sort of offense.
If SOE is going to come down hard, they have a responsibility to eliminate these dupers and their duped funds before they reach innocent unknowing customers.
I'm sorry, but this is the same kind ofnarrow-minded thinking that in being displayed by SOE right now. There are many other reasons besides storage that vendors place items for sale at 99999999 credits. A lot of times it's a way to post a message for shoppers to read & get information that has no other way to be presented to them. Sometimes vendors will place custom madeorders for specific players this way also, so they won't get scooped up by a random shopper, etc.
PermaSt0ne
Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:37 pm
#51
now now that sentance looks like it's implying that the devs actually learn
DylanFowles wrote:
Lol, I think the Devs have artificial intelligence.
but they won't use the same techniques to make a more immersive SWG artificial intelligence based upon a players experiences.
