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Thread: PvP guide 1.0.1 *Final revised version*

Faragos
Fri Jun 11, 2004 1:51 pm
#40





caddlite wrote:


This is all BS advice. The only important information for PVP you need to know:


Be either Master Doc/Rifle or Master Doc/CM.


When you get into the big battles, everything you posted goes out the door if you can't cure your own poison.







Jerk! You need to **edit** because she obviously put like 5 hours into this thing, and besides, if you have poison, and followed her advise and got really good buffs, it wouldnt much matter cuz you have 3000 HAM and its taken 100/5 seconds, so it would be gone before 2000 HAM anyway which is more than enough to fry an imp @$$ so, like I said **edit**!




Faragos-Tinn, Master Marksman
Faragos
Fri Jun 11, 2004 2:05 pm
#41



HEHE, Im better Now, it is Just Stupid People make me soo MAD! sry about that, HEHE














^^^^^^I Like the Lines LOL ^^^^^^





Faragos-Tinn, Master Marksman
--foggy--
Sat Jun 12, 2004 11:03 pm
#42

Nice guide.



-foggy- and Krazy Boris.
Hater of Jedi.
Zebide
Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:08 am
#43

LMAO that is funny you stole this from www.swgcenter.com if you did write it thats even funnier! There disclaimer says all articles written for them are meant to be exclusive to there website!!! LOL



Fighting for the empire 24/7

Katchiko
Wed Jun 16, 2004 10:51 am
#44






MotoMaster wrote:

Hey Katchico - Great post thank you.


Since you put so much time and effort into the PVP aspect of the game I pose to you a few questions that in your spare time I would really appreciate some help with.


My background - I've been enjoying SWG since the first week of November, and have been primarly a crafter before being sucked into the wraith of the little blue box. 15 professions later I thought I'd try a new aspect of the game and become more involved with PVP.


I am quite familiar with def stacking, "uber" templates. food/spice, macros, etc, but in battle I am quite novice at this point.


I have chosen not to have a def stacked template which I realize is probably not the best idea, but I enjoy having Master Doc along with Master TK - until I'm flat on my arse calling my opponent weak for not fighting me face to face - then being told not to whinethatit's all part of the game hehehe


(1) My biggest problem is with the KD/D that everyone seems to use. My first question is will Thakitillo add 95% (my crate is actually 98%) of your current def vs KD (which at TK is a lowly +20 x 1.95 = 39 Def vs KD), or does it actually add +95 to your base (giving a TKM +115) If so, is +115 enough? (FYI i just bought the Thak and havn't had a chance to test it out yet)KD/D imho is the absolute worst part of PVP (however I guess it does demand a toon concentrate all there sp's on PVP). Is there any other ways to combat KD? I've tried a macro that implores /stand; cure state dizzy, but never seems to react fast enough. I've been in quite a few PVP battles as of late, and usually am on my back in the first 5 seconds and really never recover from there, while I see most others in tourny's and such never fall down the entire battle.


(2): CoB - When using CoB you are unable to use any of your special attacks. I see many melee users implore the CoB quite often, but without specials is it wise to use when it's 1 v 1, and if not, when do you find it useful? Why do so many people use it when it takes away from your offense?


(3): Have you done any research on the Dead Eye Prototype. At master Doc I just made a crate of 25 (2 uses each) that are approximately +54% for 14.3 minutes. Just wondering if you'd had a chance to practice using the Dead Eye and have found it to be useful.


All in all my preparation is pretty sound. Sweet stun armor, a great VK, the best food and spice, macros to instantly cure all dot's and the common states, as well as instant macro's for armor and switchin panes on the fly. My practice methods involve constantly running around the galaxy declared and scrappin every chance I get (I quite enjoy this "rush" over any other part of the game).


Anyways, I'll quit my useless ramble now (at work and quite bored for the time being) - if you have ancomments for the above ?'s I'd really appreciate your time,


Thanx,







(1) : thak will give you the amount it says on the food to your raw stat .. example you have 35 def Vs Kd with thak ( 95) you would have a total def Vs Kd 130 .. i myself have atm a thak with 107 Def Vs KD but lets face it defense stacking is verry importand if you dont defence stack your in a verry big disadvantage ..


*i like to point out that most people use a combination of a dizzy attack and a posture change attack like lunge , or sweep .. first dizzying you and thenforcing you to alter your position thereby making you do the backflop on the ground the only person who can truely use a Kd attack with effect is a Tka using KD2 ( it has a dizzy chanse )


(2) : your wrong there , CoB doesnt prevent you from doing specials , berserk prevents you from doing specials CoB DOESN'T , CoB raises your defences and your defence chanses . it doesnt interfere at all with your offence .. im afraid you got that wrong .. but CoBonly worksfor part of it for TKM so don't bother .. CoB was designed to work on special defences like counterattack , block , dodge .. als TKM you dont have those so all that Cob does is raise your melee and ranged defences a verry slight bit ( between 5-10 ) its only usefull as swordsman or als pikeman or as fencer, unfortneatly TKM got a bad deal on that ..(


(3) : the dead eye prototype raises your acuracy .. atleast thats what it said when they patched it to work properly . lol before it made you mis more lol .. talk about a mistake . but now its rumord to work .. i havent ever tried it out .;seeign as i have yet to encounter sommone i couldnt hit after aplying stun ( lowers defences ) blind (yet again lowers defences ) intimidate ( lowers defences and the opontend dmg ) after those i hit 9 out of 10 attacks even against godly defence stackers



feel free to ask anythign else if you might need more info





~ Katchiko Lay ~
~ Master Swordsman/Master Teras kasi ~
~ There are 2 kinds of MoBs ingame the ones I have soloed and the ones i am going to solo ~
Katchiko
Wed Jun 16, 2004 10:54 am
#45






Zebide wrote:

LMAO that is funny you stole this from www.swgcenter.com if you did write it thats even funnier! There disclaimer says all articles written for them are meant to be exclusive to there website!!! LOL







ACTUALY i did write it myself !! and thx for telling me ill go chek this out i have only given permission to 1 site to post this that beeing www.allhakazam.com


so before you start acusing me of coping stuff do a little research and chek the dates of the posts .. you might as wel look in the forums for my draft version i posted .. i dont take kindly to people acusing me to steal stuf from site's ..




~ Katchiko Lay ~
~ Master Swordsman/Master Teras kasi ~
~ There are 2 kinds of MoBs ingame the ones I have soloed and the ones i am going to solo ~
Katchiko
Wed Jun 16, 2004 11:02 am
#46






Zebide wrote:

LMAO that is funny you stole this from www.swgcenter.com if you did write it thats even funnier! There disclaimer says all articles written for them are meant to be exclusive to there website!!! LOL







actualy i just looked it up on the site you mentioned .. em did you miss the line that said author : Katchiko and just so you know .. that was the draft version of the PvP guide if you compare it to my final version you'll see that my version posted here is more detailed and has extra info .. the one you read there was copied from my Beta version i posted a month before i posted this version so i coudl adjust the final version with more info requested by readers .. tsk tsk .. but i will contackt the site and send em my words file so they can update there version .. no use in having a beta version published on the net when they can have my full and finished version



Tip : next tip before you acuse sommone of copiecating try and get your info straight so you acuse the right person .. they copied from me not the other way around ..




~ Katchiko Lay ~
~ Master Swordsman/Master Teras kasi ~
~ There are 2 kinds of MoBs ingame the ones I have soloed and the ones i am going to solo ~
Dniper
Wed Jun 16, 2004 9:22 pm
#47


Thanks Katchiko, this is a great guide for new PvPers, and even some vets may learn something.



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Schrödinger's cat is DEAD.
Nine-Dragons
Wed Jun 16, 2004 11:33 pm
#48

Very nice guide.



Torp
MBH
noreenf
Fri Jun 18, 2004 10:33 pm
#49

Great guide.

Is there a list of "unofficial" rules to PvP? What I'm looking for is a collection of stuff thats considered lame or controversial like poo chucking.

TY



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DarkHybrid108
Sat Jun 19, 2004 11:46 am
#50

cheer cheer



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Never shall the blood of the innocent be shed yet the blood of the wicked shall flow free and the three shall spread their blackened wings and be the thundering hammer of god!
JWlaxplyr7
Sat Jun 19, 2004 12:41 pm
#51

Katchiko
Sun Jun 20, 2004 6:59 pm
#52






DarkHybrid108 wrote:
cheer cheer





*cough* you do realise that thats scum whish you are sworn to kill the ''empire'' like you said .. provide you this guide im a general in the emperial army .. you rebels can't ever win . Even with me trying to educate you rebs to pose more of a thread still its as easy as taking out trash .. *sigh* but then again what do you expect of a faction that has a sissy jedi wanebee and a tomboy princess as the main banner .. ( sad , truely sad ..



~ Katchiko Lay ~
~ Master Swordsman/Master Teras kasi ~
~ There are 2 kinds of MoBs ingame the ones I have soloed and the ones i am going to solo ~
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