Game Guides Archive
Thread: Aurilian Plant Care
Laeren
Mon Oct 18, 2004 6:21 pm
#483
Here's the plant I'm looking after for a friend:
Size: Large
Growth: Very Slow
Condition: Severely Wilted
Settings:
Water: Below Normal(second tier)
Nutrients: Above Normal (second tier)
Every time I change the settings (higher OR lower)it flips out of "very slow" and goes to "wilting". If I leave it alone for a few hours, the water and nutrients drop one level to (first tier) and it starts wilting again.
I have a macro that sits there and talks to it, and that appears to help.
I can't get it to grow any faster than Very Slow.
I'm using some OQ 900+ stuff on it, but I dunno about the rest of the stats or if they have an effect. I'm stepping it up a notch and using some uber stuff on it soon....
MalLorin
Tue Oct 19, 2004 5:21 am
#484
Angof, I had the same thought, so this morning just before server reset I changed my water settings to start the process of messing around with the settings. After server reset I signed back on to check on it. Growth had changed from very slow to wilting, as I sort of expected. But health had changed from perfect to full of life...just under an hour and a half had passed, with the server resetting during that time.
Now I'm wondering about the health bar theory. Maybe there is no bar at all, but a timer. Maybe you have to have the plant at a positive growth rate for a certain amount of time, with no interruptions of no growth/negative growth, in order for it to move to the next health level. Timer length could be based on growth rate, i.e. the higher the growth rate, the shorter the timer. The timer could also be longer at the perfect health stage (where the next step up would be either growth size change or fruit production).
This could explain why my plant has remained at small size, perfect health for over 4 weeks. I'm trying to remember how often I checked on it to find that resources had depleted and growth rate had dropped to no growth. It's happened at least twice...maybe as much as four times. Perhaps each time that happened the timer reset.
I have to believe this because if there is a health bar that slowly fills up at a rate corresponding to growth rate, then I have had over 4 weeks to fill that bar, and I can't believe that the bar would deplete in an hour and a half (minus server reboot time) at wilting.
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
[Edited to clarify one point.]
Now I'm wondering about the health bar theory. Maybe there is no bar at all, but a timer. Maybe you have to have the plant at a positive growth rate for a certain amount of time, with no interruptions of no growth/negative growth, in order for it to move to the next health level. Timer length could be based on growth rate, i.e. the higher the growth rate, the shorter the timer. The timer could also be longer at the perfect health stage (where the next step up would be either growth size change or fruit production).
This could explain why my plant has remained at small size, perfect health for over 4 weeks. I'm trying to remember how often I checked on it to find that resources had depleted and growth rate had dropped to no growth. It's happened at least twice...maybe as much as four times. Perhaps each time that happened the timer reset.
I have to believe this because if there is a health bar that slowly fills up at a rate corresponding to growth rate, then I have had over 4 weeks to fill that bar, and I can't believe that the bar would deplete in an hour and a half (minus server reboot time) at wilting.
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
[Edited to clarify one point.]
Message Edited by MalLorin on 10-19-2004 05:24 AM
Angof
Tue Oct 19, 2004 6:41 am
#485
Hmm i suppose the question is how long will the plant stay at Full of life before going down to the next level? I noticed the same too though, that my plant dropped IMMEDIATELY to full of life so i assume that at perfect health it did not do any "growing" at all, which would disprove the bar theory at least at the evolution stage.
This does of course beg the question what do you do to evolve your plant. I think the most my plant was at perfect health with out interruption was about 2 weeks? but maybe you actually need to leave it without INTERRUPTION i.e. no feeding or watering AT ALL. So find its upper growth limit and then totally dont feed or water it at all and see what happens.
I may give it a go and see.
Message Edited by Angof on 10-19-2004 02:44 PM
Joaann
Tue Oct 19, 2004 6:44 am
#486
a little question guys,
i picked 1 fruit now
it's +1K HAM 0 minutes 0 sec
filling 10
so what does this fruit do exactly ?
aachil
Tue Oct 19, 2004 2:54 pm
#488
The plant uses resources as much as twice a day if it is under constant supervision. However if it is not loaded to the server (i.e. you don't drop in on it often) then it will only update ocasionaly - if so then it will not be growing very often either.
MalLorin wrote:
This (timer theory) could explain why my plant has remained at small size, perfect health for over 4 weeks. I'm trying to remember how often I checked on it to find that resources had depleted and growth rate had dropped to no growth. It's happened at least twice...maybe as much as four times.
It does not grow if you are not there - weird but that is good for casual players. Plants in public high trafic areas grow quickly because they update often, plants in private rarely visited places don't. I've started to keep my plant in a cantina and it is using a lot of stuff and changes health quickly.
Angof
Tue Oct 19, 2004 6:13 pm
#489
aachil wrote:
I've started to keep my plant in a cantina and it is using a lot of stuff and changes health quickly.
Brilliant let us know how it goes.
MrRandomDude
Wed Oct 20, 2004 1:58 am
#490
My plant is large and has been for weeks now, I got it on day two of village, kept it at slow growth rate through first two cycles (about 6 daysper cycle)but have been at "very slow" on stage 3. Stage 3 is taking forever. Conclusion Very Slow means not dying, but not growing. As for the people who are saying if the plant is in perfect condition or full of life for so many days that it will cycle, they are full of bantha poodoo. As long as the growth rate is very slow or higher the plant will slowly continue to progress from vibrant and colorful, to full of life to perfect condition. The condition merely indicateshow close your plant is to death, has nothing to do with it cycling. My plant has been perfect condition for over three weeks now at growth rate "very slow" and has neither changed nor gone below perfect condition. Therefore Im gonna use my settings to get my plant back to perfect condition while I try every other possible conditioning. I will switch it to one different possible setting after another, when it goes down in condition I will return it to the settings which make it grow very slowly again until it returns to perfect condition, then try another setting and repeat. If I reach slow or better Ill let it run its course.
Do NOT use other peoples settings, if they work for you, you are lucky, all plants are unique, we have been working four plants side by side and one is dead, one large/very slow, one medium normal growth and one is small and growing very slow. You will have to do your own research on this one. Every plant has individual requirements and trying to copy somebodies work wont get you anywhere. Someone elses settings working for you is merely coincidence. Just read the examine description of your plant if you dont believe me, its right there in black and white. A scientific method of test and change is far more efficient than randomly trying other peoples settings.
When your plant cycles, simply try different combinations of nutrient and water until you get very slow or better. Yes, this is a pain, but as long as you can maintain very slow your plant may not grow, but it wont die. Try different combinations, then bring it back to very slow level until its conditioning replenishes. Once your plant is in perfect condition you can try new combinations again until it drops a few levels, then once again return it to perfect condition and start from scratch as very slow seems to be one of the easiest combos to hit. Once you have found a combo which merits very slow during a growth stage, that combo of water/nutrients will work to bring it back to health for the duration of that cycle.
As for time it takes for the nutrient information to cycle forward, meaning how long does it take for your plant to reflect new growth information. Since no one has figured this out, Ill see what I can find out tomorrow. It will be a simple thing to wilt my plant for four hours, then change the settings back to what will make it very slow and time its progression.
Abilla
Wed Oct 20, 2004 6:36 am
#491
My large plant started wilting right off. I went extremely low on both stats and it went to Withering. I went Normal on water and Low on nutrients and it continued to wilt down to Good condition. I reversed the settings - no go. Finally, I took a stab at Wet A and Low Nutrient B. Success - very slow growth! I then moved to Wet B/Low B and it moved to Slow growth. Whew. We will see if I can turn it around!
Ciredor
Wed Oct 20, 2004 10:17 am
#492
MalLorin wrote:
Has anyone ever figured out whether resources are depleted faster at higher growth rates? I know we tossed around the idea that DR might have an effect on the resource depletion rate, but I don't think we had much evidence for that. I don't remember if we discussed growth rate/resource depletion rate. Actually it could be that at higher growth rates, the amount of resources that needs to be depleted could be reduced, i.e.:
These numbers could be higher, say 4x, for the phase change from small to medium, medium to large, large to fruit production. I wish now that I had been counting resource additions all along...
The only depletion I notice now with my large, perfect condition, slow growth plant is that, consistantly, it goes through 2 dose of nutrients/water before each fruit it drops. I am using resources with numbers in the 900s including DR.
Good luck to everyone.
Bluechiss
Wed Oct 20, 2004 3:28 pm
#493
MalLorin wrote:
Actually it could be that at higher growth rates, the amount of resources that needs to be depleted could be reduced, i.e.:
Very slow growth: 10 resource additions must be depleted in order for plant to move up in health
Slow growth: 9 resource additions
Below normal growth: 8 resource additions
etc.
These numbers could be higher, say 4x, for the phase change from small to medium, medium to large, large to fruit production. I wish now that I had been counting resource additions all along...
Thats a really good theory. I never really timed my plant, but it has been perfect/slow medium plant for a week or so i think.
I was gonna type more and add some stuff, but i dont feel so well.
Very nice post,
Minas
BovineX
Wed Oct 20, 2004 8:34 pm
#494
my plant had been slow and very slow all thru stage 1 and 2. all on low/below norm.
at 3, it wilted a bit, and i reduced to very dry/very low and got norm growth out of it for the first time.
but today, after fruiting 3 times, @ every 3rd or 4th day, it sudenly started wilting and went to 'full of life'.
the settings on it seem to have changed. it is not happy at the setting it has been at.
not sure what to make of it.
bovinex