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Thread: Tuesday Tips May 24th Stopping Shot
maigy wrote:
Jediforcefighter wrote:
The jedi are not angry because we should be gods, we are angry because we are far too weak to survive the basics a jedi was supposed to be able to handle. As you can see, jedi have the lowest damage damage on most servers as well as the many bugs, and constant problems with bounty hunters trying to grief a jedi. Read the Jedi forums for once and you'll see the hundreds of bugs and flaws that have been made and keeping jedi from being able to co-op with the game. Jedi don't care if they're gods or not, if they did the same damage as the toughest professions they'd even be happier, but for the most of us, we're doing 5 times less than the strongest profession making us the weakest profession in the game, inwhich most ofthe people that have jedi earned the right to be called jedi.
you have never played a jedi in PvP if you think Jedi is the weakest profession
Jedi own non-jedi in PvP. My guild mate has a LS that is 400+ bDPS.... that is better than any weapon I have seen... how can't you say jedi dont do much damage. when I go hunting with other jedi they are consistantly out damaging me doing 1k+ per hit. On top of that they can heal faster than me, they can make weapons better than me, and they dont need armor. and I couold really careless about all that if jedi werent crying that they are too weak.
As I said the key word "most servers".And the BH on my server have 800 dps or higher while the jedi have max dps of 260 - 400. Anything sinking in? And since CU, i've been in a lot of pvp, fought over 20, lost 19, because BH don't take breaks.
Message Edited by Jediforcefighter on 06-01-2005 02:02 PM
Korpaz wrote:
EEMAN wrote:
Thunderheart it is clear by this and many other threads just how deep this jedi vs non-jedi animosity runs. The jedi OFTEN refer to non jedi as 'laymen', 'laypersons', 'mundanes', 'interactive NPC' and so on and so forth. They somehow have arrived at this sense of self entitlement that is evident in EVERYTHING they do and post. Everyhing should be given to them because they spent 6 months grinding. Wow, I have been playing this game since early beta. I have ground professions when some of these new players were still potty training. Every day I spend on average 30-60 minutes just filling out bug reports. I have been accepted to every Beta test and during those phases commited 3-4 hours a day finding and reporting bugs comming up with every way to break something I can think of. That kind of 'work' clearly is much much MUCH greater than the kind of 'work' some jedi spends playing a game and yet I have no special 'I win' button that makes these jedi fall over dead when they come within 30m of me. I dont fill the forums with page after page requesting you elevate everything specific to me and all the while bring down everyone around me.
This arguement of work involved shouldnt get even a minuscule bit of consideration. The hard grind is there to make them rare, not make them elite. It could take 2 years and they be no more powerful than a regular player and the long grind is STILL justified becaues it exists for the sole purpose of making jedi rare. Now previously I explained that better ways exist to make jedi rare, but currently this is the only one and you keep reducing this 'penalty' which makes jedi less and less rare. First there was a hard grind, an unknown way to become jedi, and permadeath. Then it was a known way to grind, permadeath and a long grind. Then its a known system and a long grind but 3 deaths within 2 weeks for permadeath to take affect. Then its a known long grind and you lose a skill box every time you die. Then its an XP loss on death and a known grind. Then its revamped so they get their own nondefendable damage type by the majority of us 'mundane' not to mention the entire PVE arena, a quest and a long grind with XP loss. Then we get a CU which brings them from 8x more powerful than any other profession in the game to just 1.5x more powerful (if you cant do the math dont bother replying). Then they removed XP loss on PVE death. Then they removed XP loss on PVP death that isnt from a bounty hunter.
They fear NOTHING and flaunt their robes and their sabers everywhere. They force meditate and channel force in cantinas. They pvp in front of starports. Now they are actively campaigning to systematically get every SINGLE special nerfed that has a chance of taking them down because 'afterall I'm a Jedi and mundanes shouldnt be able to kill me because they are just stupid mundanes'. I even had a Jedi on Chilastra named -Ultra send a email to a guildie once about how he owned the geo cave and it was his right to prevent anyone else from grinding there because SOE has elevated him to the status of GOD and GOD has decree'd that noone else is allowed in there. They pick and they pick and they chisel and they weasel every SINGLE change one at a time. They will never be happy until you finally change it to a ingame form that one submits requesting jedi and upon aproval (which is mandated all forms are automatically approved) they get to type /firstspec on their next login and just choose the boxes in jedi they would like to have. Mark my words, next they will start demanding the XP requirements of each box be lowered if they havent already.
Nearly all of the rest of us 'peons/laypeople/mundanes' are so sick of the jedi and their Holier than Thou attitude, you can almost feel the hate dripping off the walls. If you run astromech stats on the respec I bet will find an overwhelming amout of players that took up BH just because they are so sick of Jedi. They give nothing to the community, they have been made entirely self sufficent. They need no clothing. They need no weapons. They need no armor. They usually dont even need docs to heal their wounds. I and many others in my guild and on servers across all galaxy want to know one simple thing, we have one meager request:
Can you PLEASE create a galaxy cluster for us and make it a NO JEDI galaxy?!
QFE!!
X2 QFE, Amen!
monh0 wrote:
Hmmm... I don't know about the other servers but on Eclipse, Stopping Shot doesn't work most of the time, at least in PvE.
Example; I'm fighting gurks on Lok, pull with a rifle, switch to pistol at 35m. The gurk (a melee attacker) proceeds to pound the crap out of me from 35m away. After finally killing him he slides up to my feet (on his face, of course). I know that the "root" is working, all of the lag causing graphics and little icons are there, but it isn't working. It just makes the MOBs graphic stop where they were rooted, but they are still right in front of me! This is a repeatablescenario 95% of the time.
Maybe my character is bugged, but I'm not seeing all of this wonderful ability in "stopping shot".
Regarding the Jedi issue, when Jediis powerful enough tosit in the open, in groups, light sabers flashing, in the middle of a city, there is something definitely WRONG. The Jedi shouldn't be powerful enough to REQUIRE 2-3 BH's to take them down. A CL80 versus CL80 anything should be an EVEN match. I warned a Paddy about being on the BH terms, his reply " let them come, I just killed 3 of them today", this was a Paddy, not Master! and that was before the "get out of DB free card (the DB timers)"
I remember a time before Jedi were added (hell before there were mounts), life was a whole lot more peaceful!!!
A) Has this been resolved at all?
B) I remember that game. It was way better then the current game. They had to mess with it. I remember cities use to have content. PVP. Private areas in the game where you could wage war. I remember battlefields that brief snippet in time. I remember the game. I also remember some bad parts but it was way better then this cu game. Instead of listening to the crybabies the dev's should you know listen to the correspondents they hand pick. The good players. Take those 10 ideas and just for once impliment oh.. 2 each profession. Try that just once. Just 1 time. Maybe it would be a popular game people play. You know like how they do it in other games. Oh and deleting replies to a thread like this? How childish. Posts that do not violate TOS should be left alone.